Most of them will stay and pay up (yielding more £££). Those that don't like it can feck off (and renounce British citizenship if we move to the the US IRS position). Tories protecting privileged rich people as usual.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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How I feel about politics at the minute
Plenty of countries dont have their own nukes, we're one of only a few. We don't need to be spending £3b a year on them at all.
If you want to spend £3b less on defence then that's a valid opinion, but cutting the most cost-effective part of defence spending does not make financial sense.
It may be morally or politically desirable, but financially it isn't.
It may be morally or politically desirable, but financially it isn't.
Trident isn't about not surrendering it's about being able to nuke back from an unknown ocean location after the country has been obliterated.
The other options are as a first strike weapon or to intimidate other countries
I think it's main purpose is to ensure we keep a place on the security council.
That said 100bn is not that much as less than £2k per person and presumably the system lasts circa 20 years so a couple of quid a week per person which is not that much in the grand scale of governmental spending
It could be precisely about that. The idea is deterrence of course, that it prevents you getting put in that position in the first place.
I'm not aware of any UK desire to carry out first strike or use trident as intimidation.
fecking Brummie Welsh bastards. Kind of jars with the Green's calls for restraint etc...
Not sure it will yield more. More I've thought about it, the more I think maybe it will be neutral. No-one knows. Few left after the bankers' bonus etc...but add in the egregious mansion tax and maybe there is a tipping point.
Either way, Labour is now trying to moralise and score points from situations or individuals it happily accepted while they were swelling government coffers in their 13 years in power.
That was Blair - this is about fair.
From Bliar to Milibandwagon...
Oh and note the Tory vote is slowly ticking up slowly on the above poll
This "they had 13 years in power to do that" line pisses me right off. Like, if you didn't do something the last time you were in power, despite completely different people now making up the leadership and decision-making parts of the party, that means you can absolutely never implement it in future. Never mind that we now live in a completely different economic situation where people at the bottom end have had to endure large drops in living standards and services, so it may now jar far more greatly with the public that extremely wealthy individuals can habitually escape tax due to sleight of hand. This is what happens when parties lose elections - they go and figure out how they can win back public support.
Ashcroft's also polled some more Labour/Tory marginals, interesting results:
Somewhat counter-intuitively, the ones with the highest spike in UKIP support are also the ones the Tories are doing best in.
Ashcroft's also polled some more Labour/Tory marginals, interesting results:
Somewhat counter-intuitively, the ones with the highest spike in UKIP support are also the ones the Tories are doing best in.
I'm talking economic policy and you know Balls was well in with Brown.This "they had 13 years in power to do that" line pisses me right off. Like, if you didn't do something the last time you were in power, despite completely different people now making up the leadership and decision-making parts of the party, that means you can absolutely never implement it in future. Never mind that we now live in a completely different economic situation where people at the bottom end have had to endure large drops in living standards and services, so it may now jar far more greatly with the public that extremely wealthy individuals can habitually escape tax due to sleight of hand. This is what happens when parties lose elections - they go and figure out how they can win back public support.
Ashcroft's also polled some more Labour/Tory marginals, interesting results:
Somewhat counter-intuitively, the ones with the highest spike in UKIP support are also the ones the Tories are doing best in.
Stupid question time:
For some reason I have received 2 polling cards - one at my current address (at which I have lived for 1.5 years), one at my hometown address.
Elections at current address:
For some reason I have received 2 polling cards - one at my current address (at which I have lived for 1.5 years), one at my hometown address.
Elections at current address:
- Election of Member of Parliament for [alpha]
- Election of Member of Parliament for [beta]
- Election of Councillor/s to [~beta]
- Election of Councillor/s to [~beta2]
Weird, when you registered for your new one it should have taken you off the roll of your old address. Have a gander at https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote and see if you can get it properly updated so you don't get arrested
I'm quite pragmatic about the non-dom question. If the treasury advise that abolishing the status would raise revenue then I would abolish it, if they say revenue would fall, then I wouldn't.
What I am suspicious of is that now a handful of extremely wealthy individuals might now donate millions to a party in order to buy themselves lower taxes. That's not democracy for me.
What I am suspicious of is that now a handful of extremely wealthy individuals might now donate millions to a party in order to buy themselves lower taxes. That's not democracy for me.
Did you register at your new council recently. Maybe the old council has not had the time to take you off the register yet.
Right thing to do would be to ignore the poll card from the old council (and the one from the new council as well in case you are planning to vote labour)
The one up there is just a few Tories coming out of the caf closet. More interesting will be the national ones - as far as I can see the Tory say little except 'macro economic' policy is playing very poorly v Ed's 'play fair' on NHS, tax etc pitch.Oh and note the Tory vote is slowly ticking up slowly on the above poll
Just vote Tory twice. Think of it as a form of national service.Weird, when you registered for your new one it should have taken you off the roll of your old address. Have a gander at https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote and see if you can get it properly updated so you don't get arrested
You said yourself that Ed is lightweight. We don't seem to have the political heavyweights we used to like Ken Clarke, Thatcher, Brown or, er, Robin Cook. I saw the latter at Edinburgh airport once. He really is a poison dwarf and he had some younger woman with him.
True. I can't think of any Labour. For the Tories Hague looked like progressing to fit, but now he's wimped off, and under a cloud to boot.
I'm a bit loathe to say it, but Farage or Salmond?
Ed's Mr Fair Play is going down well (note Tories have swiftly dropped personal attacks - I said last week it was counter productive). Dave's catenaccio is losing him the election, you simply can't win by doing nothing and being defensive.
No, you're thinking of beer bellies. That's a different thing.
A load of my Scottish friends are actually anti-Salmond. People listened to him tbf though. Farage is unbreakable.
Hard to break and already broken record.
What constituency are you in pete out of interest? Does your vote even count a jot?
50% are anti-Salmond, as lots were anti-Thatcher/Brown etc. He is a bit tenuous though, maybe we're just left with Farage.
For the thickies, that doesn't mean I actually support Farage, I'm merely assessing his status as a political figure.
He walked away from a plane crash. It was a messianic moment for racists.
He's not even an MP!
Neither is Boris!
His only policy is whenever he's asked a question to think of an increasingly tenuous link to the UE. If he's a political heavyweight, then feck this, man, just, feck this.
Hah. Forgot that happened.
It used to be Dulwich (marginal) but it was rejigged to West Norwood & Dulwich, which is solid Labour (as is most of London proper). Our standing MP Tessa Jowell is not up for re-election, which is a shame since you can talk to her without seeing the usual politician's calculation going on behind the eyes ('is this person important?', 'is this a good use of my precious time?', 'can I move on to someone more influential?').
Tories seem quite desperate with their new Trident attack line, trying anything to shift the polls.
Weird, when you registered for your new one it should have taken you off the roll of your old address. Have a gander at https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote and see if you can get it properly updated so you don't get arrested
Did you register at your new council recently. Maybe the old council has not had the time to take you off the register yet.
Right thing to do would be to ignore the poll card from the old council (and the one from the new council as well in case you are planning to vote labour)
So you're saying I should definitely vote twice? I'll do it!
Cheers anyway.
Trying to be objective here but the Tories have been a clusterfruck so far - should soon start playing out in the polls.
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You must have lived close to me then when I loved in London. I was in Herne Hill nr Brockwell Park.