United reportedly approached Nuno Mendes and have made a bid

I don't think people were opposed to Ten Hag bringing in players who had previously played for him on principle. The issue was that he was failing to account for whether the players he was bringing were of the required standard, and placing too much emphasis on players he'd worked with in the past.

Nuno Mendes is one of the highest performing left-backs in world football from an attacking perspective, and we are in dire need of an elite attacking left-back. If you were to pick any player on the planet to fill the gap we have at left wing-back right now, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Nuno Mendes would be near the top of the list. That'd be true even if Amorim wasn't the coach.
Highest performing at what level.....for PSG in the French league?
 
There's a bit of a difference from signing shite like Antony and Martinez who we didn't need nor are suitable to the PL, to signing a quality wing back who we're desperate for and who plays for one of the best teams in Europe
Actually we did need someone in the mould of Antony. Losing MG forced our hand to sign a left footed RW. Nobody can predict what players are going to be like in a new league at a new club.
 
I think a young player with quality like Mendes fits the recruitment teams profile with or without Amorim...
Fair point. The only other downside to this is would we be signing another player that spends most of his time in the medical room?
 
Know nothing about him and unlike others, not going to pretend that I do. I think people use injury prone too loosely, players get injured unless you are Bruno. The best players in this league have had periods on the sideline. Would you call Saka injury prone?
 
I have only seen him in a couple of CL games and thought he was a machine. Really athletic and good at attacking too.
 

I've not watched much of Mendes, apart from the tie against Dortmund. Sancho had him on toast in both legs too iirc.

Sancho is a talented player and played well but Mendes looked like someone that is an average defender.
 
I’m more than happy that we’re aiming for Mendes not Kerkez because I think Nuno Mendes is more suitable as wingback than Kerkez, while Kerkez is better as left back. When I look at someone like Quenda, Catamo, and Araujo as his wingback samples, the samples suggest that Amorim’s wingback need to be explosive and capable to take his man. Kerkez’s take on attempted is relatively low, which is 1.03 per 90 mins and only 0.42 successful. Nuno Mendes has more attempted (2.82) and succeeded (1.75). But this stats is based on Kerkez playing in a tougher league, while Mendes playing in Ligue 1 and Champions league so it’s not a strong argument to say Mendes would be the right wingback for Amorim.
 
Actually we did need someone in the mould of Antony. Losing MG forced our hand to sign a left footed RW. Nobody can predict what players are going to be like in a new league at a new club.
I think it wasn't too hard to see that Antony had no outstanding attributes and was too slow and weak for the league, or that signing a centre back that is short, weak and slow might not work out
 
I'll be honest, I have never seen him play but if he can improve us in any way, not made of glass, available for a good price and our scouts have done their due diligence...then get him in here.
 
I think it wasn't too hard to see that Antony had no outstanding attributes and was too slow and weak for the league, or that signing a centre back that is short, weak and slow might not work out
Antony certainly isn't too slow or weak. He's actually very strong and can hold his own more than most. His problem is his decision making and creativity - and he's improved in the former this season.
 
Fair point. The only other downside to this is would we be signing another player that spends most of his time in the medical room?
Now that's a genuine concern, yes
 
I think it wasn't too hard to see that Antony had no outstanding attributes and was too slow and weak for the league, or that signing a centre back that is short, weak and slow might not work out
Martinez was our best CB in his first season. And still is one of the best with ball at his feet. And Brazilians are hit and miss when it comes to playing in the prem… some can handle it, some can’t.
 
Despite most in here saying this shouldn't be happening with a new footballing structure in place....

The contradictory manner people go about their opinions on here is hilarious.
Mehhh

I mean Mendes is one of the best young wing backs in the world. We need a wingback on the left. It’s key to the system.

If he’s available are you saying we shouldn’t sign him purely because he’s worked with Amorim before?
 
Highest performing at what level.....for PSG in the French league?
So what do you expect? Signing Real Madrid and Bayern Munich players (which we moan about for other reasons)
 
Mehhh

I mean Mendes is one of the best young wing backs in the world. We need a wingback on the left. It’s key to the system.

If he’s available are you saying we shouldn’t sign him purely because he’s worked with Amorim before?
Nope, I'm saying people wanting to sign him because the manager wants him are contradictory as majority on here were dismissive of EtH for doing the same.
Also, he isn't one of the best in his position for me, but that's a different argument entirely!
 
Despite most in here saying this shouldn't be happening with a new footballing structure in place....

The contradictory manner people go about their opinions on here is hilarious.
As stated before Mendes fits the bill for the new structure with or without Amorim. Young, quality talent and of decent value given contract situation.

But do carry on with your hyperbole.
 
Addressing the Negatives: Nuno Mendes' Injury Record

Every potential signing has its drawbacks, and for Nuno Mendes, his injury record is a point of concern. Let’s analyze his injury history based on the provided data:

Key Injury Facts:
➡️ Missed 44 games in 22/23 due to a severe hamstring injury (287 days sidelined).
➡️ Additional muscle injuries that season cost him 8 games (48 days).
➡️ Lesser injuries include minor knocks, ankle injuries, and foot bruises, each causing small gaps in his availability during previous seasons.

What Does This Mean?
-
Mendes has been plagued by muscular injuries, particularly hamstring problems, which could raise questions about his physical robustness over a long, demanding Premier League season.
- The transition to England's high-intensity style may either exacerbate or resolve these issues depending on how he’s managed.

Mitigation Strategies:
➡️
A proper medical evaluation will be crucial to ensure these injuries are not recurring or indicative of deeper issues.
➡️ The Premier League’s demanding schedule may need clubs to rotate Mendes carefully and provide tailored training programs to avoid overuse injuries.

Context Matters:
-
Despite the setbacks, Mendes has shown resilience, returning strongly when fit and maintaining his elite performance levels.
- The lack of repetitive injuries before 22/23 indicates this might not be a chronic issue, but rather a one-off tough season.

Final Thoughts:

While injury concerns are valid, Mendes’ talent and potential outweigh the risks if managed properly. With Amorim’s familiarity with the player and the right medical team at Manchester United, Mendes could thrive and justify the investment.
 
Nope, I'm saying people wanting to sign him because the manager wants him are contradictory as majority on here were dismissive of EtH for doing the same.
Also, he isn't one of the best in his position for me, but that's a different argument entirely!
The new approach is to target younger players who we can get good value from (as well as being good players).

Mendes ticks all the boxes with or without Amorim if we are honest. 22 years old, bags of experience at top level, one of the top players in his position and available at a reduced price (a la De Ligt and Mazraoui)
 
I remember before he joined PSG, we were linked with him but apparently someone mentioned he’s more suitable playing as wingback than fullback. If that’s true, he’s going to fulfilling his potential in Amorim’s system.

I don’t know much about him as I don’t watch him enough closely. But everytime I watched PSG, this guy looks very quick. Too often I saw our wingbacks are scared of running past players when given big space because they had been coached to play inverted role and lack of pace to go past players (see below, and it’s not just Dalot, I had seen this from Malacia and Mazraoui). It’s so frustrating that they are incapable to exploit the space on the width when it was given. We need wingbacks who have good pace to exploit spaces and not scared to beat his man. Could it be this guy? Get Hakimi as well, while we’re at it.

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On PSG reddit, Fabrice Hawkins is on their good tier list for transfer (they have three tier list: bad, medium, and good). I think he’s a top tier source for French news.

PSG reddit actually put Romano as their medium tier.
Hakimi has a rape allegetion holding over him

On 3 March 2023, Hakimi was indicted by an investigating judge in Paris over an allegation of rape of a 24-year-old woman, and placed under judicial supervision.[82] He was banned from contacting his alleged victim but allowed to leave French territory.[83] Hakimi's lawyer, Fanny Colin, has stated that his client strongly denies these allegations.[84]
 
Luke is back after Christmas. He is a better player but always injured. We need a goal threat as priority
Going forward it’s already clear that if Shaw stays he’s going to be a left sided centre back rather than a wing back which should do wonders on his brittle body as he won’t be expected to bomb up and down the flank.

If we’re going to loan Amass out then I’d also sign Alvaro as well so we’d have two options in Alvaro and Mendes which at their ages plus Amass means we’d have left wing back potentially sewn up for years going forward.
 
Hakimi has a rape allegetion holding over him

On 3 March 2023, Hakimi was indicted by an investigating judge in Paris over an allegation of rape of a 24-year-old woman, and placed under judicial supervision.[82] He was banned from contacting his alleged victim but allowed to leave French territory.[83] Hakimi's lawyer, Fanny Colin, has stated that his client strongly denies these allegations.[84]
I haven’t been up to date, it’s almost 2 years since the allegation, is the case closed?
 
Addressing the Negatives: Nuno Mendes' Injury Record

Every potential signing has its drawbacks, and for Nuno Mendes, his injury record is a point of concern. Let’s analyze his injury history based on the provided data:


Key Injury Facts:
➡️ Missed 44 games in 22/23 due to a severe hamstring injury (287 days sidelined).
➡️ Additional muscle injuries that season cost him 8 games (48 days).
➡️ Lesser injuries include minor knocks, ankle injuries, and foot bruises, each causing small gaps in his availability during previous seasons.

What Does This Mean?
-
Mendes has been plagued by muscular injuries, particularly hamstring problems, which could raise questions about his physical robustness over a long, demanding Premier League season.
- The transition to England's high-intensity style may either exacerbate or resolve these issues depending on how he’s managed.

Mitigation Strategies:
➡️
A proper medical evaluation will be crucial to ensure these injuries are not recurring or indicative of deeper issues.
➡️ The Premier League’s demanding schedule may need clubs to rotate Mendes carefully and provide tailored training programs to avoid overuse injuries.

Context Matters:
-
Despite the setbacks, Mendes has shown resilience, returning strongly when fit and maintaining his elite performance levels.
- The lack of repetitive injuries before 22/23 indicates this might not be a chronic issue, but rather a one-off tough season.

Final Thoughts:
While injury concerns are valid, Mendes’ talent and potential outweigh the risks if managed properly. With Amorim’s familiarity with the player and the right medical team at Manchester United, Mendes could thrive and justify the investment.
His injury is concerned. But I wouldn’t stop buying another LWB even if we sign Mendes this January because Malacia ain’t good enough as LWB so I’m hoping in the summer we sign 2nd LWB for backup or rotation.
 
We have what would seem the worst medical team in the league so taking a punt on an injury prone players feels like déjà vu all over again. No matter how skilful this lad is, I’d stay clear. We’ve been burnt many times…
 
We have what would seem the worst medical team in the league so taking a punt on an injury prone players feels like déjà vu all over again. No matter how skilful this lad is, I’d stay clear. We’ve been burnt many times…
I get the concern.
Everyone was concerned about Mazraoui labeling him injury prone but he has been holding out pretty well.
 
I have only seen him in a couple of CL games and thought he was a machine. Really athletic and good at attacking too.

Absolutely. I notice him every time I watch Portugal (which is most games) - he's terrific.
 
Fantastic (said in Ole accent) news a LWB is much needed! you could argue it's the largest gap in the squad, so it needs filling asap.

Only question I would have is how does he compare with Alvaro Fernandez.
 
If it’s true he’d be an incredible signing - I previously didn’t think he was an option.
 
Getting him and Fernandez (who we have a buy back clause for) & rotating them would fix the LWB problem for the very long term i guess. Getting a RWB like Frimpong in the future as well would make us very strong in those positions.

Just a matter of money & questioning who wants to step into a hornets nest like United currently if they have other options..
 
Addressing the Negatives: Nuno Mendes' Injury Record

Every potential signing has its drawbacks, and for Nuno Mendes, his injury record is a point of concern. Let’s analyze his injury history based on the provided data:


Key Injury Facts:
➡️ Missed 44 games in 22/23 due to a severe hamstring injury (287 days sidelined).
➡️ Additional muscle injuries that season cost him 8 games (48 days).
➡️ Lesser injuries include minor knocks, ankle injuries, and foot bruises, each causing small gaps in his availability during previous seasons.

What Does This Mean?
-
Mendes has been plagued by muscular injuries, particularly hamstring problems, which could raise questions about his physical robustness over a long, demanding Premier League season.
- The transition to England's high-intensity style may either exacerbate or resolve these issues depending on how he’s managed.

Mitigation Strategies:
➡️
A proper medical evaluation will be crucial to ensure these injuries are not recurring or indicative of deeper issues.
➡️ The Premier League’s demanding schedule may need clubs to rotate Mendes carefully and provide tailored training programs to avoid overuse injuries.

Context Matters:
-
Despite the setbacks, Mendes has shown resilience, returning strongly when fit and maintaining his elite performance levels.
- The lack of repetitive injuries before 22/23 indicates this might not be a chronic issue, but rather a one-off tough season.

Final Thoughts:
While injury concerns are valid, Mendes’ talent and potential outweigh the risks if managed properly. With Amorim’s familiarity with the player and the right medical team at Manchester United, Mendes could thrive and justify the investment.
Either this post was generated by AI, or we’re now mimicking the robots
 
It’s an exciting link but I’m not getting my hopes up. I’m not sure how we’re going to be able to sign anyone in January given our current financial situation unless we move a couple of players on for decent fees, and considering how they’ve performed so far this season there certainly isn’t going to be clubs queuing up ready to throw money at us for them. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see but all we’ve heard from journalists in the lead up to this window is how close we are to FFP limits and to expect a very quiet month.
 
It would but since this system requires a lot of crosses also, we need a ST to get on the end of them.
Yeah in all honesty we need a lot, but it's going to have to be done piece by piece.

Although my faith in Hojlund has dropped off considerably we still haven't seen him play in a team that creates a lot of chances. His all round game isn't impressive though.
 
Today is the first day I’ve seen mentioned that the reason he is unhappy with PSG is due to the contract he has been offered. Last week it was all he wasn’t signing because he wants a change and there are many clubs interested and now it could very well just be a pay me more money kinda deal.

Personally think he would be a great bit of buisness for us depending on his price even better if this is part of a deal to shift Rashford to them.
 
A couple of issues. 1. Do we want to be going down the same route as signing players that have previously worked with the current manager, everyone hated ETH for it. And 2. I’ve seen people mention his injury record, do we want to sign yet another player that’s forever injured and especially in a position we desperately need someone to stay fit in.
The difference is none of ETHs previous club signings were in the top 5-7 players in their position. But Mendes is a top 5-7 left wing back in the world. Plus Amorim wants to play the same system he did at Sporting whereas ETH for some fecking reason said he can’t play the same system here. Amorim is being true to his word that he wants to play that way. So giving him what he wants will help LT.

If we get Mendes, we have two of his former players. Ideally I would like one more player from Sporting - Trincao/Goncalves. If we have a #10, a wingback and a midfielder it will increase the odds we have pull off his system quicker.
 
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Wingback is an insanely demanding position for which you need almost superhuman durability and powers of recovery; it's really not for the fragile or faint hearted. You do worry for an already injury prone player stepping up to the most intense and physically demanding league in the world in the most demanding position for physical extremes that there is.

Young, robust, athletically incredible and a stranger to the injury table, are prerequisites for me, then comes the talent and skill - it's the most improbable position to find crocks in due to its demands. Limits the pool tremendously.
That's why I don't get posters wanting Dalot to be sold. He just needs to play on his better side, which is not the left.
 
I saw the post above about the injury record. He seemed to have played very little football in the last 2 years - averaging around 1000 minutes per season.

Given that there are plenty of LWB candidates potentially available, I would hate to pursue one with a chequered fitness record.