You must be having a laugh. I give you Valdes, but De Gea with the atrocious Wolverine beard thing he has going on is nowhere near the top of that league.
Begovic has them both handsomely beat though.
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Begovic has them both handsomely beat though.
It's pretty normal Valdes what we saw today. Having seen his career and that today that's enough to fill me with fear at the prospect of him being number one next year. I imagine that would convince LVG he has to buy if he had any doubts.
Lindegaard is better looking than De Gea too.
IF Ekeke. That's the operative word. It didn't. If my mother were our fathers an all that
I'm just saying its a decent save, but he should be making it or else there need to be questions asked. The second one was a really good save and I'm happy about that
The save from the header was the more difficult of the two.
Yup.
Valdes showed what a great shot stopper he is, but like a lot of foreign keepers he struggled with cross's and the physical demands of a typical premier league match, we could do a lot worse but if DDG is leaving then we need someone for the long haul, not a stop gap.
That's where Valdes is valuable, he will buy us some time.
In the "Who is the better looking stakes its Valdes by a mile. De Gea looks like Mr. Tumnus.
Valdes made some amazing saves yesterday. I'm not wooried about the couple of fumbles he made. Like De Gea he'll adapt to the Premier League.
Valdes made some amazing saves yesterday. I'm not wooried about the couple of fumbles he made. Like De Gea he'll adapt to the Premier League.
Please don't comment on Valdes until you have watched him (play) for at least 3 months.
Thank you.
I don't particularly rate him, but he is the obvious option for no.1 if DDG leaves. There will be a drop in quality but the ones close to DDG's level are not available and the ones who are are not really an upgrade to Valdes. Put him in the gym for the summer to improve his strength and he should be fine next season.
Anyway, I don't know if anyone felt the same, but by some reason I always thought he was a bit of a cnut when he was playing for Barca, but now that I've seen more of him, he seems to be a really nice guy, I am pleased to have him here.
Anyway, I don't know if anyone felt the same, but by some reason I always thought he was a bit of a cnut when he was playing for Barca, but now that I've seen more of him, he seems to be a really nice guy, I am pleased to have him here.
He was definitely coming off 2nd best when it came to dealing with incoming crosses and he could have showed more of a presence in the crowded box situations but I think that can be worked on and improvements can be made in them areas.
I'm not to sure it would be as easy to improve the one area where he was really on the ball yesterday though and that was his shot stopping, a keeper either has that or he doesn't, it just comes natural to them and he certainly has the head and the reflexes when it comes to shot stopping.
There's another good 3/4 years left in him yet and taking into account the length of time he's been sitting on the bench, what I've seen of him so far, his experience and what he has achieved in the past, I think we can be thanking our lucky stars we have a lad like him ready and waiting to step in between the sticks full time if De Gea hits the road.
It would be well worth the risk ignoring the keeper situation for now, giving him a chance and improve the defense that would be in front of him instead.
I'm not to sure it would be as easy to improve the one area where he was really on the ball yesterday though and that was his shot stopping, a keeper either has that or he doesn't, it just comes natural to them and he certainly has the head and the reflexes when it comes to shot stopping.
There's another good 3/4 years left in him yet and taking into account the length of time he's been sitting on the bench, what I've seen of him so far, his experience and what he has achieved in the past, I think we can be thanking our lucky stars we have a lad like him ready and waiting to step in between the sticks full time if De Gea hits the road.
It would be well worth the risk ignoring the keeper situation for now, giving him a chance and improve the defense that would be in front of him instead.
Look Valdes is good enough that a keeper iisn't our main priority for this summer. However, that doesn't mean we should pass up on someone like Cech or Leno should they become available because they're both better than Valdes atm.
I'm in love with his distribution.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth on a bicycle i have no words.
No wonder you say things like that about Valdes, you only have one eye.
He was world class for Barca last season and pulled off some wonderful saves yesterday but I think it seems pretty clear he's going to have a lot of issues with the aerial game in England. I'd rather we got one of those German keepers.
Yeah that's clearly going to be a bit of an issue with him. It's not a slight on the chap because like de gea when he came here he's just not used to constant aerial bombardment. In this league you probably do need to be physically imposing as a keeper. Having said that you never how quickly one picks up stuff, although the height can be a hinderance.
The thing is Valdés has always been the kind of keeper that likes to take charge of his area and we've already seen he's not fearful of trying to impose himself, but he really does just lack that aerial dominance and his handling has always been a little suspect. I think it's just a fundamental flaw in his game which would be heavily exposed here. He can improve on it certainly, but given the fact coming out and trying to take charge has been such a prominent part of his game for such a long time and he still hasn't mastered it, I'm not convinced we can rely on him getting it up to scratch. I don't think we can afford to have another couple of seasons of regular calamities either, particularly with a less than stellar defence.
He's a bit Barthez-esque, I think. Let's get Leno.
Genuine question, what do you mean by handling? Valdes weirdly enough will catch the shots with ease but will struggle with catching crosses.
And about Leno he improved this season but he struggles with catching all type of balls, he will punch everything who comes at him.
Claus von Stauffenberg had also one eye and nearly got Hitler
Well they all count Ekeke. I'm just concerned about his ability at crosses
Valdes looks like Private Pile out of FMJ.
Reminds me of early De Gea in that though, it took him awhile to adjust to it, but he managed in the end.
van der Gouw wasn't bad!
He pulled off some fine saves during the match and was quite rightly voted man of the match. I have no worries if he is to become number one next season if De Gea leaves. I do think van Gaal will buy someone else though and use Valdes as second choice however.
Will start as no1 next season but in genuine competition with cillessen
His shot stopping against Hull was on par with what we are used to from De Gea, world class no doubt, and to be honest am not concerned by the lack of height, aerial prowess and physical presence...
De Gea is built like a worn shoe lace, never comes for crosses, never clears the box from corners, just man's his line and makes the save... alright he is pretty good at it but it has still lead to us leaking goals and has meant that our defense has been under sustained pressure which him catching and holding the ball would have alleviated.
I am happy that Valdes offers us more or less what De Gea does (other than youth) am only excited at the prospect of getting a keeper with physical presence, if it doesn't happen then Meh! Valdes is easily good enough, we have certainly managed with worse (cough Foster, erhem Taibi, hell Carroll and Sealy were nowhere near the Schmeichel, VDS level) and Lindegard is also pretty damn good, not top 5 in the world but if we had to manage for a season with either Valdes or Lindegard in goal I don't think it would define our finishing position greatly!
De Gea is built like a worn shoe lace, never comes for crosses, never clears the box from corners, just man's his line and makes the save... alright he is pretty good at it but it has still lead to us leaking goals and has meant that our defense has been under sustained pressure which him catching and holding the ball would have alleviated.
I am happy that Valdes offers us more or less what De Gea does (other than youth) am only excited at the prospect of getting a keeper with physical presence, if it doesn't happen then Meh! Valdes is easily good enough, we have certainly managed with worse (cough Foster, erhem Taibi, hell Carroll and Sealy were nowhere near the Schmeichel, VDS level) and Lindegard is also pretty damn good, not top 5 in the world but if we had to manage for a season with either Valdes or Lindegard in goal I don't think it would define our finishing position greatly!
It's not true at all that De Gea never comes for crosses or corners. He often does and rarely makes mistakes when doing so
Agreed. Strange thing to say.
Obviously if De Gea does leave I think if Cech is in anyway obtainable it would foolish not to go for him. Ive had doubts about Valdes long before his debut for us. Im convinced he just not a "United keeper".
Is this September 2011, and have we just lost 2-1 to West Brom?
As for Valdes, he is what he is. A great shot stopper but a goalkeeper with a penchant for flapping in his penalty area. If he can adapt to the demands of the Premier League then he'll succeed. If he can't, then he'll be targeted like a liability. Aerial development is generally easy for goalkeepers to improve upon, albeit making that transition at the age of 32 is very different to making it when you're only turning 20 (like De Gea was).
Valdes is a gamble and his whole career here rests on his ability to catch the ball from a corner kick.
Fecking eck seriously?
I dont know if Cillessen can provide serious competition, i doubt it. We should get Leno, that on the other hand would be serious competition.
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