typical wenger sour grapes

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Arsene Wenger has told Manchester United they paid too much for Rio Ferdinand.

The Old Trafford club set a new British transfer record when they splashed out £30million on the England World Cup star.

United now have the three most expensive players in Britain along with Juan Sebastian Veron (£28m) and Ruud van Nistelrooy (£19m), but Wenger is adamant they have overpaid on Ferdinand.

He told The Standard: "They've bought a great player but they've paid a high price for him. I'd like to sign Rio Ferdinand but for £10m less.

"I'm not surprised that United have the three most expensive players in Britain. It reflects their financial strength. When you have a lot of money in your pocket you buy expensive. That's what they've done.

While Ferguson has spent £30million and Gerard Houllier at Liverpool has spent £19million in the close-season, Wenger has added only Pascal Cygan to his Double-winning squad.

But he is happy that last season's squad are good enough to defend their Premiership title despite a lack of reinforcements.

He said: "I think we can make a better job of defending it this time. I don't think the team we have now has reached its full potential."
 
wenger says nothing but the truth, there.

you overpaid because everyone knows how much money you have. . .what's wrong with that?

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Originally posted by DanishDevil:
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HERE U CAN HAVE HIM £20 million, do you want him gift wrapped or just in the penalty box??????


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The Arse could be rich too, if their marketing department wasn't on crack all the f*cking time...

yes, we're rich, and we're worth it.
 
Originally posted by DanishDevil:
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But £10 m for Rio?? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

he means 10mil less

but is he in love with our club or what?

we cant do anything without that prick having a comment to make

stick to your own club wenger
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He has a point. I think the money we spent on signing Rio was far to much. Silly money to be honest. 2 or 3 great players could have been signed for that money, strengthening all departments needed.
 
Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>He said: "I think we can make a better job of defending it this time. I don't think the team we have now has reached its full potential."</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think they will be lucky to be on such form as last year. They can only get worse, let alone Ljungberg and Pires being injured... <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
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wengers a bitter twat, but i agree with him on this one
 
sometimes life's like that.. if u want THE man, u need to pay the bucks; if u give peanuts, u get monkeys.. :p
 
20m 30m who cares. Its all monopoly to us. Every united supporter said we needed to make the defense more solid this move accomplishes it. Barring injuries this could be the best United side ever.
 
Originally posted by manufanatic:
<strong>20m 30m who cares. Its all monopoly to us. Every united supporter said we needed to make the defense more solid this move accomplishes it. Barring injuries this could be the best United side ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

We look strong in central defence now we have Rio. However we are still lacking:

*We have no decent cover on the right wing
*We have three centre-forwards (Ruud, Ole and Forlan) - one of which has never scored for United
*Our goalkeeper is unreliable.
*Last season our midfielders reguarly were played out of position (remember Scholes?)

Still confident about next season?
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Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
<strong>wenger says nothing but the truth, there.

you overpaid because everyone knows how much money you have. . .what's wrong with that?

:confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

How`s the bowyer transfer ;) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Originally posted by -Rob-:
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*We have no decent cover on the right wing
*We have three centre-forwards (Ruud, Ole and Forlan) - one of which has never scored for United
*Our goalkeeper is unreliable.
*Last season our midfielders reguarly were played out of position (remember Scholes?)

Still confident about next season?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, I'm still confident. If Sir Alex sees Chadwick as good right wing cover, who am I to argue? I agree we need four strikers, but I am confident Forlan would be class. As far as I am concerned, we have a world class goalkeeper and I trust him. As for our midielders, I trust the right combination will be achieved by Fergie and Quieroz.
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Wenger's a dick. Lets just see what he says once we win the Treble again.
 
Prices and 'value' are set according to many things, one of which is what return is expected.

For example, winning the Champions League is worth financially to us than Arsenal. We have a bigger fan base so there is a bigger difference between a successful and unsuccessful season for us than them. 20 million pounds to them is like 30 million to us.

I would also argue that our recent run of success means we have higher expectations. Last year we finished third in the league and lost in the semi finals in the European Cup. We call it a disaster. If Arsenal had done that they would have been disappointed but looked at the positives. (Would have been second but for last two games, lost on away goals after ten games unbeaten). Our board need to let the fans know that last year was not acceptable by recent United standards.

I also think it is pointless arguing about whether Rio is worth 30 million or 28 or 25 or whatever. The board knows what money we have and buy accordingly. I think they are too tight but I think as a fan not a shareholder, I see success on the pitch not the stock market.

In terms of 'value' did anyone buy a black market ticket for Barcelona 99? Do you feel upset that you paid over the odds? I doubt whether any United fan feels they didn't get value for money even if they paid twenty times face value.

Bottom line is - If Rio performs and we win things (and do't go bancrupt) he will be worth the money.
 
To the gumbies` mum, yes we know you are a Liverpool supporter but surely you have the modicum of intelligence (or then again, maybe not) to realise that when Arsene comes on with his usual claptrap (as opposed to occasional perceptive statements), Red Devils are going to pick apart Arsene`s frayed logic.

There is a lot wrong with Arsene`s lates whinge - in fact everything. Did Manchester United set the Rio Ferdinand price? Of course not.

Less was offered but Leeds (understandably) were going to hold Manchester United to ransom - Rio was wanted very badly by Leeds, he is their captain, and he has the potential to be a genuine world class player unlike the endless treadmill of pretenders to world class status that emerge from Anfield. A certain diver springs to mind.

Yes, Rio may be worth less but had Manchester United refused to pay more Rio would still be at Leeds. Manchester United`s status is such that other clubs will be able to hold it to ransom because of its spending power and prestige. Too bad Liverpool supporters will never experience being part of such a football club!

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And another thing - think back to all the speculation surrounding Sol Campbell (no, I`m not talking about Sol supposedly having it off with Steve Carr) and how he was supposed to have a `gentleman`s agreement` to join Manchester United after his contract expired.

Sol wanted to stay in London because he enjoys life there and Arsenal got a player who is very good. However, Arsene`s crowing about getting Sol must be soured by now by the fact that an even better defender than Sol, in fact the best young defender in England, has joined Manchester United.

Arsene would not be able to handle the fact that suddenly Manchester United are looking very good in defence, having captured Rio and were therefore lucky Sol turned down the chance to go to Old Trafford.

If Arsene were any more transparent, he`d be made of glass! :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
 
Everyone is entitles to there respective opinion in this case Arsene Wenger. The reality is that Arsenal would have loved to team Rio up with Sol Campbell, but they don't have the money. Remember they have a new stadium to finance.

At the end of the day when we winning things nobody will remember what we paid for this or that player. The same things were said about Cantona and look how that turned out he was the catalyst which we needed.
 
I can't believe he's got the nerve to open his mouth!!.
Richard Wright is going to Everton for £3.5m. Does that mean that Wenger paid almost twice what he was worth when he bought him for £6m 12 months ago?
What a cheeky twat!! :mad: :mad:
 
It doesn't matter what you lot spend on players, you aren't good enough anymore to take the title back from Arsenal. Liverpool might, but United no longer have what it takes. Rio alone won't help the defence, you've bought him and have precious little else to play alongside him.
 
so the Arse won last year, wopee f*cking doo.

will MU win this year? who knows, but having Rio can only boost our chances. it's about business. when things aren't going well, a company will have to spend and invest in making the business better.

30m for Rio isn't much in comparison to what MU make, and with such an addition will only help to ensure that MU will continue to make that money.
 
To shut up Wenger?

Opta stats

2001/02 Premiership
Rio Ferdinand Sol Campbell
31 Appearances (+ Subs) 29 (+ 2)
2790 Minutes on Pitch 2623
83 Tackles Attempted 51
80 Tackle Success Rate % 76
402 Total Clearances 339
24 Interceptions 11
30 Shots Blocked 19
0 Goals Scored 2
 
Originally posted by manufanatic:
<strong>20m 30m who cares. Its all monopoly to us. Every united supporter said we needed to make the defense more solid this move accomplishes it. Barring injuries this could be the best United side ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Without the best keeper in the world at the time - Schmeics, the best hole player - Cantona and the best CB pairing of the nineties - Bruce and Pallister, I don't know how you can claim this to be the best Utd side ever.
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Originally posted by Dumpstar:
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Without the best keeper in the world at the time - Schmeics, the best hole player - Cantona and the best CB pairing of the nineties - Bruce and Pallister, I don't know how you can claim this to be the best Utd side ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>


They've added one decent player, otherwise, this is essentially the same crap side that finished third last season. Forlan is pants, Veron is crap, the nevilles are crap, Laurent blank is ancient and crap, Barthez is crap, Scholes was bleedin hoorible in the world cup, not to mention he had a crap season, and Beckham is too scared to get tackled now, and had a subpar world cup.

United have only three decent players Rio, RVN, and Solskjear. Butt isn't bad I suppose. Anyone who thinks this is the best United side ever is delusional. LFC and AFC are superior.

PhillipVIII Woopee doo is not a really compelling argument. Arsenal won a double last year and did it with class. Wait til you watch United get off to another bad start.
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Stop taking drugs. They are bad for your health :p <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
They've added one decent player, otherwise, this is essentially the same crap side that finished third last season. Forlan is pants, Veron is crap, the nevilles are crap, Laurent blank is ancient and crap, Barthez is crap, Scholes was bleedin hoorible in the world cup, not to mention he had a crap season, and Beckham is too scared to get tackled now, and had a subpar world cup. <hr></blockquote>

And Arsenal players like Wiltord and Henry had a fantastic World CUp did they? :rolleyes:
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United are crap. Wiltord & Henry had brilliant seasons. Their world cup wasn't good, but Scholes was poor, following up a poor season, as well as Beckham & Veron.

Van Nistleroy had a dreadful world cup.
 
Originally posted by Sinful Male:
<strong>United are crap. Wiltord & Henry had brilliant seasons. Their world cup wasn't good, but Scholes was poor, following up a poor season, as well as Beckham & Veron.

Van Nistleroy had a dreadful world cup.</strong><hr></blockquote>

van nistelroy was not even in the world cup!!!!! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

the houlier smiley should be renamed to :wenger: from now on.

scholes,becks and even veron played much better than i cant score even if tried, wiltord, henry etc...... during the world cup.

fact is, is cygan good enough to replace Adams?????, if he is not then an injury to pensioner keown, would leave you in a 6-1 situation again, even without yorke.
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Originally posted by gulli_G:
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van nistelroy was not even in the world cup!!!!! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

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what a clown....
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Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>To the gumbies` mum, yes we know you are a Liverpool supporter but surely you have the modicum of intelligence (or then again, maybe not) to realise that when Arsene comes on with his usual claptrap (as opposed to occasional perceptive statements), Red Devils are going to pick apart Arsene`s frayed logic.

There is a lot wrong with Arsene`s lates whinge - in fact everything. Did Manchester United set the Rio Ferdinand price? Of course not.

Less was offered but Leeds (understandably) were going to hold Manchester United to ransom - Rio was wanted very badly by Leeds, he is their captain, and he has the potential to be a genuine world class player unlike the endless treadmill of pretenders to world class status that emerge from Anfield. A certain diver springs to mind.

Yes, Rio may be worth less but had Manchester United refused to pay more Rio would still be at Leeds. Manchester United`s status is such that other clubs will be able to hold it to ransom because of its spending power and prestige. Too bad Liverpool supporters will never experience being part of such a football club!

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wenger's absolutely right in this instance, giggsgirl. . .i don't see how you can argue with the statement he makes which is that he wouldn't have paid over £20M for ferdinand. he's quite right, you've been ripped off. you could've stuck to your guns and gone no higher than say, £22M, and leeds would eventually have had to take it. they need the money, pronto.

you can criticise wenger for paying over the odds for say, wiltord. . .but having just picked up the excellent pascal cygan for just £2.8M, he's bang on about you paying over the odds for rio in such a knackered market. . .
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what you don't understand is that rio first and foremost is 23 and british, cygan, ayala, nesta are not.

he is potentially the best as was stam when we bought him for a record fee.
 
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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wenger's absolutely right in this instance, giggsgirl. . .i don't see how you can argue with the statement he makes which is that he wouldn't have paid over £20M for ferdinand. he's quite right, you've been ripped off. you could've stuck to your guns and gone no higher than say, £22M, and leeds would eventually have had to take it. they need the money, pronto.

you can criticise wenger for paying over the odds for say, wiltord. . .but having just picked up the excellent pascal cygan for just £2.8M, he's bang on about you paying over the odds for rio in such a knackered market. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>

How anyone can say your paying over the odds when he hasn't kickd a ball I don't know...he could break his leg 2 wks in and never play again (not tempting fate)Likewise with him at the heart of the defence it is feasible that we won't lose all season ( common fate I dare ya). Of course it would have been preferable to have paid 15mil 20 mil for the guy but that weren't gonna happen. Bottom line is you'd love to have him playing for you as would arsenal. Simple fact is that neither of you are as big as United hence neither of you could afford him. The purchase serves to reinforce the fact that United operate on a much bigger level than there two closest rivals. This difference has been known for ages though Rio's move just puts an emphasis on it and comments like Wengers in my eyes show his jealousy and fear of another backlash after a blip season.

Talking of overspends I reckon heskey was bought for about 10.5 mil too much and if the signings you've made this summer prove to be as successful as the dazzling Camara ( not unlikely ) you probably won't be so quick to judge a players worth before a ball kicked.
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You clowns are really out of it. Van Nistlerooy won the golden boot and the world cup!! Fools!! He had a marvelous comeback, and redeemed himself bigtime for Brazil this time round.

Typical United supporters - don't know your football! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> :rolleyes:

....and as for gulli_g - hang on to that 6-1 victory, you have nothing else to gloat about, Arsenal thoroughly outclassed United and won the premiership by finishing 11 pts up on you lot. So go ahead, gloat about your 6-1 win 2 years ago, you lot are in far more pain this year having bowed out of the title race in disgraceful fashion. Arsenal are the champions & double winners, and proved to be leaps and bounds better than you lot. Baby want his bottle?
 
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