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Suppose it's a tough one. He'd have a lot of competition, although England in recent times haven't had a striker who went down as good as the very best of all-time like Pele, Ronaldo etc. In recent times alone, he'd be up against Cole, Fowler, Owen and Shearer for example. Going further back he'd have competition in the likes of Lineker and Hurst, and then some would even go further back to someone like Dixie Dean. So he could arguably get into a team like that, although it wouldn't be easy for him at all.

Going only by players i've seen play for England, i'd go with something like:

---------------Seaman-----------

Neville---Adams---Ferdinand-----Cole

----------------Robson----------------

------Gerrard-----------Gascoigne----

---------------Rooney-------------

-------Shearer----------Lineker
 
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I'd like to think in an England's greatest it wouldn't just be Rooney trying to make something happen and instead he'd be able to focus more on actually being a striker rather than a playmaker, so for that reason I'd put him in. If I'm being honest when I watch England there are only two players I actually see who I think could make something happen for themselves or others and that's Rooney and Sterling.

The funny thing is PES 2015 has him as a "Creative Playmaker"

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It was a good performance from Rooney against Slovenia. This should prove that he's much better in the final third than he is deeper into midfield. Even if it was a garbage Slovenia team, he combined well with his teammates, made some very good runs, and, overall, looked dangerous in the final third.

I hope he doesn't play in central midfield again. I'd love it if he plays in the final third partnering a striker.
 
Going only by players i've seen play for England, i'd go with something like:

---------------Seaman-----------

Neville---Adams---Ferdinand-----Cole

----------------Robson----------------

------Gerrard-----------Gascoigne----

---------------Rooney-------------

-------Shearer----------Lineker
That's a fecking good side to be fair
 
Going only by players i've seen play for England, i'd go with something like:

---------------Seaman-----------

Neville---Adams---Ferdinand-----Cole

----------------Robson----------------

------Gerrard-----------Gascoigne----

---------------Rooney-------------

-------Shearer----------Lineker

For me, Owen has to be there. He's probably been England's best player from 98-05.
 
For me, Owen has to be there. He's probably been England's best player from 98-05.
England's best and most influential player was Beckham, with and thanks to him at least they reached the quarters at the WC .. whereas nowadays ...

Owen was alright, too ...
 
Alex Netherton and Andi Thomas got stuck right into Rooney in The Daily Mirror. Just some of the gems:

And yet he is first choice, for club and country, with the consensus being that he is a very good player. He is not. He is not even, right now, very good at scoring, his saving grace.

Might him playing as deep as an out and out midfielder in quite a few games this season have something to do with his reduced scoring rate? And indeed, is his rate actually much lower than his career average?

And that has come with another move. He announced that he was now a number 10, and would be ‘more intelligent’ with his running, meaning he would be covering less ground (remember, his workrate was perhaps his saving grace as his talents left him). He did this at a time that Radamel Falcao had joined and after Robin van Persie had scored that ridiculous goal against Spain for Louis van Gaal’s Holland.

A cynic would say he had identified he was no longer the main man, and correctly identified that Juan Mata was the most vulnerable. Duly, he began to occupy the number 10 role, and has so far largely been a disaster.

What's the implication here? That Rooney gets to choose where he plays? If so, I would guess that's utter nonsense. It's true he's played deeper this season, but at LvG's behest, rather than his own. LvG is on record as saying he thinks Rooney is multi-talented and that those talents are best utilized in a withdrawn role. Also, that he's been a 'disaster' is sheer hyperbole. He's usually been one of our better outfield players, as even some of his critics concede.

When he was sent off against West Ham, it started an undefeated streak for Manchester United. A cynic would note that, upon his return, they lost to a misfiring City.

A cynic might say that. But so would an agenda driven idiot. Like playing at home to Everton, away to West Brom, and home to Chelsea is equivalent to playing away to the current league Champions with ten men.

But because England are England, and critical faculties are not our strong point, he remains captain and focal point of the national side.

This is the 'Rooney as Ali Dia' argument. That he's some sort of conman supreme, pulling the wool over the eyes of successive managers who've picked him, convincing them he's a really good player when he's actually not. Fergie, Hodgson, Moyes, LvG, Capello. All have fallen for it.

He said last week that he could not be regarded as a true legend until he won something with England. That is not the reason. It is because he realised too late what it requires to be one, and once again he has shifted his perception of reality to avoid facing the truth. Sven-Goran Eriksson, when he left the England job, begged the nation not to "kill" Wayne Rooney, and England didn't. Instead, we got a slow suicide.

Won and scored the penalty to equalize in his last England game. Scored the winner in the one before that. Makes key contributions at vital times. But he's still as good as dead.
 
2 goals and from the bits Ive seen, looks a good performance

On target to be england and utds record goalscorer captaining both.

Not bad I guess
 
Two very nice finishes tonight, I really hope we start playing him nearer to goal, and stop all this playing him in midfield to accommodate Fellaini nonsense.
 
He's probably going to do something moronic on Saturday just to prove me wrong but the sending off seems to have changed his approach to captaincy. There has been a lot less of the cliché captain who just happens to be the loudest shouter on the pitch and more leading by example.
 
Seems to be getting right back into form now. Hopefully we actually play him as a striker this weekend.
 
Can we not play him in central midfield? Thanks van Gaal.
 
I'm not pleased when I don't see him anywhere near the opposition's box. There's a reason he's chasing down these records, because scoring goals is something he's really good at. More than that you can see how passionate he is when he does so. Don't know why managers think playing him deep is the best use of him. His instincts are for creating chances and dispatching them.

He's starting to look sharper at just the right time for us, and more mature as well. He's had a good international break and is coming back to us in good fitness. Now we need to unshackle him from midfield so he can produce the performances he's capable of.
 
Two very nice finishes tonight, I really hope we start playing him nearer to goal, and stop all this playing him in midfield to accommodate Fellaini nonsense.

Ya if we eventually sort out our defense enough to play the diamond with him up front with Falcao it could be frightening.
 
Ya if we eventually sort out our defense enough to play the diamond with him up front with Falcao it could be frightening.

Yet Van Gaal seemingly doesn't rate him as a striker :(

I would fooking love to see something like this one day...

-----Rooney ----- Falcao-----
------------Mata-------------
Di Maria---------------Herrera
----------Blind/Carrick----------
------Whoever's not injured-----
------------De Gea------------
 
Ya if we eventually sort out our defense enough to play the diamond with him up front with Falcao it could be frightening.
And drop van Persie? Mwhahaha.
 
Two very nice finishes tonight, I really hope we start playing him nearer to goal, and stop all this playing him in midfield to accommodate Fellaini nonsense.

Maybe if De Gea becomes better as centerback, we can move Fellaini to fullback, and play Rooney as a striker.
 
He was very good tonight and.......*prepares to be stoned*....I wish our forwards interchanged as fluidly as England's have in the last 2 games, popping up all over the front line.
 
He was very good tonight and.......*prepares to be stoned*....I wish our forwards interchanged as fluidly as England's have in the last 2 games, popping up all over the front line.
Van Gaal out, Hodgson in!

I agree with you though, although to be fair England haven't exactly been against the best teams in the world.
 
Two very nice finishes tonight, I really hope we start playing him nearer to goal, and stop all this playing him in midfield to accommodate Fellaini nonsense.

That's not for Fellaini's benefit.

Good performance from Rooney tonight. In the second half he really showed what you want (and we haven't been getting) from a lone striker.
 
Hard to believe a lot of England fans wanted Wazza dropped for the WC when you look at what he's achieved for both club and country!
 
Van Gaal out, Hodgson in!

I agree with you though, although to be fair England haven't exactly been against the best teams in the world.

:lol:

Neither have we though, I mean our lack of creative variety against the likes of Crystal Palace and West Brom was very disappointing.
 
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