value signings on January

Keisuke Honda - a deep lying playmaker whose renowned for his workrate and technique. He moved to AC Milan on a free transfer

Radja Nainggolan - a hardworking defensive midfielder. Radja injects steel and workrate in any team. He signed with Roma on loan for 3m euros with a buying clause of around 7m

Feel free to add to more

Why would we need Honda? We already have enough problems to accomodate all our No.10 we have (Rooney and Kagawa) while Januzaj can do a good job there too. Also, Honda isn't as good as Shinji and he is even less versatile. In fact Honda isn't versatile at all, he can play only one position.

Haven't seen much of Nainggolan but is he really that good? I think that at the moment we need to sign a few first team quality players, not squad players. Our squad has amazing depth but we are short of quality on firs 11.
 
you do know Kagawa, Rooney and Januzaj are not deep-lying play makers in the slightest don't you? A deep lying play maker (although we don't have one) is probably most akin to a Carrick a few years ago
 
Is Honda a deep lying playmaker though? I always thought he was more offensively minded.
 
It's an example. The point being: Those players that are suggested earlier in the thread are suggested for a reason, and it's not got anything to do with FM, I'd wager.

It's a cheap putdown towards anyone who suggests prospective signings to accuse them of only having seen them on FM. You don't have to play FM to confidently suggest players that'd improve our CM options, which, for instance, the post directly above yours did.
Seriously, sort out the voices in your head.
 
Seriously, sort out the voices in your head.

Seriously, start arguing football, not Football Manager.

If you're going to do anything other than try to derail the thread: Who would you suggest we sign in January?
 
Seriously, start arguing football, not Football Manager.

If you're going to do anything other than try to derail the thread: Who would you suggest we sign in January?

I asked a simple question and the voices in your head have come up with all sorts of weird crap. Really, get a grip man.
 
I asked a simple question and the voices in your head have come up with all sorts of weird crap. Really, get a grip man.

I assume that's going to be your input to this thread, then, bar accusing people that actually contributes of only knowing players through FM.

Anyway, Coentrao is the one that really makes sense to me. Wants away, decent fee, would be an upgrade and could be a potentially very good solution long-term.

The central midfield position is still a worry, though. And possibly one of the winger spots as well until Nani's returning to some semblance of form.
 
Players whom I feel are realistic targets for United and value signings in Jan or June

- Gundogan (stalling on new contract, club cannot hold on to big stars)
- Lamela (unsettled at Spurs)
- Griezmann (too good for club)
- Banega (club not developing/progressing)
- Mata (not enough playing time, not favored by coach)
- Draxler (too good for club)
- Benteke (good player, shite supply at Villa, I'm thinking Dwight York II)
- Khedira (not enough playing time)
- Cambiasso (good player, Inter turning rubbish)
 
Players whom I feel are realistic targets for United and value signings in Jan or June

- Gundogan (stalling on new contract, club cannot hold on to big stars)
- Lamela (unsettled at Spurs)
- Griezmann (too good for club)
- Banega (club not developing/progressing)
- Mata (not enough playing time, not favored by coach)
- Draxler (too good for club)
- Benteke (good player, shite supply at Villa, I'm thinking Dwight York II)
- Khedira (not enough playing time)
- Cambiasso (good player, Inter turning rubbish)

I agree with this list. Unfortunately half these players become unavailable without Champions League football.
 
I assume that's going to be your input to this thread, then, bar accusing people that actually contributes of only knowing players through FM.

Anyway, Coentrao is the one that really makes sense to me. Wants away, decent fee, would be an upgrade and could be a potentially very good solution long-term.

The central midfield position is still a worry, though. And possibly one of the winger spots as well until Nani's returning to some semblance of form.

It was a question ffs. Did you fail the comprehension tests in English?
 
Players whom I feel are realistic targets for United and value signings in Jan or June

Please allow me a rebuttal on your value list...

- Gundogan (stalling on new contract, club cannot hold on to big stars) - Injured for the last god knows how many months. Dortmund won't sell in January
- Lamela (unsettled at Spurs) - Daniel Levy. More likely to go out on loan.
- Griezmann (too good for club) - Yeah maybe. But looks like PSG / Monaco are ahead for this lad.
- Banega (club not developing/progressing) - Nutter. Hugely talented but there's a reason why the top clubs haven't bought him despite availability.
- Mata (not enough playing time, not favored by coach) - Chelsea won't sell him to us like we wouldn't sell them Rooney.
- Draxler (too good for club) - Won't move before the summer. £40m release clause. Is that really value for a young lad?
- Benteke (good player, shite supply at Villa, I'm thinking Dwight York II) - Not United quality, and we really don't need a forward. There's about 9 at the club already.
- Khedira (not enough playing time) - fecked his knee. Back in the summer at the earliest.
- Cambiasso (good player, Inter turning rubbish) - He's older the Carrick. Why would we?
 
No room for possibly our most consistent player over the last 2 years?

Carrick has been dire so far this season, if he gets back in the form from last season I'd replace him with Fletcher, if he doesn't than he wouldn't be a sure starter for me (if I'd had the option of Banega and Fletcher).
 
Players whom I feel are realistic targets for United and value signings in Jan or June

- Gundogan (stalling on new contract, club cannot hold on to big stars)
- Lamela (unsettled at Spurs)
- Griezmann (too good for club)
- Banega (club not developing/progressing)
- Mata (not enough playing time, not favored by coach)
- Draxler (too good for club)
- Benteke (good player, shite supply at Villa, I'm thinking Dwight York II)
- Khedira (not enough playing time)
- Cambiasso (good player, Inter turning rubbish)

I'm a big Griezmann fan. He would be a good signing. Would like to look more into some other players there like Inigo Martinez and Ruben Pardo (might be too Cleverley-ish).

Every other player besides Lamela is a good shout. Something is wrong with him and his dad said he wasn't adjusting to England.
 
Carrick has been dire so far this season, if he gets back in the form from last season I'd replace him with Fletcher, if he doesn't than he wouldn't be a sure starter for me (if I'd had the option of Banega and Fletcher).


Bit harsh in my opinion. He's been playing next to a player who has done nothing nearly all season and hasn't been fully fit for large parts yet you'd rather have Fletcher in the team based on a couple good performances after missing over 2 years.
 
Players whom I feel are realistic targets for United and value signings in Jan or June

- Gundogan (stalling on new contract, club cannot hold on to big stars)
- Lamela (unsettled at Spurs)
- Griezmann (too good for club)
- Banega (club not developing/progressing)
- Mata (not enough playing time, not favored by coach)
- Draxler (too good for club)
- Benteke (good player, shite supply at Villa, I'm thinking Dwight York II)
- Khedira (not enough playing time)
- Cambiasso (good player, Inter turning rubbish)


Gundogan is worth at least an enquiry this month, even though he is 99% destined for Real in the summer.
Lamela hasn't proved he can adapt to the PL.
Griezmann I haven't seen enough of.
Banega, he's been around for years now, why isn't he at an elite club already? Makes me wonder.
Mata, would love him but it's only happening if we give them Rooney. No deal.
Draxler, yes would get him tomorrow. Costs £45m.
Benteke, we don't need a striker.
Khedira, he's got a long injury.
Cambiasso, he's finished at the top level.
 
Bit harsh in my opinion. He's been playing next to a player who has done nothing nearly all season and hasn't been fully fit for large parts yet you'd rather have Fletcher in the team based on a couple good performances after missing over 2 years.

I'd play whoever delivers the best performance and best pairs up on the midfield. If its Carrick then its Carrick if its somebody else then it is somebody else. Right now I feel Carrick slows down the play, is undecissive when he has the ball and doesn't add anything creatively. I would kill for the Carrick off last year, but given his current performances he shouldn't be the first name anymore on the team sheet. Starting positions should be merrit on current performance not on past performance or a player's name, when he plays poor (and he has for almost every game so far this season) he deserves the same treatment as others and if Fletcher (even after an absence of nearly 2 years) plays beter football and contributes more to the team than he should be played over Carrick until the situation changes. Its not like I'd banish him from the team, I'd use him as a sub and play him instead of Fletcher in lesser games until he shows on training and on the pitch that he is the beter player and contributes more (like he did last year). Everybody should get the same treatment, if you play shit poor football than you can't expect to be a sure starter (even if you have been for the last couple of years).