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Was Rashford interfering with play?
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While I do think that we got away with one, there are too many gray areas with the offside rule as it currently stands.
Let's take City's goal. When the ball gets recycled, Walker is in an offside position but Malaccia has to go towards him to make sure he's not completely free. This results in KdB having a bit more space to make his run into the box. Won't the same 'interfering with play' logic apply here?
Let's take City's goal. When the ball gets recycled, Walker is in an offside position but Malaccia has to go towards him to make sure he's not completely free. This results in KdB having a bit more space to make his run into the box. Won't the same 'interfering with play' logic apply here?
The problem in all this is actually Akanji. Had he ran over to Rashford, Rashford is offside. But because Akanji is lazy and doesn't play to the whistle, the goal stands. People can be mad at the rules, the rules are fecking stupid half the time, but the anger should be in the lazy defending.
Hearing everyone complain about Rashford and wanting to change the rules, soon you'll be telling me dummy runs are illegal as it impedes the defender
Hearing everyone complain about Rashford and wanting to change the rules, soon you'll be telling me dummy runs are illegal as it impedes the defender
Funny how these rules are only ever called into question when it benefits us. These kinds of situations occur every other week and no one bats an eyelid. I’ve seen far worse instances of this without any of the post-match “controversy” afterwards.
Jesus the saltiness around that goal! 
Taste those salty tears.Jesus the saltiness around that goal!
No and don't care. It will be scrutinized and analysed to death because it's us, but I genuinely think the spirit of the offside rule shouldn't exist to disallow petty bullshit like our goal today. Rashford deliberately didn't interfere with play - it was a clever goal. My personal cardinal rule is that f you have to debate for an hour over "was it or wasn't it a goal", I'd rather have the goals stand because that's what it's all about. It's happened against us before and I've felt the same way.
No, not by the current rules. Think it should be deemed offside personally, but that is another discussion.
Keeper was never getting to it first no matter what people say, Walker wasn't and Akanji wasn't either.
Sure Rashford running towards the ball "effects" play, but that isn't actually the rule.
The offside law has needed changing for years but nobody really cares until it suits them.
Sure Rashford running towards the ball "effects" play, but that isn't actually the rule.
The offside law has needed changing for years but nobody really cares until it suits them.
People need to stop pretending that with Ake, Akanji and Ederson could all compete with Usain Bolt in 100m sprint.
I swear the even more ridiculous decisions in the Liverpool v Wolves match never got this level of obsession a few days back
This is what I don’t really get. Everything any player does is “affecting” the play… in that a defenders movement will inevitably be changed by a player standing in an offside position, even if they’re just pissing about by the corner flag. It might distract a defender, or make a keeper lose concentration for a split second… So deciding what point is the red line for us to call off an onside goal is the real rub…
..and considering everything else was fine (Bruno is miles on, Rashford doesn’t touch it, the defender isn’t getting there) at worst it’s just this offside rule’s version of Rashford “winning” a foul with clever play. Iffy, but fine.
If I was City I'd be pretty annoyed, but I'd be just as annoyed that our defenders just decided to stop defending.
Deal with the ball, you can complain to the ref after. They all left it because they were waiting for the flag, that's what happens when you feck around.
No, not under current rules. I do think the rules should be changed at some point. Happy that we scored and its a bonus that City are annoyed.
Spot on
Football law analyst agrees Akanji was a pussy
From a football laws analyst and actual ref. Basically as I said. Defenders aren't impacted at all. Ederson is best shout, but just too far away and it'd be a reach to say it was a significant impact. Onside is correct.
Ha, literally posted at the same time
I don't think I've seen anyone say that it doesn't look half dodgy. I don't know if it's the caf or just United fans in general but we tend to take own it whenever we get dodgy decisions and take special glee in it.
All he had to do was touch Rashford and then he would have been 'interfering' with play. That's literally all it would have took to chalk that goal off but he was too busy eyeing up the lino for the entire move.
Great minds
I think he was interfering and I love it. A dodgy offside pales in comparison to blood money financial doping anyway
Having seen it now again on MOTD I agree he was offside. Do I care? Given they spent half the game throwing themselves to floor at the slightest contact, and the other half passing in triangles in their own 3rd.. Do I feck!
Thoroughly deserved win.
Thoroughly deserved win.
If Rashord isn't there, both Akanji and Walker would fancy their chances in a foot race with Bruno and act differently. That to me is interference.
Walker ends up ahead of the ball as it is and if the ball is open (rather than effectively being shielded/shadowed by Rashford) either or both of them would have at least made a slide to tackle or block.
If the laws, as they stand, don't care about this then it they are not fit for purpose.
It is lovely to get a shitty decision now and again though.
Walker ends up ahead of the ball as it is and if the ball is open (rather than effectively being shielded/shadowed by Rashford) either or both of them would have at least made a slide to tackle or block.
If the laws, as they stand, don't care about this then it they are not fit for purpose.
It is lovely to get a shitty decision now and again though.
Haaland could have spent the entire game playing in an offside position when you think about it.
If City's defenders had tried to go for the ball and Rashford's positioning stopped them, it would absolutely be interfering with play. Instead, they never make a move to the ball so he didn't interfere with their ability to play the ball. This is all on the City defenders for not trying to defend.
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Great line from a great manager;
"If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be."
"If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be."
There’s been plenty of decisions like this.
Nothing to see here. Just a big deal cause United won the game.
City's defenders stopped for a brief second, thinking Rashford was offside and the flag would go up, but surely they must know to play on untill the flag goes up and the whistle is blown.
He wasn't interfering, he was making the run, every player is interfering of that's the case.
He wasn't interfering, he was making the run, every player is interfering of that's the case.
Of course it was offside but I don't care
I thought this myself, if he runs into Rashford then he would be deemed interfering
Akanji is arguing that there was interference because he "played Rashford offside", but that is not Rashford interfering, that is Akanji making a choice that didn't work out for him.
It is literally the opposite though. The ball was clearly played to Rashford, he clearly made the run for the ball, he even prepares to shoot at some point.That is the spirit of the offside rule. It is only later that we started faffing about with the rule to allow ridiculous situations like these or the Salah goal to stand.
Walker was hilarious, he was quick enough to get in front of Bruno but he just followed him and watched the action
The only thing Rashford was interfering was his form and result is he's being fox of a player now. We all know, in a title race you have to possess that kind of arrogant mentality.
United cheating/lucky/corrupt. Music to my ears. The fear factor is coming back
If he’d blocked a player off from getting to the ball or he obviously touches it then he’s interfering. Just running close to the ball isn’t. Rashford doesn’t stop a defender being able to clear it before Bruno takes his shot. The goal is fine
Refs have to apply the laws as they are currently, so was correct to award the goal. Credit to him for getting it right.
Blame the absurdities of the offside law and the guidance given to refs. Perhaps IFAB just wants to see more goals.
Blame the absurdities of the offside law and the guidance given to refs. Perhaps IFAB just wants to see more goals.
Yeah,
Akanji near enough stopped, City only have themselves to blame