Varane publicly challenges the FA over rule changes and number of games
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He’s right. The new additional time rule is a load of old bollocks and will get canned after three weeks.
It‘s also another huge piss in the face of match-going supporters, who already have to leave the ground early in order to make sure they get home before 6am the next morning.
The game is fine as it is; just leave it alone.
It‘s also another huge piss in the face of match-going supporters, who already have to leave the ground early in order to make sure they get home before 6am the next morning.
The game is fine as it is; just leave it alone.
Have they even give a reason behind the idea of longer games? I just don't understand it.
What is he on about? If there is less time-wasting, the games won’t be any longer. It’s really not a difficult concept. Players will now just be playing matches that are the correct length, not artificially shortened by whichever team happens to be winning.
There will be almost ten minutes of stoppage time whether teams are time-wasting or not. It’s a load of bollocks, where time-wasting teams aren’t actually punished at all.
They need to enforce yellow cards for time wasting more seriously.. Especially the obvious things..
not getting off the pitch quick / not talking the shortest exit
kicking/throwing ball away
stopping a quick throw in/free kick
and any place where the ref thinks there is a clear attempt to waste time.
not getting off the pitch quick / not talking the shortest exit
kicking/throwing ball away
stopping a quick throw in/free kick
and any place where the ref thinks there is a clear attempt to waste time.
I believe it's in an effort to curb time wasting, general shithousery etc and increase the amount of time the ball is in play to 60mins per game.
Only if there have been actual injuries or other stoppages which justify it. He obviously has a good point about the schedule generally but match length is the wrong focus.
As much as I'd like to see longer games as a fan, I don't see it matching to the physical demands of actually playing given how football has changed to become more high tempo over recent years. It's a different sport but you can see a similar parallel in baseball this year with the addition of a pitch clock to decrease time took between pitches. There's been a lot of significant injuries to pitchers as a result and it seems easy to form a connection between the two.
I believe you'd need to implement more thorough changes to the game for the players physical health not to suffer. Things like being able to bring subbed players back on after a certain amount of time so they can take a breather.
Edit - I would still love to see more punishment for feigning injuries. That's a completely different kettle of fish to taking time over a thrown-in or goal kick.
I believe you'd need to implement more thorough changes to the game for the players physical health not to suffer. Things like being able to bring subbed players back on after a certain amount of time so they can take a breather.
Edit - I would still love to see more punishment for feigning injuries. That's a completely different kettle of fish to taking time over a thrown-in or goal kick.
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"Less emotions being shown by players"?
Nobody is asking for that. Just don't be a cheating, time wasting, petulant bellend (Varane doesn't seem to be either or those things) and there's no problem.
Nobody is asking for that. Just don't be a cheating, time wasting, petulant bellend (Varane doesn't seem to be either or those things) and there's no problem.
There wasn’t any time wasting yesterday and we got 12 minutes of extra time
Well i can understand Varane. But if this deter time wasters to just play the game it would make sure the games have a higher quality (City and Spanish teams im looking at you especially!)
It was about right to be fair. There was a very long stoppage for a head injury.
They are asking players not to talk back to refs. Which is something I just don't understand and I've had previous debates about it. In any profession, if you mess up you would expect your colleagues to let you know. But a ref can make all kind of terrible decisions and players are just supposed to smile and nod. Especially, given the standard of refereeing which is atrocious at best.
Spot on.
More injury time is just treating the symptoms (less playing time) not the actual cause (time wasting). If there were more frequent punishments for the obvious tactics it would go some way to crack down on it.
I still think overall though 30 minute halves with a stop-clock is the way to go.
There's not asking players to "not talk back". They're asking them to not be abusive.
That’s after 8 minutes was signalled though?
It’s not like teams start time wasting near the end of the game, the worst examples occur right through the second half. I can’t see how a team that’s prepared to time waste for a 90 minute game will suddenly speed up to stop it becoming a 100 minute game.
There’s going to be 10 minutes signalled one day and someone will score in the 18th minute of extra time and it will look ridiculous.
Ban time wasters
Ban rugby tacklers
Stop suspending games for stupid reasons that they come back and bite clubs in the arse all at the same time
Reduce meaningless friendlies
Ban rugby tacklers
Stop suspending games for stupid reasons that they come back and bite clubs in the arse all at the same time
Reduce meaningless friendlies
Relegate Newcastle
Klopp hacking Twitter accounts?
Yesterdays game was one of the main reasons this extra time and new rules have been brought in, the amount of time wasting, cynical fouls and moaning was embarrassing.
By sticking to this extra time rule the players will eventually realise that they can't get away with time wasting any more.
Stop the time wasting and the games go back to 2 or 3 minutes injury time.
Simple.
As for playing too many games, he is 100% right about that.
By sticking to this extra time rule the players will eventually realise that they can't get away with time wasting any more.
Stop the time wasting and the games go back to 2 or 3 minutes injury time.
Simple.
As for playing too many games, he is 100% right about that.
On the flip side theres also the problem small face when they’re falsely accused of time wasting. I see it at Anfield all the time, it’s when they aren’t rushing around after the ball or simply not running off the pitch when subbed they’re accused of time wasting and Liverpool get 5/6/7 minutes to find a goal out of nowhere.
There’s no law saying you have no run off the pitch when being subbed but you routinely see the ref hurry players along because the crowd are on their back
No, what’s a piss the face of fans is paying a lot of money to go and watch these multimillionaires kick a ball around for 90 minutes and the game isn’t even in play for 40 minutes of that time. If they don’t time waste then they don’t have to play for 100 minutes, it’s very simple.
I really like Varane 
How am I supposed to politely tell a ref he's rubbish at his job?
Making instead of trying to cover up the issue, FA should invest more resources into ensuring the refs are of a higher standard.
If his colleagues follow the rules and stop trying to cheat in every way possible to get an advantage, those new rules wouldn't happen.
"you got that one wrong ref, I got the ball"
Is very different to multiple players chasing the ref screaming swearwords in his face.
They have specifically asked for that though, including reducing time spent celebrating etc
Pretty sure that's how most players interact with the refs. Most of the interactions you see involve a chuckle from either party.
It's only when during the same game refs keep making the wrong decisions or make a wrong decision in a high pressure situation do players react aggressively. Even in those cases unless someone goes ballistic like Mitrovic and puts his hands on the ref, I don't see the reason to make a big hue and cry about it.
Wrong decisions affect matches and title challenges, so I don't find it strange players who are giving everything on the pitch will react with angst over wrong decisions.
10 minutes injury time will be the norm. Matches going into 105 to 110 minutes will start to happen, most likely when City need a goal
You think they've "specifically asked" for players to show less emotions?
The new 'extra added on time rule' is a complete nonsense. Here's a novel idea - instead of adding on an arbitrary 10 minutes (for example), how about treating each game on it's own merit and timing it accurately and correctly?
Absolutely. Which is why these new "rules" will only impact the bellends.
I agree. It’s also never pointed out that this in itself ruins the competition.
Not checked the fixtures, but as an example… City or Liverpool could play Luton at home in a 100+ minute match and run in a cricket score. Other struggling teams may play at those two grounds in old format 90 minute matches.
They could be relegated on goal difference.
These dumb shit half season adjustments have always been unfair.
"I retired from National Team where I was the top dog to be able to focus on me matches, giving smiles to me club's fans and you turned the weans refs against us"
I don't know why additional time makes more sense than a stop clock.
It's just a lot closer to the current system. I agree a stop clock would be better but that's a huge change to the game.
I don't understand the problem really?
The players are still allowed to show emotions, nothing has changed? Kicking the ball away has nothing to do with emotions? Protesting with the full team against refs is showing emotions too? So all other sports I known are playing without emotions?
And I don't think around 5 minutes more every game will change the health from players, that shouldn't be a big difference. Don't wast much time and it will be like always.
The players are still allowed to show emotions, nothing has changed? Kicking the ball away has nothing to do with emotions? Protesting with the full team against refs is showing emotions too? So all other sports I known are playing without emotions?
And I don't think around 5 minutes more every game will change the health from players, that shouldn't be a big difference. Don't wast much time and it will be like always.
Not in those exact words, but if they’ve been asked to reduce time celebrating, and tone down interactions with the referee, then I can easily understand why someone may refer to that as ‘showing less emotion’. Particularly if it’s not a native speaker.