Who’s behaving as if it is?
United Away Record | We've not won anything yet, waaaaaaah
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I don't know why you bother supporting a particular club, you might as well just support the team that is winning that year, you'd get to be happy and celebrate every year then. Better yet, just support the club that wins each final. Football doesn't matter other than that.
I and no one else on here is claiming it to be a trophy. It’s a stat and a damn decent one too.
I'm sorry but I don't. I know you can say we finished 2nd and that's a sign that we are making progress but I disagree strongly.
We lack quality & depth. We are also lacking leadership & organisation.
We lack quality & depth. We are also lacking leadership & organisation.
I bother because I have supported United through thick & thin for over 50 years. 11 managers!
It's a straw people are clutching a
Nonsense. It's a straw people are clutching.
It’s one of those stats that’s only worth mentioning if you correlate it with the other, equally important, half of the season, which doesn’t seem to be happening.
Title winning away form combined with 6th/7th place finishing home form is just the same as top 4 away form combined with top 4 home form; more likely a statistical anomaly than a sign of anything more fundamental. It’s as likely to be the same next season as it is to be the other way round.
Title winning away form combined with 6th/7th place finishing home form is just the same as top 4 away form combined with top 4 home form; more likely a statistical anomaly than a sign of anything more fundamental. It’s as likely to be the same next season as it is to be the other way round.
If it’s so easy because of no fans in the stadium, why didn’t the other 19 teams do it?
Of course a trophy would be better, but going unbeaten away is a small achievement that deserves a little recognition.
Of course a trophy would be better, but going unbeaten away is a small achievement that deserves a little recognition.
Its a bit embarrassing to be celebrating away records with no fans in the stadiums, there is no away form without fans, its silly. This is also why we were so poor at home, because we were playing without fans. Its the reason this season had more away wins than home wins for the first time in the history of the premier league, its a Covid season with no fans and stats like that shouldn't be compared to non covid seasons it makes us look small time to brag about it, lets be honest no one will take us seriously. Its a good stat but not comparable to other seasons.
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It's a nice stat, I dont see anyone celebrating that as if we won a trophy, not sure why few are getting their knickers in twist. It's just a fecking stat, just like how Bruno has scored most goals for a midfielders since XYZ years.
Great stat that. Shows resiliency. I'm not sure why people are scrutinizing that. Must be the internet.
What is the point in celebrating a brilliant goal? After all it is only a goal.
Not comparable at all.
Does losing 6 at home as well as drawing several games we were leading show resiliency? Or carelessness?
Or does it mean anything given that there were no fans present?
Is what you're doing at the moment support?
If you have been following United for as long as you say you have you'd also know things have been much worse than they are at the moment so ya know perspective
Yes lets us all use "poor home form" stick to beat a great away record.
They have. We were relegated. We have had all sorts of stuff happen in my time.
We were never deluded though. Supporting a club doesn't mean you toe the line and go along with whatever narrative is popular.
I'll say no more on this topic.
We level Arsenal's record if we're unbeaten against Southampton.
We're going to lose to Saints now ffs
Karma will bite us and a dive will prevent us from equalling.
Unless I'm getting my records mixed up.
Arsenal's Invicibles looked like they consist of 40 y.o dads playing football. Even the younger players looked like they had at least 2 kids.
We will lose to them. Only reason we’re close to this record is because there’s been no fans.
Nah, you're right. If we win or draw against Southampton we equal the record of Arsenal, if we then also win or draw against Wolves in a week we'll go past them to hold the record alone.
Though I'm sure oppo's will want to put a * on it due to playing with no fans for the majority of it. Which I wouldn't necessarily be against. As long as there's also a * on the scousers league title.
Nah, I don't believe that in the slightest.
oh well was fun while it lasted
That's that then. We'll lose to some James Ward Prowse set piece shithousery.
Nothing better than to break the record next week at Wolves. God, i hate that fixture.
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I might be in a minority here, but I think records are just as prestigious as trophies. Ideally, you want both, but the very definition of a record is "the best performance or most remarkable event of its kind that has been officially measured and noted". I see the words 'best' and 'remarkable', the same words that would be used to describe a champion.
Like trophies, some records are worth more than others, but there can't be any argument about the worth of this one. Every teams primary aim is to win every match (by extension, not losing), so if we do get it, it is very valid to say, no other team has been able to achieve this while giving it their best. It's something to be proud of.
There is also usually a new champion every year. Loads of teams have been champions. However, there is usually only one, or at most a handful of record holders. Case in point is Arsenal who have been mostly irrelevant recently, but their undefeated record is still remembered. An even greater case is Preston North End, I can't remember Sunderland, Everton, etc's trophies mentioned as much as that one season from PNE, despite probably no one here being alive for it.
Finally, and I'm not trying to insult anyone, but this feeling among some fans, that some things are small time and beneath them is cringeworthy. Newsflash, unless you actively contribute to the club as a player, or staff in some capacity, you have nothing to be so smug about. The fans of the "small teams" that you belittle could just as easily choose to support Manchester united or any other big club.
Like trophies, some records are worth more than others, but there can't be any argument about the worth of this one. Every teams primary aim is to win every match (by extension, not losing), so if we do get it, it is very valid to say, no other team has been able to achieve this while giving it their best. It's something to be proud of.
There is also usually a new champion every year. Loads of teams have been champions. However, there is usually only one, or at most a handful of record holders. Case in point is Arsenal who have been mostly irrelevant recently, but their undefeated record is still remembered. An even greater case is Preston North End, I can't remember Sunderland, Everton, etc's trophies mentioned as much as that one season from PNE, despite probably no one here being alive for it.
Finally, and I'm not trying to insult anyone, but this feeling among some fans, that some things are small time and beneath them is cringeworthy. Newsflash, unless you actively contribute to the club as a player, or staff in some capacity, you have nothing to be so smug about. The fans of the "small teams" that you belittle could just as easily choose to support Manchester united or any other big club.
Good post, very well said.
This post was too well-written and logical - one could even say good. Can you please find another site to write your posts in ?
No seriously - well put mate.They won it before end of March 20, before the end of the fans attendance. Cities should be a * if you are going down that road.
This. Really don't get the whole thing of there being no fans as the reason we went unbeaten, of course it will make it easier but still a very difficult thing we achieved last year, that nobody else could match.
Well I completely forgot about this. More nervous about Sunday now..
We got this. Souf 'ampton aint messing us up.
Great post. Fully agree.
Also, the smaller clubs form a very important part of the football ecosystem. Without them, Manchester United could not survive, or at least could not have become what the club is today. I fundamentally disagree with people who hold more modest clubs in contempt.