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Didn’t Burnley do a double on us last season?
No. We won Burnley away and lost at home.
Didn’t Burnley do a double on us last season?
Didn’t Burnley do a double on us last season?
That's usually how I prepare them before eating them.People still believe in jinxes ? I bet some of you lot still put teeth under your pillow
With fewer draws than them as well. Don't think enough attention has been on this. Incredible record and something to build on. Leeds, Villa and Wolves to play for the remaining games.
United haven't lost away to Burnley since 2009Didn’t Burnley do a double on us last season?
Can you share the source please?In regular seasons the there are upwards to 50% more home wins than away wins. This season has actually seen more away wins than home wins, so the effect of no fans is very clearly seen.
I would have thought this is pretty obvious. That's the whole point home and away, the fans in the stadium. Boosts the morale of the home team and demoralizes the visiting team. The bigger the stadium the bigger the effect.Even if we should get the record there will always be an asterisk to it due to Covid - and rightly so. In regular seasons the there are upwards to 50% more home wins than away wins. This season has actually seen more away wins than home wins, so the effect of no fans is very clearly seen.
That's not to take anything away from the performances. You can only beat what's in front of you and a prolonged unbeaten streak is of course always a good sign.
With fewer draws than them as well. Don't think enough attention has been on this. Incredible record and something to build on. Leeds, Villa and Wolves to play for the remaining games.
With fewer draws than them as well. Don't think enough attention has been on this. Incredible record and something to build on. Leeds, Villa and Wolves to play for the remaining games.
It's not the same situation without fans. So it's not really comparable dew to Covid-19. Away games don't have any of the characteristics that make them difficult without fans.
It's not as easy to win an away game at Anfield with fans compared to an empty stadium for example.
It was just an estimate. I looked at this site that shows away and home win% and had a quick scan through the last 10 premier league seasons and most seemed to between 40-70%. The highest was 99% more in 10/11; the lowest 35% in 15/16Can you share the source please?
We're going to lose to Villa now ffs
If we’re starting to worry about remaining unbeaten, then a loss could do us some good. One win and one loss better than two draws...We're going to lose to Villa now ffs
If we’re starting to worry about remaining unbeaten, then a loss could do us some good. One win and one loss better than two draws...
Our away record has been OK in 2021, but not anything that will get you near a title: ten matches, four wins, six draws, nine scored and three conceded. 11 sides have won as many away games as we have this year and we have played more matches than all of them.
No. We won Burnley away and lost at home.
That win at Burnley was when Rashford tackled the ball into the empty net after losing his balance wasn't it ?
Spot on mate. This goes to show that any record needs to be considered under its context. I would happily trade all our records post Fergie for one EPL title.If we’re starting to worry about remaining unbeaten, then a loss could do us some good. One win and one loss better than two draws...
Our away record has been OK in 2021, but not anything that will get you near a title: ten matches, four wins, six draws, nine scored and three conceded. 11 sides have won as many away games as we have this year and we have played more matches than all of them.
Well yeah, obviously.Spot on mate. This goes to show that any record needs to be considered under its context. I would happily trade all our records post Fergie for one EPL title.
So is it 1 or 2 games away now?
Don’t write it off like that, nobody else has done it if it’s that easyProud of the team but I don't think it should be counted vs past away records with no fans in the stands. I love they how they are picking up points away, but it's obviously not as hard this season.
The whole point is though that our recent away form isn’t that impressive. Literally 11/20 PL sides have won as many away games as we have this calendar year and we have played the most PL away games of anyone in that period.Don’t write it off like that, nobody else has done it if it’s that easy
Dunno how you work that one out. Last time I checked you get 0 points for a loss and 1 for a draw. A point is better than none.The whole point is though that our recent away form isn’t that impressive. Literally 11/20 PL sides have won as many away games as we have this calendar year and we have played the most PL away games of anyone in that period.
Going undefeated with 4 wins and 6 draws is worse than Chelsea’s 6 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss, Everton’s 5 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss or Liverpool’s 5 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses in the same period. None of those sides envy us or would swap their record for ours.
Draws are nearly as damaging as defeats in this era where the champions get 90+ points a season.
If you draw a match, you drop two-thirds of the point available. A win is worth three draws. A win and a loss is better than two draws.Dunno how you work that one out. Last time I checked you get 0 points for a loss and 1 for a draw. A point is better than none.
Unless your point is a win is better but... well yeah! Off course it is but city are doing an unbelievable job. That level of consistency we have to reach
If you draw a match, you drop two-thirds of the point available. A win is worth three draws. A win and a loss is better than two draws.
Because of three points for a win, going unbeaten for long stretches of league football is in complete vain, unless you are winning the vast majority of the matches.
We seem to be falling into the the trap that finishing the season with two draws in our last two away matches – and thereby being unbeaten – would be better than winning one and losing the other.
Fergie used to say if you lose more than 6 a season you wouldn’t be championsIf you draw a match, you drop two-thirds of the point available. A win is worth three draws. A win and a loss is better than two draws.
Because of three points for a win, going unbeaten for long stretches of league football is in complete vain, unless you are winning the vast majority of the matches.
We seem to be falling into the the trap that finishing the season with two draws in our last two away matches – and thereby being unbeaten – would be better than winning one and losing the other.
It appears notCan't we have one positive thread without it being invaded by the hordes of miserable cnuts?
Really? Then why not mention it in the OP, saying that the thread is extremely subjective and deeper looks at the context and the points earned/dropped during this "almost record" are of no importance. The invincibles won the league that season against Utd managed by SAF, while us even when looking through your extremely rose tinted glasses, have visually crumbled under pressure by losing our lead and dropping significantly behind in 4 weeks time. To me this "almost record" means sweet fook all. I still am not sure if we are going to finish second in the prem or win EL. Now I am calling you a deluded cnut. Hope you like it.Can't we have one positive thread without it being invaded by the hordes of miserable cnuts?
Really? Then why not mention it in the OP, saying that the thread is extremely subjective and deeper looks at the context and the points earned/dropped during this "almost record" are of no importance. The invincibles won the league that season against Utd managed by SAF, while us even when looking through your extremely rose tinted glasses, have visually crumbled under pressure by losing our lead and dropping significantly behind in 4 weeks time. To me this "almost record" means sweet fook all. I still am not sure if we are going to finish second in the prem or win EL. Now I am calling you a deluded cnut. Hope you like it.
Can't we have one positive thread without it being invaded by the hordes of miserable cnuts?
Can't we have one positive thread without it being invaded by the hordes of miserable cnuts?