He was quite good at Spurs wasn't he? Granted his most impressive stuff was early at Ajax and at HSV who were still actually good back then. He also started great at Real, but he just lost his legs there and never really got them back. He definitely didn't deliver on that golden boy promise, he's still the best 17 year old I've ever seen, but people saying he is shit or average or the like are being silly. Though I understand it's mostly because of his remark about Maguire. That's just his thing though, he takes the piss.
Van der Vaart on Maguire "He's really sh*t"
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Ron Vlaar didn't, the XI I had for that post was erroneous. He had a great WC though.
Marcos Rojo did make the WC XI, which tells you everything.
No, hence why he was booted out after just 60 odd games for them.
Yes it does, as I informed you earlier it tells you it was a shitty mathematical model developed by a petrol company based on goals & assists
The Euro team of the tournament is voted on by a panel of experts made up of ex players and managers from all over Europe.
Enough with the Harry Maguire jokes already. He's an honest professional who never skips head day.
His stats at Spurs are decent though
2010/11 36 apps 15 goals 10 assists
2011/12 39 apps 13 goals 9 assists
He left cause he didn't get along with AVB
When did you do that? I must've missed it.Yes it does, as I informed you earlier it tells you it was a shitty mathematical model developed by a petrol company based on goals & assists
The Euro team of the tournament is voted on by a panel of experts made up of ex players and managers from all over Europe.
So is VDV eligible to be on that panel?
How about Van Basten and Gullit?
He was their top scorer his first season. I think we have different definitions of the terms average and shit.
If Harry is ‘shit’ then 90% of the football league is shit.
He is a full international and a big part in England making it to the finals. Something Holland haven’t done for a while.
But putting that to one side, my post was more aimed at being a pundit in the modern day.
VDV was very good for tottenham
Doesn't matter if he didn't reach the heights people hoped he still played consistently at a higher level than maguire from the moment he entered professional football.
I didn’t say shit did I? I said the dane was clearly better in the Prem, and that post Ajax, VDV was average.
You said he was a shit Eriksen. Either way, if you think he was average fair enough, I disagree. He was amazing at HSV for one thing and his first season at Spurs was as good as anything Eriksen did in the prem. If we are being this harsh with players I might nearly agree with his statement that Maguire is actually shit though. Honestly speaking he's not of course, he's decent, just not compared to his price tag.
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His career literally shits on Maguires currently. Let's see what maguire goes on to achieve but teams he played in internationally and on a domestic basis were higher. People pointy just bring up spurs and even then he was a major part of a time when spurs were top 4 and one of the most entertaining teams in the league.
I didn’t. Must have been another poster.
Oh my bad, it was
Still keeping us in games our atrocious defence has been trying hard to throw away. Not really the point though is it? Even if De gea was the worst keeper in the history of keepers, it doesnt take away from how poor Maguire is.
Maguire’s having an absolutely terrible season, but I consider every single player bar Ronaldo and Varane to be having a shite season.
De Gea’s had about 3 horror seasons.
That's really bad.
Maguire is slow and has questionable positioning, but he is clearly good enough to be worth 30 million. He was 80 million so he gets compared to actual world class defenders….
Some of my fellow United fans trying to laugh along with Van Der Vaart reminds me of the kid that would try and join in with his pals when they builled his dorky younger brother.
Marcos Rojo definitely approves of judging defenders this wayvan der vaart and the haters will never explain how a bad, awful, pathetic defender like maguire was nominated for the best euros XI
did van der vaart make it into a best euro XI ?
maguire just needs a better midfield in front of him and he will be back to his best 2020-21 form
Maguires been shit since he got here. Moments here and there, but generally shit. No one else matters, as we arent talking about anyone else no matter how many times you try to drag anyone else into it. The video speaks for itself. I have no idea wy youre bothering to argue the toss over this, as it there for all to see on the magic of video.
Say what you want about VDV, but I laugh every single time I see this.
Not too bothered if it is an accurate assessment or not, as Maguire has been both good and really shit for us. But I watch it mainly as a way to vent my frustrations about Maguire this season. So for that alone its a 10/10.
Have to disagree
Thats a very good team to be fair and probably well deservedMarcos Rojo definitely approves of judging defenders this way
Also van der vart is simply an attention whore nothing to waste time on really
Another one who doesn’t read the thread.
No, Rojo was NOT selected for a World Cup best 11 by a panel of ex pros and managers from all the other nations. He was “rated” in the top 11 of that tournament by a fecking mathematical model based on goals and assists and built by Castol fecking Petrol.
Thats fine, but its not me youre disagreeing with. Youre disagreeing with video tape.
Feck me.
Players screaming at other players is proof? Everyone Keano played with was shite then.
No one better for the hilarious quip than VDV.
However they come up with it I couldn't care less, it's as close as an official tourney XI as you'll find being that they put it on the official FIFA WC website
Judging players off of performances in single elimination international tournaments will always be idiotic when they have wider bodies of work available for their clubs.
Also funny seeing you so hung up over 'ex-pro panel' selections yet dismissing the ex-pros and internationals who don't rate Maguire, curious
So the answer is no.
feck me. That was a system designed by a fecking petrol company which uses mathematical formulas which evaluate various player performance in terms of how individual actions either assist or prevent goals.
The UEFA team of the tournament is selected by a panel of ex players.
So is VDV eligible to be on that panel?
How about Van Basten and Gullit?
Obviously. The ex pro and managers are asked to base their votes on the following:
To make their choice, they will focus on players who fulfil some or all of the following criteria:
- Exceptional skill in attack and/or defence
- Involvement in decisive actions in attack and/or defence
- Tactical maturity and efficiency throughout the game
- A positive attitude with regards to UEFA's Respect campaign
He isn't shit, just average. Sometimes he overperforms like in the 2nd half of last season though his form in that period has been widely exaggerated.
His England performances are irrelevant especially in a tournament where they had an easy draw and didn't face any elite attacking side.
His England performances are irrelevant especially in a tournament where they had an easy draw and didn't face any elite attacking side.
However they come up with it I couldn't care less, it's as close as an official tourney XI as you'll find being that they put it on the official FIFA WC website
You should give a feck though, one is like the Ballon d’Or, voted by ex players and managers/coaches, the other is a useless marketing gimmick from Castrol petrol that bases it’a mathematical model solely off silly criteria about involvements in goals.
Was
Maybe the bias of the English pundits have got you confused because he was rubbish, is rubbish.
Why would I need to watch the punditry when I stand behind them every week? He's been rubbish this season, but he is not rubbish, I think anyone with a basic understanding of the game rather than taking all their knowledge from FIFA 22 can see that.
He's 100% right, Maguire is horrific and I pray we can con some team to giving us at least half his fee back.
I don't actually play FIFA so you're wrong on that count. He's shit, you'd be hard pressed to find a non United fan to disagree.