Fecking Moyes.
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Fecking Moyes.
I swear Blackett looked much more assured than any of our other defenders.
Just made a horrible mistake to gift Palermo a goal...
This guy has become quite over rated because he looks calm on the ball. Against actual runs and movement he is getting shown up.
Clearly playing shit to get away again
Welbeck was a fantastic talent and has developed into a very good player. Blackett is not a patch on him, based on what we've seen so far. I get the feeling that he's playing out of coincidence mostly.
Same as Evans, who is suddenly a top centre half just because he is comfortable on the ball. I much rather have Smalling (not good today), but normally very solid defensively.
Blackett is nowhere near Welbeck in terms of talent.
Today his inexperience was shown up. He will be a better player after this experience. Today our defensive shape as a team was crap.
I do not agree with that. Evans has actually defended well since the MK Dons game. If anything, his defensive game is being under rated because of his recent sloppy passing. What makes it even more strange is that Blackett was equally as bad as Evans with his distribution in the Burnley game. He doesn't get half the criticism it seems.
Him being 'calm' on the ball doesn't excuse some of his rubbish long balls and the fact that he is dragged around so easily. It's naive. Smalling, Jones and Evans are all better.
He shouldn't be playing for the first team. Thorpe is a better cb and even he should only get minutes here and there. It's understandable that Van Gaal has selected him though considering the injuries.
The criticism of Blackett in here is getting ludicrous. Did you truly expect a player with no senior level experiencdm to slot in like a 26 year old Rio Ferdinand or Vidic, with a changing defence shape, a revolving set of partners alongside him due to injuries and a still gelling midfield unit infront of him? Some folks in here need to get a grip on reality.
No, but we didnt expect him to be a complete moron with terrible positioning.
This was a game too far for him, away against a good pressing team. To be fair he kept it together until late in the game. Expect him to out of the team for more than one game unless we have another injury crisis.
Just seen the game again on MOTD, and my God, what was he doing for the last two goals? Absolute comical defending.
Someone said earlier that he's made mistakes every game and got away with it, well today he didn't.
Someone said earlier that he's made mistakes every game and got away with it, well today he didn't.
Complete moron?
Wov.
Some of you are taking it too far esp. since he's a young player.
Today he showed his inexperience and had bad mistakes. But in the games he played he showed promise and was generally good.
He wont start the next one and we'll see how much he'll play from now on.
Wov.
Some of you are taking it too far esp. since he's a young player.
Today he showed his inexperience and had bad mistakes. But in the games he played he showed promise and was generally good.
He wont start the next one and we'll see how much he'll play from now on.
Seriously just watch the defending for the Vardy goal, its absolutely terrible. It'd be hilarious to watch at lower league level.
Obviously over-hyped yesterday, obviously now this is the back lash.
As always with redcafe the truth is in the extremes.
As always with redcafe the truth is in the extremes.
If we are judging our CB's then we judge them the same. If we can point out the flaws in Evans, Jones and Smalling the we should do the same for Blackett. The other three misplace a pass and they get killed for it.
So about 5 less mistakes than Blackett?
Blackett shouldn't be in the team. Vidic wouldn't have helped either.
He shouldn't be in the team. Not ready yet and may never be. The fact he is is a damning indictment of our summer's transfer activity.
Surely, for this season at least, Vidic would be a better option. I'd guess we'd have held them to less than 5 with Vidic for Blackett.
Yeah, I guess you're right if you put it like that.
He shouldn't be playing in 2 at the back system. For some reason he adapted pretty well for 3 at the back fair play and overachieved.
Seriously up until the start of the season him starting at CB for the U21s or the U19s used to have me worried for precisely the reasons JB and LimerickCityKid outlined here -
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/tyler-blackett.393909/page-24#post-16501598
Still tbf to him he was good first half. Went to shit when he was more exposed in the 2nd as his positional and player awareness is poor and he is too passive.
Seriously up until the start of the season him starting at CB for the U21s or the U19s used to have me worried for precisely the reasons JB and LimerickCityKid outlined here -
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/tyler-blackett.393909/page-24#post-16501598
Still tbf to him he was good first half. Went to shit when he was more exposed in the 2nd as his positional and player awareness is poor and he is too passive.
In all honestly, its a bit ridiculous that he's anywhere near a United first team. He's almost got there by default.
He did get there by default, with LVG insisting on a left footed CB for the back 3. He stayed there on merit/performances. But obviously he needs to keep them up and not dip like he is doing or he'll lose that place, then who knows what happens to him
His promotion to the first team is pretty similiar to Januzaj last season,
We used Januzaj alot due to our team being so devoid of creativity and attacking impetuous we had to use an 18 year old for inspiration
This season the over reliance on Blackett is a mixture of other defenders not being much better along with injuries
We used Januzaj alot due to our team being so devoid of creativity and attacking impetuous we had to use an 18 year old for inspiration
This season the over reliance on Blackett is a mixture of other defenders not being much better along with injuries
This - who exactly was Jonny marking and why not Ulloa?
He had two options. Close down the player in possession as quickly as possible and try and somehow cut out the through ball (admittedly the chances of that working would have been slim) or drop off so that Vardy didn't have a free run in on goal.
Instead he did neither, and just sort of floated around in no mans land, making the pass over to Vardy as simple as you like.
Exactly.
Blackett had an awesome game up till their 3rd goal, but after that .... was all down hill.
He was never getting to the player in possession, so if he had gone to him the pass would have been on anyway. If He drops off and marks the space/Vardy and De Laet runs and picks another pass/scores. Again people would kill him for not doing anything to stop De Laet.
It was just an awful situation to be in as a CB. Ideally, Smalling should have been there with him to cover the pass whilst he engages De Laet. Rojo had gone, Smalling was god knows where. There was way too much space.
He should be making these mistakes in the Championship/League one Football for Manchester United's B team instead of the pressure cooker of the EPL. The fa wonders why England don't product enough good young English players and yet are unable or unwilling to create the right conditions for youngsters such as Blackett to grow. In my opinion, unless you are a phenom such as Adnan most players struggle to take the leap from the reserves straight to the 1st team. Blackett would benefit greatly from a loan, however, due to the injury problems of Smalling, Jonees, and Evans unfortunately that is unlikely to happen.
I don't want to go back and find the posts, but from the few youth games I saw and from the pre-season, particularly that first half against Roma when Destro's movement completely flummoxed him, it was clear he was lacking in awareness or whatever you prefer to call it.
Long term, it's tough to say, but there was really nothing to suggest he was going to magically perform consistently as a CB, unless the people who watch more youth football think differently.
If we don't have insane injuries at CB, it would be nice to see him go on loan in January and start 20 championship games, maybe impress a Prem team enough to take him on loan next year, and then he'll be 22 and have around 60-80 pro games under his belt and we can see where we're at.
Please no just no! This isnt a match day thread so such arse should never be posted. You think this is the worst defence ever, you have no idea.....
He looked like a player who hasn't come through a successful loan spell in a League 1/Championship side and who is still very new to his position. If he wasn't left footed, he would be playing at that level and making these mistakes in an environment which suits his inexperience. The glaring positional errors (esp. the 5th goal) would have been ironed out of his game with regular time in the lower leagues if he was good enough to make it at a higher level. Hopefully, we can bring in a talented CB in January and let him go back to learning his trade at a lower level and hopefully realizing his potential in the long-term.
This is why people need to manage their expectation when it comes to youth player.Positioning (as well as concentration) has always been his weaknesses since his youth team day.If a youth player was promoted you have to be ready for him to have errors in his game which will either be ironed out eventually or never.Especially if you play in a defensive line and you don't have any reliable seniors beside then it will be even worse.Not really any rocket science here.
Treating youth players the same way as their seniors is just simple-minded and will always lead to the unnecessary negativity route.Suggesting he needs to go on loan after one poor match is nothing else but knee-jerking, and I'm sure I saw it happened for every bloody young defender.People just love to find scapegoats (Rooney is the best example).
Treating youth players the same way as their seniors is just simple-minded and will always lead to the unnecessary negativity route.Suggesting he needs to go on loan after one poor match is nothing else but knee-jerking, and I'm sure I saw it happened for every bloody young defender.People just love to find scapegoats (Rooney is the best example).
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Not sure why people are criticising him a lot for his game today. From what I've read, Rojo played poorly and this would have left Blackett in poor situations as LB should be the CB's last defence from the left, which sounds like it wasn't happening.
Again, I haven't seen the game yet but sounds like Blackett had a good first half. Sad to see that he got a red. Anyone have a gif of the red card?
Again, I haven't seen the game yet but sounds like Blackett had a good first half. Sad to see that he got a red. Anyone have a gif of the red card?
In hindsight, both of the options you mentioned, bring into play the possibility that Blind or Smalling might recover sufficiently to impact the play. Had he held a high-line then Vardy would have been forced to check his run and even if on-side when the pass came, Smalling might have got back in time. Similarly, if Blackett had simply covered Vardy, De Laet would be forced to act (shoot/cross) before Blind gets back. Either option would have reduced the chances of Leicester scoring, though still a great opportunity for them.
Worth noting that Blind and Smalling should have sensed the danger far earlier so we would have had protection despite Rojo and Mata getting us into trouble.
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