Don't say that too loud, you're going to get lambasted!Rooney upfront is like the Return of The King too.
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great post
I'm starting to go the other way and think that if Hernandez is staying, we should loan Welbeck out for a year where he can be the main man and get a year of experience leading an attack and hopefully improving his finishing.
Welbeck is past the age of loan now. Especially after being around with senior squad for so long and already doing loan spells. He has to improve his finishing here only.
Had Rooney been the scoring focal point for the majority of his career, I'd maybe put just a little less significance into the goal record accomplishment, but I'd also be splitting hairs. Also, It's kind of a pretty important milestone at a club of this standing and pedigree, considering the players that have played for us over the years.
You can't have a serious conversation about Rooney and at the same time ignore, gloss over, or just play down the effort and consistent production that he's turned out, year after year. The fact that Rooney's on the cusp of becoming our all time goal scorer having played as many if not more games shunted about the pitch, in order to fulfill a role, is pretty significant.
That statement right there is complete nonsense and utter fabrication. If he was any one of those things, he'd have been shown the door, just as any number of other great players here have once they started to not produce, or just like any other number who felt they didn't have to put in the effort. There's are reasons Fergie kept him here, twice, in spite of the ease it would have took to unload him. Reasons that are the exact opposite of the nonsense you spouted in that post.
It isn't some blind favouritism that's somehow allowed him to keep his place here for as long as he has. He didn't pull the wool over Fergie and the clubs eyes, or perform some voodoo trance that tricked them into letting him be here this long. He's earned it, every bit as much as any other footballer who played here for a decade had.
He didn't turn out to be the great white savior as some had expected, but he's turn out to be a pretty exceptional footballer nonetheless.
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You've seen first hand, have you?
You only have to look at the guy for 10 seconds to see it.
He looks better this off-season than he's been for a while, in fairness.
Fergie isn't stupid. After Ronaldo left, Rooney was the top talent at the club. You don't just sell that kind of player cos he's a bit annoying. No one is saying Rooney is talentless, he's a very good footballer - he could just be better.
Van Gaal on Rooney - "Rooney can play at No 10 and No 9 and he tells me he can also play at No 11 and No 7, but I prefer him at 9 or 10."
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
Van Gaal on Rooney - "Rooney can play at No 10 and No 9 and he tells me he can also play at No 11 and No 7, but I prefer him at 9 or 10."
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
To be fair it is the natural position when a scouser talks, assume he is bullshittingVan Gaal on Rooney - "Rooney can play at No 10 and No 9 and he tells me he can also play at No 11 and No 7, but I prefer him at 9 or 10."
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
Man Utd 0:0 Inter
Just a bit of a random bump, but was anybody else really pleased with how sharp and quick Rooney looked last night? Particularly the first 30 minutes, he looked completely revitalised.
Good signs for sure, I feel he's gonna have a massive season. Having a strict but fair manager like Van Gaal and being surrounded by creative providers like Mata and Herrera will no doubt help him out too. He still has decent acceleration, hope he uses it more this season.
He's been playing really well in pre-season. He's always gonna have the odd heavy touch (as well as the odd sensational one) but he makes us tick and has done for years. Such an intelligent footballer. Will hopefully be a sponge for all the great coaching he'll get from Van Gaal.
Yeah, he had some really nice touches on the ball and had a good touch. Didn't really get a goalscoring chance but he's looked really good all pre season. Looking forward to him this season.
Loved his first against Roma, he's pretty much facing the sideline but gets his foot right round it.
He looks confident, rejuvanated....that's real good news for us.
He looks confident, rejuvanated....that's real good news for us.
His end product is back to his best, but he is still relatively average with his all around play(haven't watched the Inter game yet), but his fans are in full force due to his goals/assist in friendly games same as his haters were in full force few months before, same old stuff with Rooney, he is either great(which he is not), or shit(which he is not either). It will be interesting to see how will he perform this season under van Gaal.
I can't agree with this. He has the goals/assists thus far, as he always does - year in year out - but his build up play and passing has looked far better than it was last year.
I agree. Apparently he's looked really sharp in training, which is obviously showing in his game. Long may it continue.
His overall play has improved. He looked a little sloppy against Galaxy but that's understandable but his first touch/short passing is showing improvements from his past two seasons.
Van Gaal will look to work on that with him especially since we'll be focusing a lot more on short passing and movement in our style of play.
Van Gaal will look to work on that with him especially since we'll be focusing a lot more on short passing and movement in our style of play.
He's looking good. My concern is that, if he has a relatively long injury layoff, whether we'll continue to adopt the 'play Rooney into form' approach. That Rooney, who was still productive in the previous system, will probably be anti to the philosophy and if he's not going to play then how will he return to form.
He did play as something of a winger during Ronnie's last two years, I suppose. But he was also not approaching 30 back then.Van Gaal on Rooney - "Rooney can play at No 10 and No 9 and he tells me he can also play at No 11 and No 7, but I prefer him at 9 or 10."
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
He might as well have said that he can play in midfield
But then again, there is no 11 or 7 in our current system, Rooney just wants to let LvG know just how versatile an asset he is...
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Van Gaal on Rooney - "Rooney can play at No 10 and No 9 and he tells me he can also play at No 11 and No 7, but I prefer him at 9 or 10."
Makes it sound like Van Gaal doesn't believe Wayne when he says that
Van Gaal really seems to only consider pace-y players as options out wide and Rooney isn't fast anymore.
Rooney seems to be hitting those penalties with such venom this pre season. I know Rooney did not take a penalty, but all the penalty takers put on a masterclass penalty clinic against Inter.
Not really. He isn't lightning quick as he was in his teens but he's still one of our faster players. He's not quick but is pacey when he gets going.
Yeah he played on the left of a front 3, not sure if that counts as 11 though.
Love the commitment to post the comment anyway
Wayne's still quick off the mark. He'll never smoke anyone like Giggsy or Ronaldo could, but he's crafty enough and fast enough over short distances to make up for not having a high top speed. With that said I still agree with Van Gaal, Rooney should only be played as a striker or number 10 right.
Scholes on Rooney:
On the captaincy:
On the 'Rooney might be past his best' brouhaha from this summer:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...ie-scholes-30473246.html#sthash.CsvH4gos.dpuf
On the captaincy:
On the 'Rooney might be past his best' brouhaha from this summer:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...ie-scholes-30473246.html#sthash.CsvH4gos.dpuf
His build up play was decent for first half of last season too, especially if you consider how shit we were as a team at that time, but in second half of the season his build up play was mostly really poor, so it's unfair to compare these few games with that spell because that was period of probably his worst form in years in terms of all-around play. I would he is playing at the moment at about same level he played three years ago, excellent end product but without it you would hardly say he is top player who stands out in this team. We had few better performers than him even in this preseason.
I hope he stays fit for a significant period, with Wayne it's getting back in the groove after a long lay off that really fecks his performance levels . I feel we are going to need him, Robin and Mata at their best this season.
If he continues like he did against Inter I think all will be very pleased indeed. Let's just hope he doesn't end up picking up niggly little injuries to curtail his season.
How lucky are we that Spain, England, and Japan were all really shit at the World Cup. Rooney, Shaw, Welbeck, Jones, Smalling, Mata, De Gea, and Kagawa all got knocked out in the group stages, and so got to join up with United early and get a full pre-season to understand and get used to the new system. The only key player that got an extended holiday was Van Persie, and he already knows it.
I'm especially happy for Rooney. The last time he got a full pre-season under his belt, he went on to score 34 goals. That level of production would be most welcome this time around.
I'm especially happy for Rooney. The last time he got a full pre-season under his belt, he went on to score 34 goals. That level of production would be most welcome this time around.
Man Utd 3:1 Real Madrid
Early days yet, but the doom laden predictions of Rooney crashing and burning under Van Gaal don't seem very realistic at the moment. He's looking every bit as capable as any other of our players of playing a quick, technical short passing game. And indeed, is thriving on it.
What's been noticeable for me about Rooney under Van Gaal is that his intelligence is coming to the fore: an ability to play clever, incisive passes that others may not spot; to make the right runs at the right time; and to generally perform as part of a unit.
Then of course, you have the typical Rooney trait of being able to twat one into the top corner from 25 yards.
Hope i'm not jinxing anything, but rumours of his demise are looking greatly exaggerated.
What's been noticeable for me about Rooney under Van Gaal is that his intelligence is coming to the fore: an ability to play clever, incisive passes that others may not spot; to make the right runs at the right time; and to generally perform as part of a unit.
Then of course, you have the typical Rooney trait of being able to twat one into the top corner from 25 yards.
Hope i'm not jinxing anything, but rumours of his demise are looking greatly exaggerated.
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I think a lot of the rumours were more agenda driven than anything else. Logically speaking, a player as good and versatile as Rooney is always more than likely to be capable of playing under a world class manager.
Much prefer him leading the line where his ability to drop off is a bonus part of his game rather than it being the primary part of his role. Only issue with him and RVP for me is at the moment I think we'll lack pace/someone who can carry the ball, if we can get past that though then in those two we've got a great ability to be very clinical with our chances.
This will be his best season. Return of the white Pele.
Most of it was blatantly agenda driven. As it is, Rooney has looked consistently one of our better players, and is linking up well with Mata especially. So the thread is strangely quiet.
If he'd been playing badly, or even averagely, there'd probably be 10-20 new posts a day of people screaming that we should bin him off.
A day? In an hour, sir!
I expected him doing really well, and he's doing exactly that. There are some heartbroken Cafe members, but they'll live.
I expected him doing really well, and he's doing exactly that. There are some heartbroken Cafe members, but they'll live.
Hope so. This season isn't just about our teams and new managers performance, our world class player cable of winning matches on their own have to step up the game more than they have before, do it for the badge, club and fans.
As one of his steadfast supporters over the years on here I look forward to a season of gloating.
Well and truly jinxed him now
Well and truly jinxed him now
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