If the City players had challenged for the ball Rashford would have been forced to interfere with play to protect the ball. But they stayed back. I think the call was the right one.
Was Rashford interfering with play?
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Don't think so. He didn't touch the ball, Akanji was never catching that ball regardless of Marcus' involvement at the pace he was running at and he was nowhere near Walker to influence him.
I would be filthy if that was scored against us....which makes it all the sweeter on this occasion (definitely offside though).
Yeah, it was a case of City's defenders being lazy and too smart for their own good. I'd still be fuming if it went against us, but it's a self-inflicted problem.
Didn't City win the league thanks to the offside rule being stupid against Villa a couple of seasons ago?
The thing is, I actually don't see what Rashford being there does - neither defender beat Bruno to the ball (who was onside), Rashford was clearly leaving the ball and never shaped to shoot, so unless you're automatically interfering with play by being on the pitch (which clearly isn't the rule) then there's no infraction.
The thing is, I actually don't see what Rashford being there does - neither defender beat Bruno to the ball (who was onside), Rashford was clearly leaving the ball and never shaped to shoot, so unless you're automatically interfering with play by being on the pitch (which clearly isn't the rule) then there's no infraction.
Looked at this 20 times. He didn't impede any defender. He didn't touch it. Ederson was slow off his line. Bruno was likely always getting a touch on it before any citeh player did. Red tinted glasses on i'd call the refs bent and say it's typical anti-United. Red tinted glasses off and on truth serum if that happened to us i'd say it was the right decision.
Put it this way: if Rashford running in like that didn't impact the thinking, movement or positioning of Ederson and the defenders, they're braindead.
How that squares with the rules, I'm not sure.
How that squares with the rules, I'm not sure.
No. It’s a nuanced rule I’ll grant you that, but Rashford did not interfere with play.
What? Which city player would have cleared it?!
If the goal is for you, then it's fine. If against you, it's offside. It's a grey area, but I think the benefit of doubt should go to the attacking team.
It's not Bruno's fault that the City backline switched off. He was switched on, saw the situation developing and buried it. He deserved the luck.
It's not Bruno's fault that the City backline switched off. He was switched on, saw the situation developing and buried it. He deserved the luck.
Shut up Owen you fecking idiot.
This.
It was a goal according to the letter of the law, which was also confirmed by Peter Walton on BT Sports.
Agree
Seeing this thread, I though for a second I accidentally had entered a City forum.
The “interference” has to be tangible (visible) rather than what goes on in the mind of the defenders and Ederson because Rashford has the ball. The call was spot on but it needs to be consistent across the premier league.
He interfered in terms of Ederson's positioning and focus. Couldn't give a shit though.
Absolutely. But we have been on the wrong end of terrible refereeing decisions for years. I don’t begrudge one in our favour!
After Arsenal game where their goal disallowed being deemed a bad decision and this, I am loving how all the ABUs will keep on crying
He’s not offside the way the rules are written, it’s as simple as that.
However, I personally think he should be given offside if I could rewrite the rules. We had one against Everton in the cup which I also think should be offside, Varane plays the ball because the attacker is behind him miles offside, Everton score 5 seconds later.
However, I personally think he should be given offside if I could rewrite the rules. We had one against Everton in the cup which I also think should be offside, Varane plays the ball because the attacker is behind him miles offside, Everton score 5 seconds later.
Don't give a fecking damn.
50/50 decision and we were on the right end of it this time. We were on the wrong end of a 50/50 decision in the FA Cup and we'll be on the wrong end of one again at some point. Them's the breaks.
This is fair. Both of City's fans are just going to have to fecking suck it up, unfortunately.
Rashford went for the ball and pulled out. Fact. Now, is that inferring with play? I think so. But I don't care feckerrrrs
Absolutely not, how does he interfere? Take him out the picture and it ends the same way.
Akanji would have got that without Rashford being in front of him, but shit happens and we got the break this time. As Fergie always said it all evens out over a season.
Brian clough once said “if a player is not interfering with play he shouldn’t be on the pitch”
I agree with that, can’t understand why it wasn’t given but my vote is “offside but don’t care”
Genuinely don’t understand this rule now
I agree with that, can’t understand why it wasn’t given but my vote is “offside but don’t care”
Genuinely don’t understand this rule now
Who gives a feck.
I said I’d give the referee a beer or two if he let that one go, unfortunately I’ll be needing that beer to celebrate now.
Yeah but the anger should be directed at the defenders, both of whom were too slow to react to Bruno's run - if Rashford had stopped existing as soon as the ball was played, Bruno would still have been first to it and would have scored the same way.
Couldn't be bothered to give two rat's arses.
Wasn't Salah given a similar goal last weekend?
He ran at the ball. When you're offside you stop he was literally running at least 5m after the ball
Who even cares? City had 1 (ONE) shot on goal whole game, we had much more chances, absolutely deserved win. Pep can have "more possession" trophy.
This was 55-45 to decide if goal or not. But I will happily take this home as we were done by ref so many times in recent past.This is fair. Both of City's fans are just going to have to fecking suck it up, unfortunately.
People moaning for United getting this one in our favour should be warned. Seriously.
I was 100% sure that would be offside when I first watched it live. But watching the replays, I am convinced it was the correct decision. Watch the clip and try to completely ignore Rashford and it looks like an inch perfect pass for Bruno which he would get to first before any defenders.
He definitely was, but I do think it's hard to say whether the City players would have got to the ball before Bruno if Rashford had held his run. Not sure whether just putting doubt in defenders' minds by being in an offside position is in the rulebook.
I think the rule is he is only active if he touches it or attempts to touch it which he didn't do and seemed to try his best not to touch it.
Perhaps the loophole is you can do that and it stands
I do think if the City player behind him had tried harder and actually made contact with Rashford then Rashford would be deemed active
Perhaps the loophole is you can do that and it stands
I do think if the City player behind him had tried harder and actually made contact with Rashford then Rashford would be deemed active
He was, but you cant attribute city players' actions to any of that. All of that is subjective.
Rewrite the fecking rule to make it simpler for everyone.
Rewrite the fecking rule to make it simpler for everyone.