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2014-15 Performances

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SkeppyRed said:
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Blackett was a somewhat unknown commodity until this season. A quick look back at the Fryers threads on here would tell you he was highly rated by some and Spurs went to a-fair bit if bother to sign him. Seems Fryers was definitely more highly rated than Blackett.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Blackett was a somewhat unknown commodity until this season. A quick look back at the Fryers threads on here would tell you he was highly rated by some and Spurs went to a-fair bit if bother to sign him. Seems Fryers was definitely more highly rated than Blackett.
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Fryers is older than Blackett.

Fryers was highly rated in the U18s but so was Blackett.Saying him a somewhat unknown commodity is a bit strange.He did go to the pre-season under Fergie.
 
thought he did look okay for a young player thrown into a PL game, for the first few appearances of course.

lately he is getting even worse, and those hoofing are just so awful to watch. guess he is just getting his chance because he is left footed.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Blackett was a somewhat unknown commodity until this season. A quick look back at the Fryers threads on here would tell you he was highly rated by some and Spurs went to a-fair bit if bother to sign him. Seems Fryers was definitely more highly rated than Blackett.
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I remember when Fryers was leaving the threads all said it was no major loss as Blackett was the bigger prospect.
 
ricky-romeo said:
thought he did look okay for a young player thrown into a PL game, for the first few appearances of course.

lately he is getting even worse, and those hoofing are just so awful to watch. guess he is just getting his chance because he is left footed.
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There is something really wrong with him recently.Even by his usual standard that was just awful.
 
Remember when he was pretty decent in pre season and even going into the season a few games. He's 20 and he's having shite form. Shocker, that. Its not quite time to write him off.
 
Rykker_4united said:
Remember when he was pretty decent in pre season and even going into the season a few games. He's 20 and he's having shite form. Shocker, that. Its not quite time to write him off.
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He's having shocking form following on from not being a standout for the reserves. He's also playing for a new contract as his runs out at the end of the season and he had 3 very talented youngsters on his tail who will all be 18 next season and IMO should be at about his level by then with 3 years on him.
 
Pexbo said:
He's having shocking form following on from not being a standout for the reserves. He's also playing for a new contract as his runs out at the end of the season and he had 3 very talented youngsters on his tail who will all be 18 next season and IMO should be at about his level by then with 3 years on him.
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If your speaking of any of the u18 crop, none will be ready for the first team next season really. My point wasn't that Blackett should be in the team, but its too early to condemn him and tear his contract up.
 
Rykker_4united said:
If your speaking of any of the u18 crop, none will be ready for the first team next season really. My point wasn't that Blackett should be in the team, but its too early to condemn him and tear his contract up.
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I just don't see who it benefits. He's not a United player, he won't make it here and of that I'm certain and our defence will be strengthen significantly in the summer and it's unlikely the 4 or 5 first choice centrebacks will all be out injured again. By signing another contract all he is doing is delaying the inevitable and stalling his progress. There's no point in him being in the U21s when those three will be making that step up next season and if he's going to go on loan he might as well sign professional terms with another club and start his career as a first team footballer. At least that way he will get a first team wage at a mid table or below club and we will get compensation for him. Makes sense for all parties and the same goes for McNair. .
 
Pexbo said:
I just don't see who it benefits. He's not a United player, he won't make it here and of that I'm certain and our defence will be strengthen significantly in the summer and it's unlikely the 4 or 5 first choice centrebacks will all be out injured again. By signing another contract all he is doing is delaying the inevitable and stalling his progress. There's no point in him being in the U21s when those three will be making that step up next season and if he's going to go on loan he might as well sign professional terms with another club and start his career as a first team footballer. At least that way he will get a first team wage at a mid table or below club and we will get compensation for him. Makes sense for all parties and the same goes for McNair. .
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It's all due to LVG to decide if he will have a future with us (at least "short-term" future).If he said no then there's no way Blackett contract will be extended.Simple really.McNair will extend his contract for sure plus he's younger than Blackett.Don't think the number of CBs in first team squad next season will increase anyway since number isn't the problem.If there're one or two new signings one or two of the current seniors will leave.
 
khoazany said:
It's all due to LVG to decide if he will have a future with us (at least "short-term" future).If he said no then there's no way Blackett contract will be extended.Simple really.McNair will extend his contract for sure plus he's younger than Blackett.Don't think the number of CBs in first team squad next season will increase anyway since number isn't the problem.If there're one or two new signings one or two of the current seniors will leave.
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I don't think McNair is "for sure" at all. He's in exactly the same boat. The truth is that neither has shown anything like the promise of previous academy players like O'Shea, Brown, Evans or even Shawcross. Phil Jones was a country mile ahead of them both when he started for us at their age. Its all well and good saying "they are young give them a chance" but I'm not judging them against experienced first teamers, I'm judging them against academy players of old who were much, much better than they are now. They are getting the games they are because of a ridiculous situation, not because we see potential in them.
 
Pexbo said:
I don't think McNair is "for sure" at all. He's in exactly the same boat. The truth is that neither has shown anything like the promise of previous academy players like O'Shea, Brown, Evans or even Shawcross. Phil Jones was a country mile ahead of them both when he started for us at their age. Its all well and good saying "they are young give them a chance" but I'm not judging them against experienced first teamers, I'm judging them against academy players of old who were much, much better than they are now. They are getting the games they are because of a ridiculous situation, not because we see potential in them.
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Phil Jones was one of the best young defenders in the world when we sign him and he already played first team football for Blackburn before that.McNair has shown enough in the U21s as well as his first team appearances for us to keep him at least for next season.Don't forget he's still learning his trade as a CB and that might not be his final position.Impressed me vs Liverpool U21s on Monday when he played RB in the first half and holding midfielder in the second half.When Evans was on the same age as him he's still playing on loan in the Championship.
 
khoazany said:
Phil Jones was one of the best young defenders in the world when we sign him and he already played first team football for Blackburn before that.McNair has shown enough in the U21s as well as his first team appearances for us to keep him at least for next season.Don't forget he's still learning his trade as a CB and that might not be his final position.Impressed me vs Liverpool U21s on Monday when he played RB in the first half and holding midfielder in the second half.When Evans was on the same age as him he's still playing on loan in the Championship.
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I was impressed with McNair on Monday as well. I have not been too hot on him generally but I thought that he played with the kind of authority that you would expect from someone who has made the step up to first team level. I thought that he was definitely one of the best players out there. Blackett, on the other hand, was very poor.
 
Pexbo said:
I don't think McNair is "for sure" at all. He's in exactly the same boat. The truth is that neither has shown anything like the promise of previous academy players like O'Shea, Brown, Evans or even Shawcross. Phil Jones was a country mile ahead of them both when he started for us at their age. Its all well and good saying "they are young give them a chance" but I'm not judging them against experienced first teamers, I'm judging them against academy players of old who were much, much better than they are now. They are getting the games they are because of a ridiculous situation, not because we see potential in them.
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I can see what you're saying but you're missing the fact that the development of a young player isn't a fixed science. Players develop at different rates. Because Blackett is worse than Jones when comparing them both at the age of 18 does not categorically mean he will be worse at the age of, say, 27. Likely? Sure. The probability is that he will be worse. But nothing is categorical. It's a subtle difference but important. I've seen plenty of talented youngsters who looked certain world beaters to become crap and players who looked nothing more than average go on to become brilliant footballers.

Having said that doesn't mean you hold some fictitious hope that every young player may one day become good. You have to assess on what you see in training, matches, amongst many other things.

I tend to agree though that after I was initially impressed with Blackett, he's really regressed IMO. However it's been just over half a season, it's too early to condemn him to the dustbin just yet - it might be bad form.

However only one man is in a real position to make that call and it's LVG. Guess we will see if he gets a new deal but i tend to agree that it appears unlikely at this rate.
 
khoazany said:
Fryers is older than Blackett.

Fryers was highly rated in the U18s but so was Blackett.Saying him a somewhat unknown commodity is a bit strange.He did go to the pre-season under Fergie.
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I'm aware he's older? I was making comparisons with Fryers when he was here at the same age. I always felt Fryers was highly rated by 'some' on here and if you look back through the old threads, you will see he was. My point stil stands: I don't see Blackett making it here, not one bit.

Not strange to say he's a 'somewhat' unknown commodity? He clearly is. I don't watch U21 games but people on here that do, seemed to rate a-few higher than they rated Blackett. I had heard of him and knew his position, but I can't claim I knew more than that. Blackett has clearly been fast tracked this season due to several different circumstances.
 
Since we lost Vidic and Ferdinand it’s clearly the panic at United and we’re only focused on our defenders, and not our defense, rather than the real deal since 2 years, our attacking display.

How a player like Blackett can develop when at 19 there are so many critics against him. He has still not the level, but so did Rio or Vida at this age. I think that he will be loaned next year, hopefully in PL, and we we’ll see then
 
Have people already given up on Tyler? because i think at 20 he can still go on to be a really good defender, rookie mistakes are understandable when you are a rookie.
 
I don't think he'll get a game again this season unless injuries strike again or we move to back 3.
 
dxadel said:
Have people already given up on Tyler? because i think at 20 he can still go on to be a really good defender, rookie mistakes are understandable when you are a rookie.
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I never really thought highly of him so it's not like he has suddenly changed my mind.
 
dxadel said:
Have people already given up on Tyler? because i think at 20 he can still go on to be a really good defender, rookie mistakes are understandable when you are a rookie.
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This is the caf (2015 edition).

Where apparently, if you're 20, and you're not already Messi/Ronaldo level, a regular first team player, save damsels in distress, leap tall buildings in a single bound etc. you must be absolutely shite at football and life, and hence not wanted at our club.
 
We will probably sell McNair and Blackett this summer for £5m combined. They have been put in shop window this season and these short contracts ensure that we get a fee.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
We will probably sell McNair and Blackett this summer for £5m combined. They have been put in shop window this season and these short contracts ensure that we get a fee.
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I doubt that very much. Even if we buy a CB or two its good to have players like this we can fall back on. Next season will see us playing more games if we get into the CL. We'll need these legs.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
We will probably sell McNair and Blackett this summer for £5m combined. They have been put in shop window this season and these short contracts ensure that we get a fee.
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Are you sure that you're talking about Manchester United - the club that sold Darren fecking Gibson for 1 bloody million?
 
Nights said:
This is the caf (2015 edition).

Where apparently, if you're 20, and you're not already Messi/Ronaldo level, a regular first team player, save damsels in distress, leap tall buildings in a single bound etc. you must be absolutely shite at football and life, and hence not wanted at our club.
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All the bits referring to footballing ability etc. are absolute nonsense. The reason that people might have "given up" on Blackett is the fact that at youth team level he never showed any real ability to be a first team regular at a club like United. I understand some players are late bloomers, but to play a lot of U21 games and never really show the ability to make the step up means that people are entitled to feel that he won't make it. I think he'll be a rotation player for the next one or two years, and after that we'll either sell or choose not to extend his contract. There are far more talented defenders in our youth ranks at the moment that I expect to take his squad rotation role sooner rather than later.
 
Well I was completely wrong about both (he and McNair) leaving in the summer.

I just don't see where their future lies with us though, we're surely going to strengthen to a point that neither is going to get much game time so what plans do we have for them? Loan moves to EPL clubs? Protecting our interests in a way we are envious of other clubs doing?
 
Congratulations to Blackett. Im sure his entourage is more sensible than Periera's
 
Gets sent off for reserves. Rewarded with contract extension. Hopefully we can get a couple of mill for him in the summer if he's not in our plans.
 
Pexbo said:
Well I was completely wrong about both (he and McNair) leaving in the summer.

I just don't see where their future lies with us though, we're surely going to strengthen to a point that neither is going to get much game time so what plans do we have for them? Loan moves to EPL clubs? Protecting our interests in a way we are envious of other clubs doing?
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Perhaps LVG actually believes they have the potential to be first choice one day?
 
Pexbo said:
Well I was completely wrong about both (he and McNair) leaving in the summer.

I just don't see where their future lies with us though, we're surely going to strengthen to a point that neither is going to get much game time so what plans do we have for them? Loan moves to EPL clubs? Protecting our interests in a way we are envious of other clubs doing?
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What if the "strengthen" means we'll let some of the senior defenders go as well?If the number doesn't increase they will still get the same chance or even more with their versatilities.
 
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