But you only sign overpriced defenders who are already crap?
Virgil Van Dijk performances
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But you only sign overpriced defenders who are already crap?
Wouldn't bet on it. It's an ankle injury, which although serious, isn't career ending. He's young enough to recover completely, and has four to five months to recover properly after returning to fitness.
A lot of big clubs will still be interested in the summer.
Given Saints have also just sold Fonte, they are in huge trouble at the back. Don't particularly rate Yoshida in the middle.
Yeah probably in the summer, but i meant this month.
Was never going to happen this month. They were resigned to jettisoning Fonte, but were never going to get rid of Van Dijk in the same window. Definitely a summer move, as it gives them time to find a replacement.
That's a fair assessment of Rio IMO. He was excellent at turning into space and he was a tidy passer, but he wasn't the barnstorming type like Lucio or Sammer, or a particularly great long-range passer like Koeman or Hierro, or Bonucci in today's game. He was a brilliant defender first and foremost, and very good rather than great on the ball.
Why haven't United been linked to him yet?
Seems weird considering we'll probably be in the market for a defender & Van Dijk will likely be on the move.
Seems weird considering we'll probably be in the market for a defender & Van Dijk will likely be on the move.
We have
Not serious links. Only Liverpool and City have had any links that I've seen
Feck sake. That may aswell be a bye for Liverpool tonight now
I've always wanted to see Van Dijk at United. Hopefully it happens
A lot of clubs seem to want him. Arsenal are the latest club to be linked.
Van Dijk is brilliant and I'd be envious of whoever signed him. I'd love him here.
He's what John Stones is meant to be.
He's what John Stones is meant to be.
Surely he's the one to go after this summer? As I alluded to in the Michael Keane discussion, I'd be concerned if only Keane were to come in, however, van Dijk as a starter and Keane as an extra option seems viable. A pool of Bailly, van Dijk, Rojo and Keane going into next season and I'd be happy with that. Not that I'd be urgent to see Smalling leave, mind you, but it's conceivable that he and Jones both take their leave this summer, I feel.
That story has changed I think. It's showing Ander Herrera talking about the Derby for me.
When is he back?
Just as an aside the only thing I'd be concerned about is how he does away from the midfield protection afforded by Southampton. Lovren still struggles with us when he's left on his own I do wonder how VVD will fare here. On the face of it his attributes look like they'll transcend any individual system and transfer over to our style of play. But it is something that needs to be factored in, would be interested in a saints fans take on it. Alderweireld has Wanyama/Dier/Dembele still in front of him at Spurs, VVD will get no such protection here. He'll have to be top class week in week out.
Errm, has there been any update? Saints look determined to keep him (from us at least).
I think he'd be more suited to Chelsea for the reasons you mention, but VVD would definitely be an upgrade on all of your defenders. He'd be an upgrade for most teams, in truth. Top class player.
More a wish than anything!! just wondering how well he'll fit in . I haven't had a look at his statsAye hed be monstrous for them. He will get a lot less praise and accolades here just because he's going to make more mistakes and errors than he otherwise would have done. But if he's the world class player we think he is he'll shut out enough for us to do real damage that's the hope. Our Kompany if you will.
Apparently he's on a flight over from Bournemouth right now, according to Liverpool fans tracking the flight anyway.
They've been tracking the club van that picked up from the airport too apparently.
Bit comical, but would be funny if it were actually him.
Baggage handlers are so 2003.
They reckon it's actually him, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. This years summer deadline day should be good anyway.
He'll be fine once Keita arrives. Until then he'd be a massive upgrade on Lovren and Klavan and that alone would breed more confidence in the team. I think a lot of the problems stem from them all being shit scared they can't rely on Lovren/Klavan and either of the Goalkeepers, I'd be fecking terrified defending a set piece knowing one of them could drop a clanger everytime. You'd be more assured if it was Matip and VVD.
mad
an assured keeper wouldn't go amiss.
Kinda hoping that's what mignolet getting dropped was all about, but nothing seems to be happening.
If this actually materializes they become genuine title contenders I feel, unfortunately.
It's an odd one that one. Still can't work out if it's honestly cos he needed a rest (after two games?), whether he's had a bust up with Klopp, or the rumours of Napoli wanting are true (can't see it). Very very odd to change keepers for a big game so early in the season.
Gotta laugh at the fact Arsenal didn't have a shot on target and Karius still nearly managed to throw a few goals away
the kind of bloke who could walk around a flump factory and still manage to break something.Who knows. Klopp is a shameless blagger on stuff like this.
Yeah. It's a function of the way you guys play. Need your defenders to be good one on one. At the same time a better DM screening might help.
Aye, I know part of his job is to lie to protect his players but I lost a bit of respect for him in all the Coutinho is sick bollocks. Nobody would have batted an eyelid if he'd told the truth and said the kids not in the right place mentally to play, all that bad back followed by he's now also poorly was unnecessary and makes him look a prize pudding now he's OK to play for Brazil.
Steady on. We're giving the league to City anyway after they get Sanchez. No point in playing any more games according to some experts.
I don't think it's much more exposed than the way you set up in latter years under ferguson.
Van der saar/de gea, ferdinand, vidic and evra cleaning up makes a world of difference to what we've been doing though. Those guys could deal with a bit of pressure. Someone like lovren crumbles the moment he is a bit isolated. Moreno never even gets that far before he's thrown himself into a sliding tackle.
they also weren't an absolute joke on set pieces.
Yeah. I agree it would be/ is similar to how we set up with our defense in days of Fergie. Ferdinand in particular was brilliant one on one and holding up an attack while the rest of the team is running back.
It's an odd one that one. Still can't work out if it's honestly cos he needed a rest (after two games?), whether he's had a bust up with Klopp, or the rumours of Napoli wanting are true (can't see it). Very very odd to change keepers for a big game so early in the season.
Gotta laugh at the fact Arsenal didn't have a shot on target and Karius still nearly managed to throw a few goals away
Apparently Reina wants to stay at Napoli so that is probably that
That's not an issue and he is very different to Lovren. Lovren had Schneiderlin (before you Mancs broke him) and Wanyama. van Dijk had Romeu and Clasie/Warde-Prowse/Davies/Hojbjerg in front of him. Romeu was/is great but hardly gave/gives a defensive shield like Lovren had.
It's an odd one that one. Still can't work out if it's honestly cos he needed a rest (after two games?), whether he's had a bust up with Klopp, or the rumours of Napoli wanting are true (can't see it). Very very odd to change keepers for a big game so early in the season.
Gotta laugh at the fact Arsenal didn't have a shot on target and Karius still nearly managed to throw a few goals away
We can rule that one out 100%
Out of interest do you think Van Dijk will leave before the window closes?