All evening i've been listening about how United were fielding an "Understrength side", for the Maccabi game. What a load of bollox, most of the team were regulars. We should have used this game to rest Shcoles, Solksjaer, O'Shea, Silvestre+Nevilles , and to play the young lads from the start. We lost 3-0 to a bunch of nobodys. Those of you who will say,oh this game meant nothing and it wasn't the first team, are in for a rude awakening. Lets say it was a second string side, they should still be beating these teams, as they should every year in the League Cup against York city, etc. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by Ninja:
<strong>All evening i've been listening about how United were fielding an "Understrength side", for the Maccabi game. What a load of bollox, most of the team were regulars. We should have used this game to rest Shcoles, Solksjaer, O'Shea, Silvestre+Nevilles , and to play the young lads from the start. We lost 3-0 to a bunch of nobodys. Those of you who will say,oh this game meant nothing and it wasn't the first team, are in for a rude awakening. Lets say it was a second string side, they should still be beating these teams, as they should every year in the League Cup against York city, etc.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's not just that we were understrength(and we were) it's also that we all knew that the result didn't really matter - which means that the edge of the players game is missing. It's not a good result - and it wont help boost anyone's confidence - but if we play well against BL with Keane and Ruud back in the side I don't think any of us will care about tonight.
Originally posted by Ninja:
<strong>All evening i've been listening about how United were fielding an "Understrength side", for the Maccabi game. What a load of bollox, most of the team were regulars. We should have used this game to rest Shcoles, Solksjaer, O'Shea, Silvestre+Nevilles , and to play the young lads from the start. We lost 3-0 to a bunch of nobodys. Those of you who will say,oh this game meant nothing and it wasn't the first team, are in for a rude awakening. Lets say it was a second string side, they should still be beating these teams, as they should every year in the League Cup against York city, etc.
I guess you are saying we won't be getting far in the worthless cup this season!
Is that you Kwok..........Very few goalkeepers would have saved the first two goals.Some of the lads last night have never played in the Premier League,never mind the Champions League.Name the reserve`s from a few years ago who would have done any better.
I thought you'd have played a weaker side than that..
Good job you didn't tho eh?
You might have got hammered..
Good job you didn't tho eh?
You might have got hammered..
We should have played a weaker side.
tricky one, this. . .play too many youngsters and get walloped, their confidence takes a set-back.
as it is, the senior players such as the nevilles, ferdinand, scholes, forlan and solskjaer have realised that they're a bit poo without keane, beckham and van nistelrooy.
as it is, the senior players such as the nevilles, ferdinand, scholes, forlan and solskjaer have realised that they're a bit poo without keane, beckham and van nistelrooy.
Frankly I'm not sure our first teamers weren't that bothered with this match. Haifa were and won deservedly. I hope they qualify for the UEFA Cup now - they've done well in their first season in CL football. I don't think much should be read into this result at all.
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(Edited to include an important couple of letters - the n and the t plus an apostrophe)
Haifa are a quality team, there's no getting away from it. We were lucky not to lose by 6 or 7.
Originally posted by Murt:
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Had they been arsed which thy wernt. Youll winnothing in football without effort, we lost, who cares?
Thats handy then..
"Go on Richardson, chance for a bit of experience for you...no one can be arsed mind"
The positives from last night:
Several players were rested
Several players just abck from injury got another 90 mins
Scholes is looking very sharp
Several youth players got a taste of the EPL
We did better than Leverkusen - and they had far more to play for
I've got a ticket to Leverkusen and now it might be a better game
3-0 flattered them, two of those goals were rocket mortens from right the blue, and the other was a pen - shit happens
My only personal disappointment was young Timms. I know he didnt get long but at the very least I've have liked him to be able to control a simple ball!
Several players were rested
Several players just abck from injury got another 90 mins
Scholes is looking very sharp
Several youth players got a taste of the EPL
We did better than Leverkusen - and they had far more to play for
I've got a ticket to Leverkusen and now it might be a better game
3-0 flattered them, two of those goals were rocket mortens from right the blue, and the other was a pen - shit happens
My only personal disappointment was young Timms. I know he didnt get long but at the very least I've have liked him to be able to control a simple ball!
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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pretty fair assessment.
i know the game was moot as you were already through, but the lack of depth must be a worry.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You know that I am right in footballing matters most of the time, you just don't want to ackowledge it when your team is being discussed..
As for the strenght in depth: Yes it is slightly worrying, it shouldn't be that hard to fix though, only aspect I find worrying is that this was evident already last season and the management didn't react during the summer. Wonder if there's a possibility that they're unable to analyze their own weaknessess. Can happen when you work for long in one place and let the heart do the thinking.
fair comment Davo, and no argument from me
Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
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You know that I am right in footballing matters most of the time, you just don't want to ackowledge it when your team is being discussed..
As for the strenght in depth: Yes it is slightly worrying, it shouldn't be that hard to fix though, only aspect I find worrying is that this was evident already last season and the management didn't react during the summer. Wonder if there's a possibility that they're unable to analyze their own weaknessess. Can happen when you work for long in one place and let the heart do the thinking.</strong><hr></blockquote>
i should have put the
It was a nothing match for us, so I don't put anything into the result personally - and it didn't surprise me. I might have been worried if they had outplayed us, but the fact is that 3-0 flattered them. Two fantastic goals though - all credit to them!
Any team without Barthez, Blanc, Brown, Beckham, Butt, Keano, Giggs and Ruud would have been very understrength, and suffered from it.
What team would Arsenal put out without:
Seaman
Keown
Cygan
Lundberg
Parlour
Vieira
Pirez
Henry
Or Liverpool without:
Dudek
Henchoz
Traore
Gerrard
Hamann
Murphy
Riise
Owen
Any team without Barthez, Blanc, Brown, Beckham, Butt, Keano, Giggs and Ruud would have been very understrength, and suffered from it.
What team would Arsenal put out without:
Seaman
Keown
Cygan
Lundberg
Parlour
Vieira
Pirez
Henry
Or Liverpool without:
Dudek
Henchoz
Traore
Gerrard
Hamann
Murphy
Riise
Owen
Lot's of bindippers here today. I wonder how many will show up tomorrow after Liverpool lose tonight. ? just a thought. O.K. United lost 3 - 0 to a very bad team. But we have already done enough to see us thru to the next round. After the draw I expected United to get 12 points from the first 4 matches and that is exactly what we have done. We are into the next round. Liverpool are not, at least not yet. So do not count your chicken before he hatches. If you get through then well done if not then "Shit happens".
Originally posted by Davo:
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You had your second choice keeper playing, how good he is I don't know?
3 of your regular back 4, and O'Shea who's rated as being potentially excellent...
First choice Scholes, Richardon who's the "new Ryan Giggs", and Neville and Fortune who are your second string squad players ( and who aren't good enough for that role IMO)
and your 2nd and 3rd choice strikers..
That team should be able to do a half decent job against a team like Haifa</strong><hr></blockquote>
you post a lot of posts for an ABU!
anyway.. we had players out of positions.. so i'm not surprised we didn't perform.. we had both Fortune and Richardson playing at the same time - for whatever the reason i do not know.
we lost to two superb goals.. i don't think even Dudek could have kept it out
forlan got a post (or was it the bar?)
anyway.. i don't understand the team from yesterday either.. but they did do a half decent job if you take away those 2 goals by Haifa the scoreline would have been a respectable 1-0 for this team IMO.
Originally posted by RUnited:
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you post a lot of posts for an ABU!
anyway.. we had players out of positions.. so i'm not surprised we didn't perform.. we had both Fortune and Richardson playing at the same time - for whatever the reason i do not know.
we lost to two superb goals.. i don't think even Dudek could have kept it out
forlan got a post (or was it the bar?)
anyway.. i don't understand the team from yesterday either.. but they did do a half decent job if you take away those 2 goals by Haifa the scoreline would have been a respectable 1-0 for this team IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why would you take away the 2 goals? Because they were good?
O'Shea was skinned for the first one..their player shouldn't have had so much space and time to shoot from there
Half decent job my arse...you were thrashed by a very average side
Haifa are in the European Champions League.That means they are a good team.Don`t know what all the fuss is about.
We are through.
The End.
We are through.
The End.