U21s: Liverpool vs. Manchester United

I can't help, but be frustrated watching this. Feel like a simple lineup change would completely change that.
 
Surprise surprise James Weir with the equaliser. Always in the right place.
 
Beautiful long diagonal from Williams followed by a great cross from Riley. He's good on either side but I definitely want to see Joe on the right more often, his time at RB/RW in the u18s is what made me like him as a player initially.
 
McTominay quite clumsy in the challenge, not just tonight as well. Still think he's got his small kid mentality and hasn't adapted to his growth spurt which causes him to be overzealous. Not quite the weapon in the air that he could be yet either.
 
Redmond on for Januzaj. Joyce doesn't half love his late pointless substitutions.
 
Even with strange selections and players at different stages of fitness/form and what not, Joyce's teams sure show fight even when going gets tough.

More than can be sad for our first team under LVG.

I wonder how much a vocal manager on the sideline helps ?
 
He works hard and has knack of getting into right positions, but his touch and technical ability are mediocre at best.

I agree. His skill set serves him well at this level but his all-round game is still not near being good enough for him to really make it with us. Bit too similar to Lingard in style for my liking as well and I don't think we need too many of those types of players in the first team squad.
 
I agree. His skill set serves him well at this level but his all-round game is still not near being good enough for him to really make it with us. Bit too similar to Lingard in style for my liking as well and I don't think we need too many of those types of players in the first team squad.

Not to mention Lingard is actually a much better player than Weir.Weir can be useful though.Versatile and all that.
 
Not to mention Lingard is actually a much better player than Weir.Weir can be useful though.Versatile and all that.

Yeah true :lol:. I agree though Lingard is obviously the better player but there are too many similarities in their games for it to be worthwhile having Weir around IMO. Feel that in years to come he'll become a hindrance to more talented youngsters that are in the many positions he plays in.
 
Joyce is as much of an idiot as Van Gaal, what kind of a midfield is that. Why are Redmond and Poole on the bench. I have no word. No wonder this club going downhill, even the youth coaches idiots. Blind leading the blind.
This is such a poor and uninformed post that I genuinely thought it was sarcastic at first but after reading a couple of your other posts it seems you actually are that clueless
 
His improvement over last year has been very impressive, he has a good football brain and I think he will continue to develop so he might yet surprise you..
Not for me, just doesn't have the xfactor to make it. Serves a role at this level but not a first team player.
 
His improvement over last year has been very impressive, he has a good football brain and I think he will continue to develop so he might yet surprise you..
there is no chance he will make it in the first team of manchester fecking united. His only chance comes with the insane manager like Vangle who likes to give chance to limited players (Blackett, Weir, love) ahead of talented ones like Pereira/Januzaj/Varela. Weir might have chance to be a decent squad player for us but he hasnt got a potential to be anything special and we should always aim higher, squad players can be found anywhere and we already have them a lot. Lingard is an example of a player who is kinda similar to wier but with more ability. so why have another "average" player in a club that wants to win champions league every year. Still find it funny that someone as average as Weir can make bench ahead of Pereira let alone Adnan..
 
Weir has shown massive improvement this season and looks set for a good career but I still wouldn't put him ahead of Harrop let alone Januzaj/Pereira.

Riley is fantastic though and I would put him ahead of everyone but Varela at RB at the moment tbh although I accept that Darmian should be given more times.Defo should be ahead of Rojo at LB.Fullbacks that can attack are vital in this dire setup.
 
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This is such a poor and uninformed post that I genuinely thought it was sarcastic at first but after reading a couple of your other posts it seems you actually are that clueless

Yes absolutely, we played great, just like the first team setup. Let's us just develop players where we can find a slot to fit them in. This is how all top teams develop their players. Also Liverpool played players is various position that their players don't actually play. Love and sadiq playing as the attacking midfielders great, I wonder why we didn't, all that creativity and I'm the clueless one.
 
Yes absolutely, we played great, just like the first team setup. Let's us just develop players where we can find a slot to fit them in. This is how all top teams develop their players. Also Liverpool played players is various position that their players don't actually play. Love and sadiq playing as the attacking midfielders great, I wonder why we didn't, all that creativity and I'm the clueless one.
You think Warren Joyce who is one of the best underage managers the club has had is an idiot because he didn't play the players you want and say its the blind leading the blind. Joyce does a brilluant job year after year despite never being able to have a settled side and not even getting to have a lot of the players for training. For your information Redmond is only coming back from an injury and they don't want to overplay Poole because he's only 17. If you think it's a good idea to whine about Joyce who is the only manager at the club actually doing his job then yes you are clueless about underage football and the development of players which your nonsensical rant about players out of position further proves. Clubs often play players out of position in underage football to help them work on things because believe it or not it is about development not just winning
 
:lol: Rekt. Love was the only player who was actually out of position anyway.

not interested in the previous debate but was he? Januzaj was playing as a lone striker, i would call that out of position. McTominay when ever played this season was playing as a striker, yesterday he was in midfield. And we have El Fitouri who where ever he plays he is out of position :D
 
not interested in the previous debate but was he? Januzaj was playing as a lone striker, i would call that out of position. McTominay when ever played this season was playing as a striker, yesterday he was in midfield. And we have El Fitouri who where ever he plays he is out of position :D

Never seen McTominay play but based on last night, midfield wasn't a bad shout. Was careless at times but won a lot of battles and generally did well.
 
not interested in the previous debate but was he? Januzaj was playing as a lone striker, i would call that out of position. McTominay when ever played this season was playing as a striker, yesterday he was in midfield. And we have El Fitouri who where ever he plays he is out of position :D
Oh feck, forgot about Adnan. Tbf, there is no other striker to choose so not really Joyce's fault. As far as I know McTominay has always been a midfielder before and has only been playing up top like Adnan out of necessity. I won't disagree with you on El Fitouri. :lol:
 
Oh feck, forgot about Adnan. Tbf, there is no other striker to choose so not really Joyce's fault. As far as I know McTominay has always been a midfielder before and has only been playing up top like Adnan out of necessity. I won't disagree with you on El Fitouri. :lol:

im not saying Joyce was wrong playing players out of position but you can argue that there was more then one :)

Never seen McTominay play but based on last night, midfield wasn't a bad shout. Was careless at times but won a lot of battles and generally did well.

like limerick said, think he was a midfielder before but whenever i saw him this season he was playing up front, probably because he isnt very good on the ball. I was actually looking forward to seeing him play against Skrtel as his game play is basically to run like a madman and kick the shit out of everyone and then i saw him in midfield :(
 
im not saying Joyce was wrong playing players out of position but you can argue that there was more then one :)



like limerick said, think he was a midfielder before but whenever i saw him this season he was playing up front, probably because he isnt very good on the ball. I was actually looking forward to seeing him play against Skrtel as his game play is basically to run like a madman and kick the shit out of everyone and then i saw him in midfield :(

McTominay is a holding midfielder by heart.
 
You think Warren Joyce who is one of the best underage managers the club has had is an idiot because he didn't play the players you want and say its the blind leading the blind. Joyce does a brilluant job year after year despite never being able to have a settled side and not even getting to have a lot of the players for training. For your information Redmond is only coming back from an injury and they don't want to overplay Poole because he's only 17. If you think it's a good idea to whine about Joyce who is the only manager at the club actually doing his job then yes you are clueless about underage football and the development of players which your nonsensical rant about players out of position further proves. Clubs often play players out of position in underage football to help them work on things because believe it or not it is about development not just winning

Let's play all our players in every position possible after all he's doing that because it's what LVG wants, players to be ready for the first team yeah. This multifunctional bollocks has to stop, its just another way of saying your not good at any 1 position you play. Put players in their right position or decide which position is the best for said player and develop them in that position. It's no wonder players like Pereira are not developing at a quicker rate being shoe horned here, there and everywhere. I've watched reserves over the years consistently, Pereira has been at his best as a #8 and as an attacking midfielder in a midfield 3, why is he not being developed there? As for Joyce, the love in is over the top, he knows how to get players to work hard and that's about it, as for talent development psssh...
 
Let's play all our players in every position possible after all he's doing that because it's what LVG wants, players to be ready for the first team yeah. This multifunctional bollocks has to stop, its just another way of saying your not good at any 1 position you play. Put players in their right position or decide which position is the best for said player and develop them in that position. It's no wonder players like Pereira are not developing at a quicker rate being shoe horned here, there and everywhere. I've watched reserves over the years consistently, Pereira has been at his best as a #8 and as an attacking midfielder in a midfield 3, why is he not being developed there? As for Joyce, the love in is over the top, he knows how to get players to work hard and that's about it, as for talent development psssh...
So you've been watching the reserves for years yet you think players are only being played out of position because that's what VanGaal wants even though it was happening long before he even arrived at the club. Players have always been played in other positions in underage football in order to work on weaknesses because in reality the results don't actually matter very much which is something you seem unable to grasp but Joyce is developing players and consistently winning things with an ever changing team. If you can't see how much Joyce does for developing players then there's no point in replying to you
 
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not interested in the previous debate but was he? Januzaj was playing as a lone striker, i would call that out of position. McTominay when ever played this season was playing as a striker, yesterday he was in midfield. And we have El Fitouri who where ever he plays he is out of position :D
Januzaj has been playing as a striker pretty often the last few seasons. Think it's actually at Van Gaal's request.
 
Januzaj has been playing as a striker pretty often the last few seasons. Think it's actually at Van Gaal's request.

Blind is playing as a centerback the whole season, that doesnt mean he is one.....and from what i remember he only played as a striker when we played 352, playing a striker when you have a strike partner and the number 10 behind you has zero similarities to the lone striker role.
 
So you've been watching the reserves for years yet you think players are only being played out of position because that's what VanGaal wants even though it was happening long before he even arrived at the club. Players have always been played in other positions in underage football in order to work on weaknesses because in reality the results don't actually matter very much which is something you seem unable to grasp but Joyce is developing players and consistently winning things with an ever changing team. If you can't see how much Joyce does for developing players then there's no point in replying to you

Let's give him a medal for it, while we watch other talented players make it to the top and buy them.
 
Let's play all our players in every position possible after all he's doing that because it's what LVG wants, players to be ready for the first team yeah. This multifunctional bollocks has to stop, its just another way of saying your not good at any 1 position you play. Put players in their right position or decide which position is the best for said player and develop them in that position. It's no wonder players like Pereira are not developing at a quicker rate being shoe horned here, there and everywhere. I've watched reserves over the years consistently, Pereira has been at his best as a #8 and as an attacking midfielder in a midfield 3, why is he not being developed there? As for Joyce, the love in is over the top, he knows how to get players to work hard and that's about it, as for talent development psssh...

You very very clearly have no understanding, experience or concept of what development football is all about. I am embarrassed for you.