Unpopular opinion: Ronaldo will be a huge miss

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Pogue Mahone said:
Second Captains wading in on this too. Saying that Ronaldo off and Bruno as a false nine was the obvious response to the red card. Expecting a 36 year old who never presses/defends at the best of times to lead the line while even more isolated than usual was a bad call. That was a power play between a player and his manager and there was only ever one winner. Which is a worry.
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He literally had the best chance of the match second half and should have won the match for us.
 
TMDaines said:
He literally had the best chance of the match second half and should have won the match for us.
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Wonder if the real problem will be with Ronaldo wanting to win and Ole wanting to be nice and understanding.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Second Captains wading in on this too. Saying that Ronaldo off and Bruno as a false nine was the obvious response to the red card. Expecting a 36 year old who never presses/defends at the best of times to lead the line while even more isolated than usual was a bad call. That was a power play between a player and his manager and there was only ever one winner. Which is a worry.
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He should've played the 90 minutes. After all, Ronaldo can often win a match with a half chance. What we signaled to Young Boys is that we were scared to lose and that's what made them go rabid. Ronaldo shouldn't defend even when we went down to 10 men. After the first substitution we had a fully manned defence and midfield. We lost the game specifically because we set out to defend for more than two thirds of the match.
 
Brwned said:
The idea that we should be worried about Ronaldo upsetting Cavani is the really puzzling thing for me. They mostly do the same stuff and Ronaldo just does it better. There’s never been a period when that wasn’t true.
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Cavani offers more energy/pressing, better holdup and build up play. Ronaldo is better at literally everything else.
 
According to Allegri Ronaldo said to him he’s staying at Juventus and then things got messed up. I never wanted him to go like that way as I mentioned it many time here. So what I keep say is that he needs help which is clear to the eyes of football fans around the globe and Manchester United has a similar team to us, mostly youngers who want to show the world what they represent. He played one perfect game and one good game so far but I am not too sure this honey moon will last till the end. He will get frustrated and when he does that, him or the other 10 players go missing and that is when things go wrong. I have seen it on my own eyes for the last three seasons.
 
Barney Ronay in fine form today.

And yet it is clearly a weird move on a pure sporting level. United scored 83 league goals last season. Did anyone, anywhere look at that team and think: yes, not bad, but what they really need is a very old centre-forward? The final piece in this puzzle is a non-pressing poacher with a confusing personal gravity. Summon Fred. We are now complete.

But then signing Ronaldo was never about football, no matter how many times awed ex-pros tell us about his presence, his dessert trolley cachet, his “habits”. There is a mixture of off-field stuff in action here. For all the obvious branding talk and the heritage stuff United’s ownership basically signed Ronaldo because their fans were blockading the stadium in early summer.

Faced with this insurrection the club offered up Ronaldo in the style of a middle-aged CEO who buys his wife a Tiffany necklace six months after she discovered his texts to his secretary. Take the shiny thing. Don’t think about, you know, the other stuff.
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Fluffy rubbish. An ageing and injury prone Cavani was hailed as a revelation, after all of the same false criticism, yet a much more reliable and impactful Ronaldo makes no sense on a sporting level. Sure…
 
Yeah, I thought that article was about signing Van Persie from the first line. Because that was the last time we hit close to 80+ league goals.

Hard to take any of it seriously beyond that, really.
 
What an absolute shimmering twat, mistaking City's 83 goals with us, as he's either looked too lazily, or just thought he'd go with the lie.

Pathetic pointless article, when Ronaldo coming back to the Premier league has been the biggest story in about a decade or more.
Every club's fans will look forward to it, it's brought massive interest to an already high interest league.

Yet he's describing it as if it's a 50 year old Pele coming to America for a merchandise tour.
 
I'm going to get hated for this but I'll say it anyway.

The guy scores goals.

However we look slower and less fluid as a team compared to how we did with Cavani and the counter attacking half season of Martial.

I'm not complaining about him because I value his ability to put the ball in the back of the net - but I do think we play a bit slower and more tumescent way because we might at times miss a strikers ability to hold the ball up and bring someone in to play.
 
Bebestation said:
I'm going to get hated for this but I'll say it anyway.

The guy scores goals.

However we look slower and less fluid as a team compared to how we did with Cavani and the counter attacking half season of Martial.

I'm not complaining about him because I value his ability to put the ball in the back of the net - but I do think we play a bit slower and more tumescent way because we might at times miss a strikers ability to hold the ball up and bring someone in to play.
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This is the first time I’ve ever seen you criticize Ronaldo. You’re human after all :smirk:

cheers friend and best of luck this season
 
For the love of God I am not his biggest fan and I was definietly pissed when he made the transfer back in 09 but this thread is an embarressment. He is obviously a pro and I don't care the fashion of his 25 to 30 goals a season as long as they happen.
 
Bebestation said:
I'm going to get hated for this but I'll say it anyway.

The guy scores goals.

However we look slower and less fluid as a team compared to how we did with Cavani and the counter attacking half season of Martial.

I'm not complaining about him because I value his ability to put the ball in the back of the net - but I do think we play a bit slower and more tumescent way because we might at times miss a strikers ability to hold the ball up and bring someone in to play.
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I don’t think that’s Ronaldos fault tbh. His movement would demonstrate that we should be even quicker as even counter attacking martial could still be stagnant at times.

I generally think with him in the side combined with Greenwood has teams a lot more weary of pressing us higher up the pitch because of how devastating they can be. Especially with Pogba, Bruno and Shaw feeding them both. So they sit deeper which is always going to slow down the play.
 
The problem is the slow build up from the back and the poor midfield. Ronaldo is best in a fast attacking team. This team is not unless there is a counter attack on. liverpool would have suited him better, for example. I still think he will hit 20 prem goals though.
 
Rajma said:
1. His wages will stretch the frontier which agents will be able to explore when dealing with us over contract extensions in the future (we have seen this in the past already with Sanchez, Pogba, DDG). See Barca.

2. Non-existent defensive contributions will impact our shape and will put an immense pressure on our midfielders. Everyone could see the difference between Cavani and Martial last season and how it impacts our ability to press effectively from the front.

3. He can’t play with his back at all and do the hold-up as he only operates well in spaces since he’s not your classic #9.

4. In case he’ll be performing poorly Ole will shy away to change him due to his status and ego in order not to upset him, which will hinder our team.

I personally feel he’ll end up being a costly mistake for us (taking away the balance that Cavani brings) and Ole (will ultimately lose the job as a result) when you don’t look through the euphoria lenses. I may be underestimating Ronaldo greatly here but this is my feeling with respect to this transfer, having watched him play these last few seasons where he struggled to influence the games when he’s not scoring penalties or poaching goals are not on.

Can we do a poll on this?
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Now working well for you till now, is it?
 
Rajma said:
1. His wages will stretch the frontier which agents will be able to explore when dealing with us over contract extensions in the future (we have seen this in the past already with Sanchez, Pogba, DDG). See Barca.

2. Non-existent defensive contributions will impact our shape and will put an immense pressure on our midfielders. Everyone could see the difference between Cavani and Martial last season and how it impacts our ability to press effectively from the front.

3. He can’t play with his back at all and do the hold-up as he only operates well in spaces since he’s not your classic #9.

4. In case he’ll be performing poorly Ole will shy away to change him due to his status and ego in order not to upset him, which will hinder our team.

I personally feel he’ll end up being a costly mistake for us (taking away the balance that Cavani brings) and Ole (will ultimately lose the job as a result) when you don’t look through the euphoria lenses. I may be underestimating Ronaldo greatly here but this is my feeling with respect to this transfer, having watched him play these last few seasons where he struggled to influence the games when he’s not scoring penalties or poaching goals are not on.

Can we do a poll on this?
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Can you make a “United won’t win the league” thread please mate? Thanks.
 
Two goals off keepers' mistake and two through the keeper's legs. Meh, even Martial would've scored those 4 goals.

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Bebestation said:
I'm going to get hated for this but I'll say it anyway.

The guy scores goals.

However we look slower and less fluid as a team compared to how we did with Cavani and the counter attacking half season of Martial.

I'm not complaining about him because I value his ability to put the ball in the back of the net - but I do think we play a bit slower and more tumescent way because we might at times miss a strikers ability to hold the ball up and bring someone in to play.
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We only look fluid and fast when counter attacking, and as we well know that only works against teams who leave us space to counter attack into. Irrespective of whether Ronaldo is here or not.

I'll take a small drop in the speed of our counter attacking play in order to be able to score those tap ins against compact defences that normally we get nowhere near.
 
OP is right. Ronaldo will be a huge miss when he leaves.
 
NoLogo said:
His goals this season are the difference between us being still in the race in league and CL and us having a disaster of a season start.
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It's not like we would have played every match with 10 men if he didn't join this season.
 
I don’t thin he should start at 9 tbh. We’d be better with Cavani there and Ronaldo floating in off the left. It’d create space for him to attack.
 
Redlyn said:
It's not like we would have played every match with 10 men if he didn't join this season.
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Well no but I don't think there is any player in the squad who would have given us the same amount of goals, especially not the late ones. I love Cavani as well but when it comes to those important goals Ronaldo is still simply a class apart.
 
La Vecchia Signora said:
According to Allegri Ronaldo said to him he’s staying at Juventus and then things got messed up. I never wanted him to go like that way as I mentioned it many time here. So what I keep say is that he needs help which is clear to the eyes of football fans around the globe and Manchester United has a similar team to us, mostly youngers who want to show the world what they represent. He played one perfect game and one good game so far but I am not too sure this honey moon will last till the end. He will get frustrated and when he does that, him or the other 10 players go missing and that is when things go wrong. I have seen it on my own eyes for the last three seasons.
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Tbh I started to see and feel this. The caf laughed at the Chelsea fans warning us about Jose so I'd listen to you Juve fans.

Ronnie surely is a fantastic goal scorer but truth is aside from the goals he offers very little to the general play. I'd say he even has a negative effect on how the team currently work especially in the building phase and pressing.

And regarding how Greenwood has been behaving recently I'm really worry about the team's harmony as well. It's never a good thing for the team's harmony to give a certain player a privilege compare to his teammates. On one hand I understand Ronnie has earned that privilege because he scores goals and his status, his history. But on other hand I also understand why Greenwood may think if he scores too he could be given that same privilege. Or Rashford when he comes back, or someone else.

Imo Ole must solve this asap before things would escalate. Of course many here who worship Ronnie won't like what I say but I have to say what I really think.
 
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