Irwin99
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Steady. Good workrate and aggression. His attitude always impresses me.How was he today?
Steady. Good workrate and aggression. His attitude always impresses me.How was he today?
I can’t remember a player who is, in my opinion, so finely poised between being either a world class talent who will be here for years or another above average youngster that will begin to fade and be gone within the next few years.
It's no coincidence we played much better after Malacia was taken off. Shaw was a much better outlet at LB and the opening goal says it all.He impressed me in the first few games he played but I haven't seen much improvement afterwards. I expect him to push Shaw for that's position, but he is not fighting from what I see. Shaw's improvement started after his arrival and I'm afraid that if he doesn't compete with Shaw, lethargy will set in once again. He needs more in his belly.
Yep. He sure seems like a product of his Dutch environment - he’s very good at manipulating his body and positioning himself to receive the ball in awkward areas of the ball and funnelling it away. Really does take care on the ball — he’s in the 94th percentile for passing accuracy for fullbacks across Europes top 5 leaguesNormally people seem to cite size and speed and physical attributes as signs of serious potential but in his case it's how good he is on the ball in tight spaces. Not sure I quite see the athleticism at full back that would get him to say an Evra level, but easy to see him here for 7 or 8 years and the last half of those battling with Shaw's replacement, with maybe a transitional year or 2 as clear starter if that replacement is in his early 20s and Malacia is at his peak, in say 2027 when when Shaw is turning 31 and Malacia is about to turn 27.
It's no coincidence we played much better after Malacia was taken off. Shaw was a much better outlet at LB and the opening goal says it all.
Yep. He sure seems like a product of his Dutch environment - he’s very good at manipulating his body and positioning himself to receive the ball in awkward areas of the ball and funnelling it away. Really does take care on the ball — he’s in the 94th percentile for passing accuracy for fullbacks across Europes top 5 leagues
Annoying how our two best ball playing fullbacks play on the same side!
The problem with Malacia is that he is physically too weak. Even he shows good technique in tight spaces, he can't bring the ball out of defence because he can't hold off opponents when tightly marked. He tried once in the first half, and got himself on the ground (without winning a foul).The coincidence was mostly the fact that Martinez came on. Not saying that if Malacia had stayed at LB, he would have given that perfect cross to Rashford but it's not that black and white.
On a separate note, after from the City game at Emptyhad, I don't think Martinez and Malacia have had much playing time together. Before that, they were playing very well in possession and passing wise.
Yes I said this in the match day thread and have been saying the same ever since he got here. His ball retention is really really good. Very underrated.
The problem with Malacia is that he is physically too weak. Even he shows good technique in tight spaces, he can't bring the ball out of defence because he can't hold off opponents when tightly marked. He tried once in the first half, and got himself on the ground (without winning a foul).
To be honest I'm quite surprised at the overwhelmingly positive comments here. For me (and the fanbase in my place) he's no more than an average squad player. His (lack of) physicality makes him struggle both offensively and defensively. Without Fred covering for him our left channel would have been wide open (reason why Fred won the POTM).
I agree Malacia is a safe passer and press resistant himself, but only to sacrifice the team's progression as a tradeoff. For 60 minutes against Leeds, we totally relied on the Dalot/Sancho combination and Maguire's hopeful long balls to move the ball forward, while the left channel was non-existent. If you carefully look at the stats, Malacia's progressive passes and carries are significantly lower than his peers.I agree he can do more with and without the ball, especially in attacking phases but you're doing a disservice to him by reducing his output to 'not being able to bringing the ball out of defence'. You're perhaps concentrating on the wrong things; as per the stat above, he's a very safe/capable passer and also press resistant. That's not to mention his defensive combative qualities. Maybe we will revisit this after the Barca game, although that's not really a fair test for any of our players considering the circumstances but let's see.
I agree Malacia is a safe passer and press resistant himself, but only to sacrifice the team's progression as a tradeoff. For 60 minutes against Leeds, we totally relied on the Dalot/Sancho combination and Maguire's hopeful long balls to move the ball forward, while the left channel was non-existent. If you carefully look at the stats, Malacia's progressive passes and carries are significantly lower than his peers.
In terms of defending, he's good at marking the opponents tight and preventing them to turn, but nothing else. He's weak in dealing with long balls over the top and obviously, he struggles against opponents with physical presence.
I know my criticism may look a bit over for a youngster just landing in the PL, but so as the positivity here. I have actually revisited this thread a few times and every time I'm surprised the notion hasn't changed.
The problem with Malacia is that he is physically too weak. Even he shows good technique in tight spaces, he can't bring the ball out of defence because he can't hold off opponents when tightly marked. He tried once in the first half, and got himself on the ground (without winning a foul).
To be honest I'm quite surprised at the overwhelmingly positive comments here. For me (and the fanbase in my place) he's no more than an average squad player. His (lack of) physicality makes him struggle both offensively and defensively. Without Fred covering for him our left channel would have been wide open (reason why Fred won the POTM).
He's miles better than Büttner.Better version of Williams. But not on a higher level than Büttner
Yep he certainly isn't any good and against city, I'm glad the guy who looked Malacia but wasn't, handled Mahrez really well.The problem with Malacia is that he is physically too weak. Even he shows good technique in tight spaces, he can't bring the ball out of defence because he can't hold off opponents when tightly marked. He tried once in the first half, and got himself on the ground (without winning a foul).
To be honest I'm quite surprised at the overwhelmingly positive comments here. For me (and the fanbase in my place) he's no more than an average squad player. His (lack of) physicality makes him struggle both offensively and defensively. Without Fred covering for him our left channel would have been wide open (reason why Fred won the POTM).
Both Malacia and Shaw are instructed to tuck into midfield, and also given the freedom to stay wide occassionally. Either way, Shaw is much better in progressing the ball. I understand it isn't a fair comparison given Malacia is still a youngster in his debut season, but again the difference has to be recognized and his weaknesses should not be simply looked away.I think something that's overlooked is that Shaw and Malacia play completely differently when we have the ball (and I'm fairly sure due to different instructions given by Ten Hag). Shaw tends to stay wide and overlaps when given the chance, while Malacia tucks into central midfield then underlaps (though less often - again I think due to being instructed to guard against counter attacks).
I think the differing instructions given is due to the manager playing to different players' strengths (both Dalot and Malacia usually tuck in because they're more effective there if they try to pass through the midfield, Shaw and Wan Bissaka stay wide because Shaw's better at bombing up outside and Wan Bissaka can't pass through the centre of the pitch. I hope Malacia can develop his game so that he can replicate what Shaw does, but right now I'm pretty sure he's under instructions to play differently because his ability to overlap & cross the ball isn't his main strength yet.
Look at the positions Dalot and Malacia were in when the CBs had the ball in the Leeds game, and contrast that with Shaw and Wan Bissaka later on, and you would probably come to the same conclusion that they've been told to play differently. (esp. Dalot vs Wan Bissaka - after Wan Bissaka came on, it was Salbiter who dropped back pretty much in line with the CBs, like what Dalot was doing when he was on the pitch, while Wan Bissaka had the license to push further forward to receive passes out of defense as opposed to initiating them).
Defensively, because of how tall he is, I think Malacia tries to deal with the 2nd ball as opposed to winning the 1st ball (like Shaw would), but I think he's pretty effective doing that . He doesn't always win the ball outright, but he hassles players enough that even if he's struggling, he gains enough time for others to help him out (as opposed to Shaw when not playing well, who could literally disappear on the left side of defense).