Rooney, ADM and Wilson were brilliant on the counter against Arsenal. We really showed that day what we can do with some pace.
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The fans that go to OT are some of the best in the world, the fans on here are arguably some of the worst in the world.
So the fans here are the worst in the world for voicing opinions that have actual truth to them? The same fans who would go to OT if they had the chance and cheer despite what they might say here? Don't be stupid.
Yet it's a fantastic forum.
"Every single one of us will stand by David Moyes" - remember that one?
Herd mentality.
What I find ironic is that the media made a huge push that Rooney needs to leave Everton to join United or Arsenal because it would benefit the national team. That worked out well aye.Rooney's international career is comical to me.
Name even one top class memorable performance from him for England since his goals at Euro 04
At WC 06 he got sent off for stamping, he failed to help England even qualify for Euro 08, at WC 10 his touch and passing was abysmal even at walking pace, couldn't tell you anything about euro 12 and in Brazil last year he did nothing of importance that I can recall - didn't England lose 2 out of 3 matches?
And yet, he's going to be their highest scorer of all time soon and will be celebrated as a great
On Rooney though. He seems to be highly spoken of by his fellow pro's and managers. People love to dish out the Scholes quotes but I bet you could find similar ones for Rooney by some of the games greats. You will miss him when he is gone that is for sure.
Nothing wrong with supporting the manager while he's still at the club. As it should be.
I think he'll retire in this club.
Of course he will. 300k a week till he's 34 and past it. Who would touch that?
400k. Bound for a pay rise.
He'll be starting even if he's 35.
I believe that most people here believe that Rooney is our best player and he is and will always remain a legend.
However, most people don't want to repeat this all the time, while the haters spew their vitriol constantly, even when there is no news. This gives the wrong impression but the truth is that they are a tiny minority.
I don't hate Rooney but there's no way he's our best player and I don't see how anyone could think that, let alone the majority. I mean De Gea has been better than him for three years in a row now, and not just slightly better, hugely better.
When thinking about Rooney our fans still have the image of a 25 year old Rooney and fail to see that the current Rooney doesn't even come close to any of the top players around the world. Even from our squad we have a few players that are better than Rooney. He did compare to the best 5 years ago but presently his overall game has declined too much. Sir Alex did predict Rooney won't age well and I suspect he would have sold him if Sir Alex remained manager.
I can't understand how so many can continue backing him and leave him free from criticism after games were he does nothing at all to help our cause while pointing fingers at Mata, Blind or any other player.
I can't understand how so many can continue backing him and leave him free from criticism after games were he does nothing at all to help our cause while pointing fingers at Mata, Blind or any other player.
Even Messi and Ronaldo would struggle to score goals in this current United team.
We just don't create enough chances for the strikers. For me it's been a combination of our midfield players being woefully shite in doing anything other than keeping possession and LVG's horrifically negative tactics.
Until we start playing free flowing attacking football ANY forward is going to suffer.
We just don't create enough chances for the strikers. For me it's been a combination of our midfield players being woefully shite in doing anything other than keeping possession and LVG's horrifically negative tactics.
Until we start playing free flowing attacking football ANY forward is going to suffer.
When LVG said we have the best fans in the world he wasn't referring to the numpties on here.
What about the fans on this forum that go to OT?
Shouldn't you be perpetuating the Messi Ronaldo, or some equally shit thread, with your 'analysis'? This forum can be good but certainly not due to the likes of you and your inane ramblings relating to the same old exhausted topics.
It's a bizarre statement, they arent judging players during the matches, they're signing out loud, and then those fans too after the match, or in the pubs etc discuss about certain things and criticise too. You cant compare these 2 sets of fans, because being United supporter while a game's on, isnt the same as being a United supporters who's discussing.
You sound like you're on your periods. No one cares about your pointless ranting and raving. If you don't like this place then don't post. None here will be missing out that's for sure.
It does tend to lead to erratic behaviour
Get a life!
It does tend to lead to erratic behaviour
You should get out of your house, and try and get laid tonight. It will do you the world of good and I'm sure the internet can cope without hearing your opinion on Messi Ronaldo for the 10000000th time.
Not sure what you're on about, mate. The reassuring thing is I think neither are you.
Back to that Rooney guy, eh?
Let's not let anger issues mess another thread up and divert it to nowhere?
Anyways, think Rooney should do well next season. He's lost a bit of brilliance but is clearly having a good effect on the dressing room so I'm expecting good things. The move to him further forward and less involved in the buildup is a very good one.
Let's not let anger issues mess another thread up and divert it to nowhere?
Anyways, think Rooney should do well next season. He's lost a bit of brilliance but is clearly having a good effect on the dressing room so I'm expecting good things. The move to him further forward and less involved in the buildup is a very good one.
It doesn't work that way. A forward has to create space, have a good touch and make intelligent runs so that he opens up opportunities to receive the ball in good positions. Chances can't be created if those 3 attributes are missing and Rooney was lacking in all 3 this season.
Did Liverpool's playmakers suddenly turn to shit? Did Mata suddenly become bad at creating chances after being only 2nd to David Silva in chances created from open play before joining us?
Rooney was never a 20 goal a season striker and he will never be. He only managed that tally twice in his career whilst when we brought an in form RVP in his first season managed over 30 goals.
The striker is the biggest part of the equation and you can look at any team for these kind of examples like Chelsea and Diego Costa from struggling to score goals, going to scoring goals for fun when he was fit for the first half of the season and then going back to struggling when he got injured.
He almost hits 20 every season despite not always playing right up top, though? Not a stretch to think he could a few more.
I agree that he isn't as good a striker as Costa/aguero and isn't likely to have a 35 goal season, but he's definitely a 20 goal a season striker.
Or did you mean only league?
Take your fake laughing smileys elsewhere, saddo. They're bringing irrelevance to another thread.I'm sure you don't!
Yes, league. I failed to make it very clear but I'm mostly annoyed by those 5 world class performances Rooney has in recent seasons. Why can't he do that every week? He goes from doing everything perfectly in one game to failing to control the simplest of touches the following week. I think this is why his league goal tally struggles. He is getting less consistent. The Rooney in those 5 games a season in which he shows up and the Rooney in the rest of the games are like totally different players.
To be honest, I expected more as well but I'm past expecting him to perform like a world beater week in week out. It hasn't looked like happening for a while now. If he can be a regular goalscorer for us who gives us composure in front of goal and maturity as a senior player, then I'm happy with him. I do have doubts about his general play and would ideally like us bring someone in to rotate with him, someone who has more technical class and raw impact on games, but I'm not sure we will.
But overall, given this team has spent a season learning lvg's ways, like others, I think we will see a better Rooney next season.
I think managing that Tally twice (in the only 2 seasons where played upfront as the main man) makes him a 20 goal a season striker, Rooney was only a few goals behind Shearer's EPL record.
The only thing i agree with you on is his first touch, which is bad but not as bad as people make it out to be, it seems like the go-to Rooney criticism when all else fails.
Forums very rarely mirror the mentality of the game going fans.
On this forum you have threads about Fergie and Rooney and their mistakes and declines. Incredible stuff.
What does rating Rooney have to do with fans in the stadium? I don't rate him highly but when I am at OT and the crowd sings his name, I join in. Same with the Ronaldo song (well in contrast to Rooney I do rate Ronaldo very highly) but I would rather prefer frequent songs about current players, still I join in in stuff which creates good atmosphere. That doesn't mean that later in the pub or whereever ppl don't get annoyed with the same players' performances or don't discuss them.
Wow this thread is moving in a tiresome direction.I'm sure you don't!
I support Man Utd. I want us to win every game and I do not care which individual scores once we win. This, however, does not mean I have to follow the crowd. It is human nature to convince oneself that one's own beliefs are correct and others must be wrong. My country is the greatest on earth, my race, my religion, my gender is superior to others who are different. Heck some even thought that their planet, Earth, had to be the most important thing in the universe and even the Sun revolved around it.
Therefore I am not surprised that the English public and especially most Utd fans bought into the feeling that Rooney is one of the greatest footballers in the world and a Utd legend. He is ours so he must be the best. This kind of thinking makes him highly marketable and thus his weaknesses are overlooked and the "intangibles" come into play, work rate, intelligence, leadership by example etc. His records are a façade. As I have said before any very good player consistently playing as an attacker for Utd and England would have as many goals as him. If some of the legends of English football played the number of qualifying matches that he has I am sure they would have more goals eg Charlton and Linneker and they actually performed well in the big international tournaments.
I undertand why most look at him with such awe but I am sorry I just see an above-average footballer with limited technical skill.
Therefore I am not surprised that the English public and especially most Utd fans bought into the feeling that Rooney is one of the greatest footballers in the world and a Utd legend. He is ours so he must be the best. This kind of thinking makes him highly marketable and thus his weaknesses are overlooked and the "intangibles" come into play, work rate, intelligence, leadership by example etc. His records are a façade. As I have said before any very good player consistently playing as an attacker for Utd and England would have as many goals as him. If some of the legends of English football played the number of qualifying matches that he has I am sure they would have more goals eg Charlton and Linneker and they actually performed well in the big international tournaments.
I undertand why most look at him with such awe but I am sorry I just see an above-average footballer with limited technical skill.
Two points.
One, the Internet is a place where every one has a voice and the ability to make it visible hence you'll always get stronger opinions and a greater volume of them, which leads to a large number of extreme ones. It's just the nature of the Internet and as much a reflection of the medium really.
Second, the stadium is meant for supporting. An Internet forum is meant for discussing. It's two completely different things. I wouldn't expect people at a stadium watching a game to be daicussing Wayne Rooney's decline over 5 years, or sir Alex's transfer success in recent times. I would totally expect it on the Internet. That's what this place is for.
Also, while I disagree with extreme views, why exactly wouldn't there be discussion on those two topics on a DISCUSSION forum? Unless you prefer this place being like RAWK where some things are bizarrely off limit.
Yeah I don't get the correlation either. I mean sure the Internet gets you a bigger array of strongly put opinions and hence you get loads of weird ones, but it's what you do on the Internet - discuss things to the bare bones.
On top of that he also made Nani cry and made him leave United
He will never live that down.
I honestly think Rooney runs Manchester United from behind the screen.
Glazers and managers are just his puppets on the string who this brilliant, yet evil, mastermind plays as it wants.
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