VII said:
Interestingly,in the top 100 ,Hakkinen not in top 50
,come on there are a few drivers that didn't derserve to be ahead of himInterestingly,in the top 100 ,Hakkinen not in top 50
,come on there are a few drivers that didn't derserve to be ahead of himMelvinyeo said:Interestingly,in the top 100 ,Hakkinen not in top 50
Johnny Herbert
How many world champs does he have? Jacques Villeneuve 29 Also above Hakkinen. I'm a willaims man myself but dammit I could have won in that car that JV won the WC in.Top 5 in Fri qualifying:
1.Montoya
2.Barrichello
3.M.Schumacher
4.Da Matta
5.Raikkonen
Predictions for the race:
1.Montoya
2.Raikkonen
3.Barrichello
I just got a feeling that Ralf Schumacher will crash out his brother to help Montoya
1.Montoya
2.Barrichello
3.M.Schumacher
4.Da Matta
5.Raikkonen
Predictions for the race:
1.Montoya
2.Raikkonen
3.Barrichello
I just got a feeling that Ralf Schumacher will crash out his brother to help Montoya
Spa/Belgium is back for next season
I'm not aware that qualifying first is ever more important than winning races. Schumacher has much the better record in race wins.VII said:What record?
Senna's 65 pole positions out of 162 Grand Prix races against schumi's 50 out of 178? Or schumi the 1st 'winner' of a race in F1 history to be booed while collecting his 'winner's' trophy on the podium?
Anyway Fangio also won the championship 5 times, on his own, unlike...
Read my previous link. Senna achieved all his victories not only without his teammate pulling over again and again to let him win but even had to win quite a few against his teammate prost who's arguably better or at least on par with schumi & other F1 greats such as nelson piquet and nigel mansell.
Another good read.
http://autosport.net/items/senna/other/senna-vs-schumi.htm
One can argue that Schumy often had a lesser car than his rivals during his early Ferrari days and it was to his credit that he managed to win so many time despite not qualifying first. He regularly qualifies ahead of his team-mate.
You can't write off Schumy's wins just because Ferrari chose to run a different team tactics to McLaren used to, the fact is 9 times out of 10, Schumy is ahead of Barrichello anyway, and only very few race wins in his career was handed to him by his team mate.
As for your article, it was obvious that the author had putting Senna ahead in mind when he wrote it. It's simply biasness that he's put Senna ahead in techinical, consistency and will to win. IMO Schumy more than matches Senna in those categories.
Latest:Marc Gene the former Minardi man has replaced Ralf Schumacher for qualifying
Ralf reported a headache to the Williams team and that's the cause why he has missed out
M Schumacher got pole for the Italian GP but damn it was a very close call.Montoya just missed out by 0.051 sec and Barrichello got 3rd.Raikkonen got 4th .
.it was close.
the comentator was saying the whole tifosis was quiet when motor mouth montoya was fastest in the first 2 sector.
the comentator was saying the whole tifosis was quiet when motor mouth montoya was fastest in the first 2 sector.
Marc Gene will crash out one of Williams rival title contenders,what are the odds
Did you read my message or not? Fact is the Ferrari is often a lesser car in earlier seasons compared to Williams and McLaren and it's difficult to qualify first in lesser cars.VII said:It's not. But it shows who's the fastest driver.
I'm not sure how "many" Schumy's wins were handed to him on a plate, Austria last year and I can't think of another one...VII said:History shows that Senna spent a much longer period driving lesser cars.
Actually, I think you'd find it's Ferrari who wanted to run the team orders, not Schumacher. He was so far ahead last season he would have won it with or without that win in Austria.VII said:No matter how few, that makes him an unworthy Champion!
I think the fact that on the whole the English media dislikes the Germans may have something to do with that.VII said:I didn't write that! Senna can't win can he??
The fact is Schumacher has won the most races in the history of the sport and in a few weeks, he'd probably have won the most World Championships too.
Barrichello crashed out Montoya at turn 1, what are the odds?Melvinyeo said:
Cal said:Barrichello crashed out Montoya at turn 1, what are the odds?
Marc Gene will crash out Schumacher,trust me,they will use Gene as asub,not give him anything and they would have said,you crash him out or be sacked
Suzuka 1997 too Cal.
far more often the case is that Schumacher's teamates have given him a lower position or not challenged him late in races or sacrificed their own race to keep someone behind. Also, they run less spec on the cars and don't get priority over testing, parts or the spare car at Grand Prix. He also gets first call on pitstops during races.
All in all though, thats no more than what Senna had, although he bullied and fought people to get those benefits. Schumacher has these in his contract. Its unfair to compare Senna and Schumacher as they are both equally full of shite. Successful though, so that must be what it takes.
far more often the case is that Schumacher's teamates have given him a lower position or not challenged him late in races or sacrificed their own race to keep someone behind. Also, they run less spec on the cars and don't get priority over testing, parts or the spare car at Grand Prix. He also gets first call on pitstops during races.
All in all though, thats no more than what Senna had, although he bullied and fought people to get those benefits. Schumacher has these in his contract. Its unfair to compare Senna and Schumacher as they are both equally full of shite. Successful though, so that must be what it takes.
Exciting race(But not exciting for Kimi tho ),MSchumaxcher into the pits,when everyone gets the pitstops done:
1.Schumacher
2.Montoya
3.Barrichello
4.Kimi
feck,thought the guy coming out ahead of Schumacher was JPM
),MSchumaxcher into the pits,when everyone gets the pitstops done:1.Schumacher
2.Montoya
3.Barrichello
4.Kimi
feck,thought the guy coming out ahead of Schumacher was JPM
Seems like Schumacher's winning it
COME ON KIMI!On the tail of Barrichello!
COME ON KIMI!On the tail of Barrichello!
Schumacher wins in Italy
certianly this build up nicely for the final race.
shame coulthard car didn't hold out long.
shame coulthard car didn't hold out long.
A bit of a boring race but I'm glad that Schumacher is back in winning form. The US Grand Prix is very similar to Monza so Schumy should still have an advantage.
Cal said:A bit of a boring race but I'm glad that Schumacher is back in winning form. The US Grand Prix is very similar to Monza so Schumy should still have an advantage.
Michelin should be able to test their new tyre properly and hopefully Kimi,Mclaren and Williams will be able to comeback against Schumacher.
UP KIMI!
US qualifying tomorrow,predictions for the race:
1.Kimi
2.DC
3.Barrichello
1.Kimi
2.DC
3.Barrichello
Predictions for the race:
1. M Schumacher
2. R Schumacher
3. Kimi Raikonnen
.
.
6. JP Montoya
It's be all over in the States... even if it isn't as long as Schumi comes out of the weekend within 1pt of the leader, it's his title to win. His record in Japan is phenomenal and the circuit suits Ferrari more than the rivals...
1. M Schumacher
2. R Schumacher
3. Kimi Raikonnen
.
.
6. JP Montoya
It's be all over in the States... even if it isn't as long as Schumi comes out of the weekend within 1pt of the leader, it's his title to win. His record in Japan is phenomenal and the circuit suits Ferrari more than the rivals...
Cal said:
I think USA suits Williams more and they have tested the Michelin properly soI think JPM will win.Heart says Kimi,head says JPM
Doesn't really matter, as long as Schumi come out of the race within a point, it's his World Championship.Melvinyeo said:I think USA suits Williams more and they have tested the Michelin properly soI think JPM will win.Heart says Kimi,head says JPM
He's simply the best in Japan... no contest...
Pos No Driver Team Time
1 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:09.566
2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:09.835
3 14 Mark Webber Jaguar -Cosworth 1:10.081
4 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:10.222
5 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:10.372
6 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:10.450
7 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:10.556
8 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:10.736
9 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:10.756
10 17 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:11.847
11 21 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:11.949
12 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford 1:12.227
13 10 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber-Petronas 1:13.541
14 20 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:17.666
15 9 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Petronas 1:17.768
16 16 Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 1:18.547
17 12 Ralph Firman Jordan-Ford 1:19.383
18 15 Justin Wilson Jaguar -Cosworth 1:19.491
19 18 Nicolas Kiesa Minardi-Cosworth 1:21.973
20 19 Jos Verstappen Minardi-Cosworth No time
Kimi down in 9th ,btw Cal,Schumachere isn't doing so well
1 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:09.566
2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:09.835
3 14 Mark Webber Jaguar -Cosworth 1:10.081
4 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:10.222
5 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:10.372
6 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:10.450
7 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:10.556
8 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:10.736
9 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:10.756
10 17 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:11.847
11 21 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:11.949
12 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford 1:12.227
13 10 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber-Petronas 1:13.541
14 20 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:17.666
15 9 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Petronas 1:17.768
16 16 Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 1:18.547
17 12 Ralph Firman Jordan-Ford 1:19.383
18 15 Justin Wilson Jaguar -Cosworth 1:19.491
19 18 Nicolas Kiesa Minardi-Cosworth 1:21.973
20 19 Jos Verstappen Minardi-Cosworth No time
Kimi down in 9th
,btw Cal,Schumachere isn't doing so well If it rains for the race tomorrow, it'll turn the race in favour of Schumi...
Cal said:If it rains for the race tomorrow, it'll turn the race in favour of Schumi...
I m tipping Renault to spring a suprise
Hey Cal,Schumacher in 7th huh
And Kimi is on pole!!!!!!!!!!!!Yessssssss!
Perfect!
And Kimi is on pole!!!!!!!!!!!!Yessssssss!
Perfect!
Again, just shows that qualifying don't count for a lot nowadays...Melvinyeo said:Hey Cal,Schumacher in 7th huh
And Kimi is on pole!!!!!!!!!!!!Yessssssss!
Perfect!
Schumacher within a point of the title and given his record in Japan, it's a foregone conclusion.
Best Driver Ever!!
Cal said:Again, just shows that qualifying don't count for a lot nowadays...
Schumacher within a point of the title and given his record in Japan, it's a foregone conclusion.
Best Driver Ever!!
Have to say it was a brilliant win and the dream for Kimi is over
But next season,Kimi will come back stronger than ever so
Kimi will win the fecking title next year!
We'll see... I'm sure Ferrari and Bridgestone will have a busy Winter...Melvinyeo said:Have to say it was a brilliant win and the dream for Kimi is over
But next season,Kimi will come back stronger than ever so
Kimi will win the fecking title next year!
The tyres needs to be improved and I'm sure it will be before next season.
It's all M.Shumi's to lose now....damn!
Montoya had his race ruined by the penalty
He still has to finish in the points so we can but hope. Not that I can be arsed watching the borefest that is F1 these days.
Wibble said:
Actually,this is the most exciting season in years,possbly a three way tussle we haven't seen since the 1980s.And the most exciting since Hakkinen and Schumacher
And Kimi is gonna be the new Hakkinen
Melvinyeo said:Actually,this is the most exciting season in years,possbly a three way tussle we haven't seen since the 1980s.And the most exciting since Hakkinen and Schumacher
And Kimi is gonna be the new Hakkinen
Not saying much I'm afraid. And the only thing you can say for Hakkinen is that he isn't quite as boring as Schumacher.
And I'd prefer if it someone was the new ..... erm .... someone exciting.
Wibble said:
I think not a lot of teams are following Sauber's way,finding very young drivers and turning them into world-beaters,I think a lot of teams either go for a driver or a test driver who has experience in F1 or a rookie that has loads of experience in other racing series i.e Da Matta.In fact,even Sauber are turning whole thing around by hiring Fisichella and HHF or Heidfeld for next year's champonship.I am afraid you won't see anybody exciting or terribly new to this kind of pressure i.e Kimi in 01.Another problem is the granting of the superlicence by the FIA,which is very diificult to get if you don't have/have very little experience in the lower Formulas.
and finally: M. Schmi ist weltmeister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well..i mean.. 1 point is not that hard for schmi....
well..i mean.. 1 point is not that hard for schmi....
Melvinyeo said:
Actually both Germans are out at the ends of the season. Looks like they are bringing back Felipe Massa, though they may well be grooming him for a bigger team.
Amir said:
Massa is at Ferrari testing for them