They look like they're about to start dancingI love van Gaal but I hope to see some anger in the future too!
Van Gaal - the character
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
I really like his personality. He's very disciplined but you can see he has a soul and likes to also have fun. His confidence is contagious and I can't imagine the difference it must be for the players to spend each day working with him instead of the coaching setup of last season. I would repeat what others say in that he seems a very honest man.
I think he's clever not to be getting involved on the touchline/with referees at the moment. I don't think it's just a language thing. As a club we are in a delicate position and I think his calming influence and approach to the job has been very important. I liked to see Fergie having a go as much as anyone but he was in a strong position to do so whereas LVG doesn't have that luxury. Some may see him sitting down all game and wonder why he isn't being more involved but I think it spreads the message that he has trust in his team of players and coaches.
I think he's clever not to be getting involved on the touchline/with referees at the moment. I don't think it's just a language thing. As a club we are in a delicate position and I think his calming influence and approach to the job has been very important. I liked to see Fergie having a go as much as anyone but he was in a strong position to do so whereas LVG doesn't have that luxury. Some may see him sitting down all game and wonder why he isn't being more involved but I think it spreads the message that he has trust in his team of players and coaches.
He is taking his time with the media, I guess. For a foreigner, to manage in this League, it can turn very tedious with the media not by your side (AvB, Ancelloti). I think LvG is wary of that side of the media, and hence just wants to get the team to his desired level first before firing potshots towards refs/rival managers.
Wonder when he'll be on the touch line barking at the players. Really want to see some of it.
I think that's to give the impression to players that he trusts them to carry out his system. They're still adapting to it, so I imagine he'll sit back and let them learn, unneccessary panic on the sidelines can be a bit distracting.
Fair point, and that could well be the case. It will be interesting if we see a change next season compared to this one.
He's certainly a breath of fresh air after watching 10 months of press conferences and interviews from Moyes which were generally about as interesting as watching a video of someone else watching paint dry. I look forward to the friday press conference again.
Must be great for the players also to work under such a big personality who exudes confidence, for the ones who played for SAF it must be great to have that back.
Must be great for the players also to work under such a big personality who exudes confidence, for the ones who played for SAF it must be great to have that back.
I think he mixes arrogance and humility in a good way. He knows he must appear strong, he's experienced and has a right to be confident in his own abilities, but at the same time he's pretty honest, and he expects the same standard of himself as he does of everyone else. I don't think he thinks he knows better than everyone else, but he knows what he has to do better than everyone else.
And it's obvious that he's a perfectionist and workaholic, almost to the absurd. Remember how he wanted the journalists to take notes on how good Falcao's English was?
He does seem a bit extra edgy with journalists. When you see the pics from the training ground, he's all smiles. I can see why the players like him, he seems like a guy it's easy to believe in. Compared to Moyes, he must seem like the Second Coming.
From "I don't know what we have to do to win, but if we watch videos of Jagielka and aspire to be like City, it might work out"
to
"My philosophy is to dominate the game and score goals. If you buy into it, I guarantee you we will win things. You have three weeks to show that you're good enough. If you prove it, you'll have gained my trust, and if not, you're out"
Perfectly said!He explained that it was due to the position of the sits in England, they are in the stands, and he is in his 60s. I think that we will see him more active in Champions League where the sits are generally actually on the sideline.
He will. He always has, with at his peak his famous 'karate kick'. With the team low on confidence, especially earlier this season, it does not make sense to shout like a madman at your players, it will only decrease their confidence. I guess when the team really picks up his tactics and philosophy he will be more vocal. E.g. it does not make sense to shout at your new puppy for crapping on the carpet, you correct him but you are not that angry because you know things like that can happen with a puppy. If a full grown dog does it, then it is a different story. Guess the same goes for Louis and our team, you cannot blame someone for something he never knew.
He is practically the complete opposite of Moyes in terms of personality.
United is a big club and requires a big manager - big in terms of ego and personality, as well as simple ability. It was for that reason I thought we should have tried to get Mourinho last year, and the reason that when I heard LVG was going to be appointed I (after doing some background reading) thought he looked perfect for the job.
United is a big club and requires a big manager - big in terms of ego and personality, as well as simple ability. It was for that reason I thought we should have tried to get Mourinho last year, and the reason that when I heard LVG was going to be appointed I (after doing some background reading) thought he looked perfect for the job.
Giggs' interview not long ago fielded this "issue" as well and Giggs said that LVG let him speak to the players on the touchline as his (Giggs') English was a lot better and he could communicate a message to the players quicker.
Giggs went on to say that when LVG has improved his English he will probably try to get more involved on the touchline.
But Van Gaal is not a touchline coach, he is the type of coach who sits, observes, takes notes and sometimes because he is a passionate man will talk on the touchline, but it's rare.
And the "karate kick" was an action from a very young Van Gaal.
Could you imagine Moyes doing this?
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...anchester-united-drone-patrol-to-hide-tactics
Has just ordered drone patrols!
I don't know what to say but he's awesome.
Has just ordered drone patrols!
I don't know what to say but he's awesome.
Don't you think that's a must though in a manager these days? It takes the pressure off the players and completely puts it on him. Which is a good thing.
Not seen that gif, awesome
Was that in Amsterdam after the world cup?
It was in Amsterdam but i believe it was during the gaypride. The KNVB (Dutch FA) had a boat for the first time and he was manager of the national team at that time. I think it's the reason he wears the pink thing around his arm.
The man has a great personality. Confident in his speaking and in his abilities is just what we need now. It reassures me as a fan, I can only imagine it does the same for the players. I don't think he ever ventured into arrogant territory. Being a bit brash and stand-offish with the media is clearly another part of the plan to appear in control. More of the same I say.
I know... Yet his calm was almost too comforting though. This morning I read about Tom Howard's mention (his book) of Fergie's hair drying treatment on his debut and it worked because after that Howard managed to save two penalties and won us the community shield against arsenal.
I don't think LvG has that so it maybe somewhat lacking in the dress room to achieve the purpose to drive players on
LvG is the real deal. A great character.
"Andoooo, have you been at the biscuits again?"
His honesty is very refreshing so far. Some might be criticizing him for not having a go at referees to try and pressurize them, but I think that's just not his style. He's a very respectful person, very honest, and ever looks to blame something else other then how the team played overall for a result. Probably sees it as if they played well in the first place, a refereeing decision wouldn't have mattered anyways.
He is obviously extremely confident, but clearly knows what he's talking about and has the record to prove it, and he's exactly the type of manager we needed to rebuild us. You have other very good managers like klopp, mourinho, guardiola, etc., but Van gaal I think suits us with both his style/philosophy, and his personality.
He is obviously extremely confident, but clearly knows what he's talking about and has the record to prove it, and he's exactly the type of manager we needed to rebuild us. You have other very good managers like klopp, mourinho, guardiola, etc., but Van gaal I think suits us with both his style/philosophy, and his personality.
I agree totally. These kind of Fergie anger (out of passion not just negative venting and ranting) is necessary when it comes to marginal circumstances which could result a win or a lose. I really want to see him on the touch line yelling at players tooI love van Gaal but I hope to see some anger in the future too!
There was a small story doing rounds few months ago. Allegedly someone asked him for an autograph....he said "whybdo you want my autograph, i ve only got 5 points"
Val Gaal was reffering to our poor start.
Val Gaal was reffering to our poor start.
He's an egotist. He's also intelligent and very calm. Hashown a lot of self-restraint so far.
Not seen that gif, awesome
Was that in Amsterdam after the world cup?
Nope. That was Louis van Gaal showing the world how happy he is with gay people, true story.
Oh yeah, I agree that Mourinho has made a lot more questionable choices, and used more dirty tricks than LvG throughout his career. My point is simply that I find plenty of other managers more charming to listen to than our LvG. It's subjective and doesn't really matter at all -- as others have said, he's done a good job so far and certainly exudes the confidence that a Man Utd manager should have. I think that sort of answers your question too, @Andy_Cole
I have no idea wtf he was saying but I didn't want him to stop. Lesson in presentation right there.
You can translate it with Youtube.
How have balls not been mentioned yet in this thread? Or have they?
I love his straight forwardness. When asked whether the win against Arsenal (think it was Arsenal) would be turning point he said , words to the effect, no - because we played shite - which was true really.
But, aside from his obvious talent as a manager, he has the charisma, humour, personality and arrogance that a United manager needs. We've always produced teams that are either exciting or successful and sometimes both when we have a manager with a flair of personality, expressionism and strength. I'm thinking Fergie, Atkinson, Docherty, Busby. With meeker more unassuming managers we have never faired so well, I think I'm right in saying. Moyes, Sexton, O'Farrel.....
He just feels right....
But, aside from his obvious talent as a manager, he has the charisma, humour, personality and arrogance that a United manager needs. We've always produced teams that are either exciting or successful and sometimes both when we have a manager with a flair of personality, expressionism and strength. I'm thinking Fergie, Atkinson, Docherty, Busby. With meeker more unassuming managers we have never faired so well, I think I'm right in saying. Moyes, Sexton, O'Farrel.....
He just feels right....
I just love it when he looks at a dumb journo on some 'Don't ask me shit, mmmk'
Our recent form has been somewhat underwhelming and posters generally seem to be taking more of a disdain to Van Gaal and we're seeing some question his personality traits and what not.
Interested to see if anybody has changed their mind, or has anything new to add.
Interested to see if anybody has changed their mind, or has anything new to add.
I used to like him a lot but recently I have noticed more and more some of the aspects of his personality I don't like:
- Doesn't play formations I want him to play
- Doesn't use the players I want him to use
- Draws against West Ham