You know how the press and rival fans (and many of our own fans actually) say that Rooney hasn't fulfilled his early promise, well he's 100% certain to become our all time leading goal scorer (barring injury) and has a chance to become England's all time leading goal scorer. He also has an outside chance of becoming the Premierships all time leading goal scorer (although that will be hard) and thats from a striker that hardly ever plays as an 'out and out' striker!.
He's also had more career assists than most top strikers get in their entire careers.
It makes you wonder what peoples expectations actually were of Rooney when he first burst onto the scene.
Well thats not Rooneys fault and he's been one of the best players in the world at various points in his career (even the press and pundits have said that).A lot were probably expecting him to be the very best in the world.
Cementing his all-time status and inching towards some real legends of the game in terms of sheer numbers :
Premier League goals :
Alan Shearer : 260
Andy Cole : 187
Wayne Rooney : 181
Thierry Henry : 174
Frank Lampard : 165
Premier League assists :
Ryan Giggs : 131
Steven Gerrard : 100
Frank Lampard : 96
Wayne Rooney : 93
Francesc Fabregas : 83
Premier League most goals for one club :
Thierry Henry : 175
Wayne Rooney : 166
Frank Lampard : 147
Select European elite clubs' highest goalscorers :
Juventus : Alessandro del Piero (290 goals)
Roma : Francesco Totti (287 goals)
Internazionale : Giuseppe Meazza (285 goals)
AC Milan : Gunnar Nordahl (221 goals)
Barcelona : Lionel Messi (377 goals)
Real Madrid : Raul Gonzalez (323 goals)
Atletico Madrid : Adrian Escuerdo (150 goals)
Bayern Munich : Gerd Muller (556 goals)
Ajax : Piet Van Reenen (273 goals)
Liverpool : Ian Rush (346 goals)
Manchester United : Bobby Charlton (249 goals)
Arsenal : Thierry Henry (228 goals)
Chelsea : Frank Lampard (211 goals)
Wayne Rooney : 224 goals.
Will probably end up with 300+ goals and 125+ assists for Manchester United if not more.
Premier League assists :
Ryan Giggs : 131
Yup, fantastic numbers.Will probably end up with 300+ goals and 125+ assists for Manchester United if not more.
As he's so damn old, a lot is missing for Giggsy, didn't track assists for pretty much all of 90s. I did though.
By my count, he's on 195 PL assists. Have Rooney on 99. (guess the difference between me and some sites is how we see what an assist is, I do count fouls that lead to direct free kick goal as one, some sites do too, some do not)
They both have a buttload, that's certain.
Cole had a load of assists as well as his goals that goes unmentioned most of the time. Would be interesting to see a goals+assists all-time chart for the Premier League. Rooney, Giggs, Henry would be top I imagine.
Rooney's numbers are great and the incredible thing is they would be even better than they are if he was not constantly being moved from position to position for the benefit of the team in order to accommodate other attacking players and to give the team balance. While United have no doubt benefitted from it, Rooney on an individual level has suffered to a certain extent as a result of his versatility and selflessness. His goals per game record would be even more impressive and he would have perhaps won a top scorer award or two if he was played more regularly as the main striker with the team geared around setting him up and creating chances for him as well as having other players doing the hard work for him and allowing him to focus only on scoring and making the difference in the final third. No matter where he is played he will always put a shift in and contribute defensively and when he is used up front or on the wing and United's midfield is getting overran or under pressure he can drop deep or move inside and help them reclaim control of the game. He is an excellent player and world class on his day and he has been very underrated in recent years.Cementing his all-time status and inching towards some real legends of the game in terms of sheer numbers :
Premier League goals :
Alan Shearer : 260
Andy Cole : 187
Wayne Rooney : 181
Thierry Henry : 174
Frank Lampard : 165
Premier League assists :
Ryan Giggs : 131
Steven Gerrard : 100
Frank Lampard : 96
Wayne Rooney : 93
Francesc Fabregas : 83
Premier League most goals for one club :
Thierry Henry : 175
Wayne Rooney : 166
Frank Lampard : 147
Select European elite clubs' highest goalscorers :
Juventus : Alessandro del Piero (290 goals)
Roma : Francesco Totti (287 goals)
Internazionale : Giuseppe Meazza (285 goals)
AC Milan : Gunnar Nordahl (221 goals)
Barcelona : Lionel Messi (377 goals)
Real Madrid : Raul Gonzalez (323 goals)
Atletico Madrid : Adrian Escuerdo (150 goals)
Bayern Munich : Gerd Muller (556 goals)
Ajax : Piet Van Reenen (273 goals)
Liverpool : Ian Rush (346 goals)
Manchester United : Bobby Charlton (249 goals)
Arsenal : Thierry Henry (228 goals)
Chelsea : Frank Lampard (211 goals)
Wayne Rooney : 224 goals.
Will probably end up with 300+ goals and 125+ assists for Manchester United if not more.
I thought there was a lot of potential for problems there but I underestimated Rooney's willingness to adapt. Perhaps his perspective has changed so I suppose mine can as well. I can't argue his commitment to the team at this point and he seems to be a dutiful captain and key to our success. In other words, the time is ripe for another prostitute scandal.
I don't really get this. He's shown he's adaptable throughout his entire United career.
Using this website ( http://www.premiersoccerstats.com/Records.cfm?DOrderby=Ass ) which obviously isn't official since I don't think Opta tracked things like assists prior to 2003 but it looks fairly accurate, I got the top 5 goals + assists asSince he was so far out in front goals wise, Shearer would probably make it into the top 3.
Making him captain, also seems to be helping.The difference I think is that Fergie shuffled him around in key matches taking a defensive approach and made Rooney man mark people in midfield. Team man or not, that's a bit insulting for anyone with Rooney's qualities. You never see Lampard or Totti asked to mark the opposition.
Gerd Muller's statsCementing his all-time status and inching towards some real legends of the game in terms of sheer numbers :
Premier League goals :
Alan Shearer : 260
Andy Cole : 187
Wayne Rooney : 181
Thierry Henry : 174
Frank Lampard : 165
Premier League assists :
Ryan Giggs : 131
Steven Gerrard : 100
Frank Lampard : 96
Wayne Rooney : 93
Francesc Fabregas : 83
Premier League most goals for one club :
Thierry Henry : 175
Wayne Rooney : 166
Frank Lampard : 147
Select European elite clubs' highest goalscorers :
Juventus : Alessandro del Piero (290 goals)
Roma : Francesco Totti (287 goals)
Internazionale : Giuseppe Meazza (285 goals)
AC Milan : Gunnar Nordahl (221 goals)
Barcelona : Lionel Messi (377 goals)
Real Madrid : Raul Gonzalez (323 goals)
Atletico Madrid : Adrian Escuerdo (150 goals)
Bayern Munich : Gerd Muller (556 goals)
Ajax : Piet Van Reenen (273 goals)
Liverpool : Ian Rush (346 goals)
Manchester United : Bobby Charlton (249 goals)
Arsenal : Thierry Henry (228 goals)
Chelsea : Frank Lampard (211 goals)
Wayne Rooney : 224 goals.
Will probably end up with 300+ goals and 125+ assists for Manchester United if not more.
Unsurprising given our fixture congestion in the next week and a half. Impossible to play every 90mins at 100%. Need to keep something in reserve.I thought he, like most of the team, switched off after the third goal today. His passing got sloppy, and he was slow on the 50/50s.
Still, brilliant runs for the two goals, and when he was fully focused, put in a great performance.
Who comes closest to mind is probably Muller, can play striker, second striker, no 10, on the wings, hasnt he played in midfield yet? @BaluUnsurprising given our fixture congestion in the next week and a half. Impossible to play every 90mins at 100%. Need to keep something in reserve.
Rooney was excellent yesterday. Leading by example. A real captain's performance. One of my issues with him in midfield in seasons past was that he seemed to feel some obligation to play 60 yard hollywood balls across the pitch almost every time he got the ball (even when it wasn't on). He seems to have cut that down a lot and the ball to RvP for the goal was lovely.
I agree with the poster who said there isn't another player who can play so many different positions to such a high standard. No wonder LvG loves his versatility.
Rooney's numbers are great and the incredible thing is they would be even better than they are if he was not constantly being moved from position to position for the benefit of the team in order to accommodate other attacking players and to give the team balance. While United have no doubt benefitted from it, Rooney on an individual level has suffered to a certain extent as a result of his versatility and selflessness.
Wayne Rooney's biggest asset is his ability to adapt. He's one of the best strikers out there but always adjusts for the better of the team. How many forwards would sacrifice their position for the benefit of the team for as long as Rooney?