Van der Vaart on Maguire "He's really sh*t"
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He’s not shit. Obviously. Currently one of the first names on the team-sheet (and a consistent top performer) at one of the strongest international teams in world football.
“He’s shit”
Only if you’re a wum or an idiot.
He's not worth the money we spent but that's not his fault, he's also proven for large periods to be a reliable solid defender for us like for a large part of last season, then was in the team of the tournament at the euro's, so he's nowhere near as bad as some claim here.
That said, yes he's had a god awful season so far. Him and Shaw have been well off it since the Euro's and especially since rushing back from injury Harry has gone to bits. I still believe he's good enough to come good again.
He is not shit obviously but England CB options arent that great. He is above average defender who went for insane money because we were desperate for CB
He's underrated in The Netherlands. Overrated on here. At least he was until the last couple of weeks.
Classless, but he's not wrong.
Van der Vaart is an irritating little twat.
(Just being honest and direct, like the Dutch).
(Just being honest and direct, like the Dutch).
Or maybe he's far enough away to tell the truth. Well not quite the truth but relative to his fee.
He's not that far above average, I'm not sure he's better than the Irish national centre halves and they are average.
There's that, and then there's the fact that cursing isn't frowned upon as much in Dutch as in English - this sort of thing would never be beeped away and no-one would apologize. So this isn't as strong as it sounds to English ears.
Van der Vaart is obviously saying this for effect though, as a kind of joke in response to the host's build-up. And Van der Vaart is also a very poor pundit, so better not to care too much for whatever he says.
This really doesn't need another thread - there's already a Maguire pile-on going on literally six topics down, just stick the Twitter-bait clips from random pundits in there.
He’s alright but has he ever set the world alight that we should hold him in such high regard? He’s Shawcross level for me if I’m honest and when he’s bad he’s worse than Titus Bramble.
Slightly harsh to call him shit but definitely wouldn’t see him at any other elite team.
He can’t control how much he is sold for, worth half his fee but that says more about Ed’s negotiating ability more than anything else.
He can’t control how much he is sold for, worth half his fee but that says more about Ed’s negotiating ability more than anything else.
Redknapp was a fool at the time but with hindsight, he looks like the Spurs of pundits. Useless.
I pretty much agree.
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? They reached the final of the Euros and the Semi-Final of the WC. That's pretty strong evidence to suggest they are.
Pundit gives unvarnished opinion on a player as part of his job. “Must have some weird obsession with Maguire”
A bit classless, even Keano wouldn't just call someone shit. He'd find a better way to say it and then call you shit in private to your face.
I swear he said this ages ago
People in this thread are looking at this from a British perspective (which is fair since the video is on Sky) but I'm pretty sure one of the main Dutch pundits (van Basten maybe) said Donny was not a good player.
So don't take it do personally and Maguire is welcome to disprove this perception based on his performances in the past 6 months.
So don't take it do personally and Maguire is welcome to disprove this perception based on his performances in the past 6 months.
Does this count as the ABU media? It's certainly worse than anything Souness ever said about Pogba.
Or is it only the ABU media when the hate is directed at a player who you've decided you like?
Cultural differences aside (stereotype: Dutch: direct, frank, in your face; Brits: contrived, stiff and going in circles ) van der Vaart is right.
Maguire has been a train wreck this season, and not good enough at not good enough at the highest levels previously (see his performances at last year’s final or semifinals)
I think Ralf Rangnick will not put up with his dithering on the ball, and his slowness of mind and action. I foresee a long time on the bench for lyin’ Harry.
Maguire has been a train wreck this season, and not good enough at not good enough at the highest levels previously (see his performances at last year’s final or semifinals)
I think Ralf Rangnick will not put up with his dithering on the ball, and his slowness of mind and action. I foresee a long time on the bench for lyin’ Harry.
Souness questions Pogba character. VDV is questioning Maguire talent. Not sure comparison is correct.
Redknapp says in there "for a big guy, he's quick"
This is the most anti-English forum of any English football club honestly, I wouldn't pay much attention.
He has a thing about United. Possibly since Ferguson passed on him back in the day and he ended up at Spurs.
Be interesting to see if Rangnick can get him up to scratch
It’s funny because it’s true!
Italy won the Euro's and they're pretty average with only 3-4 really good players.
Maguire to celebrate his next goal with a bike, spliff and prozzy
Being realistic about the relative strength of the England team is anti-English now?
While I agree about England being a really strong side, the centre of their defence is their weak spot and Maguire won't be there when the lads just a bit younger have a tiny bit more experience. England's midfield gives him a huge amount of cover. On performances this year he has been one of the worst centre-halves in the division. His fee, the absurd captaincy and our potential red faces keep him in our first XI, and that bizarrely backs up his England spot. He is the worst big-money signing we've made, at least with the other flops they had shown brilliance before. Maguire was solid for Leceister, just solid, he never showed enough to make him a pivotal CB at a club like United, and his performances in a red shirt have proven that. In my opinion, he's one of the worst CBs to make over 100 appearances for United.
Okay.