Its not their job to give a quarter, half or otherwise of the story. They are supposed to act as a check on political power which involves challenging guests to answer straight forward questions people may have about their policy positions. It wasn't Tapper's job to gleefully capitulate to pro-single payer talking points by having a casual chat with Ocasio about how awesome single pay would be if it was implemented. He is supposed to ask how she would overcome basic roadblocks of implementing such a policy. It is then her job to explain why she thinks he is mistaken and what the actual facts are according to her own approach. He lived up to his end of the bargain by asking the same old question every single payer advocate gets asked and she couldn't answer it with any credible detail.
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Its not their job to give a quarter, half or otherwise of the story. They are supposed to act as a check on political power which involves challenging guests to answer straight forward questions people may have about their policy positions. It wasn't Tapper's job to gleefully capitulate to pro-single payer talking points by having a casual chat with Ocasio about how awesome single pay would be if it was implemented. He is supposed to ask how she would overcome basic roadblocks of implementing such a policy. It is then her job to explain why she thinks he is mistaken and what the actual facts are according to her own approach. He lived up to his end of the bargain by asking the same old question every single payer advocate gets asked and she couldn't answer it with any credible detail.
He wasn’t asking her about basic roadblocks, he was deliberately ignoring a major part of the policy and allowing his viewers to come away misinformed if she failed to correct them. It is absolutely his job to inform viewers, not to mislead them.
As I said, there are plenty of tough questions that could be asked including about funding that don’t involve deliberate deception.
He certainly was not acting as a check on anyone.
He simply was either being completely disingenous or or a useless journalist. I think both as he is a corporate shill.
Then why didn't she "correct him" ? He allowed her to ramble extensively about whatever she wanted to say and she couldn't muster up a cogent response to his question.
So the viewers go away misinformed. Is that Tapper doing his job?
This is the RAWKish type response conservatives have been puking up for years because the so-called "liberal media" refused to frame narratives the way they wanted to. That's not how it works I'm afraid. If you only want propaganda and pure advocacy then check out TYT or Democracy Now.
you mean you don't understand what a journalist is?
It's not his job to untangle her inability to make her own case. He asked the questions and she failed to recalibrate the framing to advance her own case. Compare that to Sanders for example, who did a great job of setting things straight.
I'm fully aware what it is. I just don't get all butt hurt about things when my favorite cause isn't framed the way I'd like it to be when it gets challenged.
For gods sake man.
Hurt? what ? Because he was mean to litte Occasio?
Here is is a simple definition of what a Journalist is.
The journalist places the public good above all else and uses certain methods – the foundation of which is a discipline of verification – to gather and assess what he or she finds.
The public good is not to misinform them.
Which by design or not is what he was doing.
Which by design or not is what he was doing.
Again I think you misunderstand. Jerry Brown has no will to even try to create a universal healthcare solution. He has focused a tremendous amount of time and energy focusing on his fossil fuel burning train project.
A hypothetical different governor in 2010 might have spent his time and energy on a state wide universal health care solution
Regarding Kavanaugh
I'm curious how he would've raised the extra 400billion per year without getting voted out due to raising taxes too much
You seem to be getting very butt hurt
In 2010? Do you recall what the economy was like then?
Medicare is part of Payroll Taxes.
To fund medicare for all would involve Raising the Medicare portion which is funded by both Employer and Employee.
The Contra for these taxes would be that Employers do not have to provide Health Insurance and Employees would not have to purchase health Insurance.
But if we believe Health Care is a Fundamental Right then the discussion goes beyond the monetary discussion.
Of course there need to be rules and the implementation will not be a simple switch.
But as we know there needs to be a Will in the Legislature.
To fund medicare for all would involve Raising the Medicare portion which is funded by both Employer and Employee.
The Contra for these taxes would be that Employers do not have to provide Health Insurance and Employees would not have to purchase health Insurance.
But if we believe Health Care is a Fundamental Right then the discussion goes beyond the monetary discussion.
Of course there need to be rules and the implementation will not be a simple switch.
But as we know there needs to be a Will in the Legislature.
I'm fine thanks. And ultimately, I'm not the one who is squealing like a tortured cat because Tapper isn't gleefully promoting single payer.
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Which one of us is the cat?
And you apparently think journalism is only true when it agrees with your preferred framing.
Yes, you've nailed me there. Almost Tapperesque
This is good news
He didn’t just ask questions, he posed a deliberately misleading set of figures and allowed his viewers to believe them if his guest failed to fully correct them. His viewers literally came away less informed than they started, because he chose to play ‘gotcha!’ over trying to inform the audience.
in a nutshell.
I don't think he is incompetent tbh.
he is simply a corporate shill.
Ie. Not a journalist.
I miss Ted Koppel and Bill Moyers
A punch in the gut to the right wing dark money crowd. Probably wouldn't have happened if Kavanuagh was on the bench.
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/6487...-dark-money-as-new-report-unveils-some-donors
Why didn't she correct him ?
I like how you went through the troubles and intentionally didn't pick a pic of him in an Arse shirt
I wish I was such an accomplished troll... all down to laziness.
Huh I remember reading that Roberts had personally issued a stay some days back.
yeah.
They were pretty good.
I think many just take the easy route and sell out.
Just look at some of these so called News channels.
They are more entertainment.
I'm not including Fox btw.
wont say anything more on that.
Wow......that could wind up in an advert if this thing continues to escalate. Bad news for the Repubs.
Sure. Not well suited to an ill planned 70 billion dollar fossil fuel based infrastructure project.
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Completely normal behaviour.
Completely normal behaviour.
He's getting skeezier by the day
you know the hearing on Monday is going to be huge.
It's going to be fascinating seeing crusty old white men question a potential rape victim without appearing to be heartless partisan cnuts.
just watch Grassley and Hatch.