[carlosp]

Why are people here blaming Blackett for the first goal? Go watch the replay. The wing back was beaten so he went out to apply pressure. He is suppose to get out there and do that esp with a back 3. Granted he didn't channel the guy wide so he did not do his job perfectly, however the real problem is that none of our CM are tracking back in the middle. There are three white shirts and two red shirts when that first Swansea goal goes in and while Blackett did not contain the ball out wide he should have gone to help and it is the CMs who are responsible for that first goal imho.

The second goal is mostly down to Smalling and Young not getting to where they should be. The quick kick totally caught Smalling out of position and created the opportunity. Young playing in an unfamiliar position, allowing the ball to carry over his head to the back post which leads to all types of problems and obviously a goal. Again why is Blackett being slated when two others make horrible messes on this goal?

Overall I thought he played very well. Yes a few too many long balls, and yes he was not perfect, but when I consider his composure and overall excellent play *esp* at his young age, it is confusing to my why anyone would go after him when other players clearly did more wrong and more to contribute to Swansea's goals than him... .

I thought Fletcher was part to blame too. 1), he should have stayed with the fouled guy Bony but didn't and 2) he wasn't aware of the game around him so when Bony did the quick take, Fletcher was unaware and didn't track back sufficiently to assist.

He should have done something similar to what the Swansea player did at the beginning of the 80th minute. Commit foul, stay at the spot and make sure a quick freekick can't happen.

3) Fletcher ran back but then left Routledge alone even though Routledge was alone in front of him and Fletcher was just looking at him.

Blackett was excellent for a first time first team player. His passing was really good and there was a stat I saw that said he had the most passes and highest accurate percentage. And most of these were forward and not side to side.

 

[ivaldo]

I didn't think Blackett did a lot wrong, until preseason I didn't really appreciate his full passing ability, his long range passing is fantastic and he displayed that again aginast Swansea.

I'm not too down after that game to be honest, there's going to be blips and better to get them out of the way. Blackett was a big positive Saturday and I genuinely think he would force himself into a regular starter in the next few seasons.

 

[ScarleyUtd]

I agree with everyone lauding Blackett. For a debut he did really well. His long range passing in particular was superb. Defo one for the future.

 

[Loublaze]

Tyler could be a future United captain. He's so calm with it...puts more experienced players like Evans and Smalling to shame with his composure. Big hopes for him.

 

[Sunny Jim]

One question-is he left footed?

 

[Loublaze]

One question-is he left footed?

Of course he is.

 

[LR7]

The injuries of Shaw and Evans means that there is room for both him and Rojo. I'm really keen to see more of Blackett. I follow the youth teams a fair bit and I've been pleasantly surprised by his first team performances so far.

 

[Ferguson]

I think that his inexperience kept Reece James out of the side.

It would have been better defensively to have had James on the left and Young on the right, but that would have meant the combined inexperience of Blackett and of James on the left side of defence.

Now Rojo can cover at LWB and Young can play on the right. When Shaw or Valencia return then Rojo can take Blackett's place at LCB

 

[FromTheBench]

I think Rojo takes Blackett's place as LCB if he is fit to start that is. I doubt he will play as a LWB in a 5, though not sure.

Rafael is back fully by next game so he goes straight into RWB. And probably James or Young at LWB.

 

[dutchred]

I think Rojo takes Blackett's place as LCB if he is fit to start that is. I doubt he will play as a LWB in a 5, though not sure.

Rafael is back fully by next game so he goes straight into RWB. And probably James or Young at LWB.

I hope this signing does not mean that Tyler's development will be retarded. It will not be a goos example to the other young players. I hope Tyler gets regular games

 

[sun_tzu]

I think Rojo takes Blackett's place as LCB if he is fit to start that is. I doubt he will play as a LWB in a 5, though not sure.

Rafael is back fully by next game so he goes straight into RWB. And probably James or Young at LWB.

if rafael is back and rojo is ready to play I wouldnt be shocked to see a back 4 (we looked better when we switched to it against swansea)

Rafael----Jones-----Smalling-----Rojo

 

[khoazany]

I hope this signing does not mean that Tyler's development will be retarded. It will not be a goos example to the other young players. I hope Tyler gets regular games

More about having another option at LCB with Evans switch to central CB (otherwise we have to play Smalling and Jones almost every game they weren't deserved it so far)
Jones/Keane Evans/Smalling Rojo/Blackett that's how I look at it.

 

[dutchred]

More about having another option at LCB with Evans switch to central CB (otherwise we have to play Smalling and Jones almost every game they weren't deserved it so far)
Jones/Keane Evans/Smalling Rojo/Blackett that's how I look at it.

I agree, I just hope that Tyler gets games regularly

 

[m1y2]

if rafael is back and rojo is ready to play I wouldnt be shocked to see a back 4 (we looked better when we switched to it against swansea)

Rafael----Jones-----Smalling-----Rojo

We didn't play the whole pre-season 3-5-2 just for fun.. we have no defensive minded player who could cover for our two centrebacks who are not consistent enough.

 

[Momochiru]

I agree, I just hope that Tyler gets games regularly

I disagree. He has a lot of promise, but he is not ready to be a starter. For me he should get games only in the cups and coming of the bench when we have full control and of course if we have an injury crisis. I'm convinced that we wouldn't have lost the game against Swansea if it wasn't for his mistakes. Which is a pity, because overall he had a very good game, but his two mistakes cost us both goals - a sign of a talented player who is not ready. Yes, others made mistakes too, but for both goals he was the one who started the avalanche of errors.

 

[kundalini]

I disagree. He has a lot of promise, but he is not ready to be a starter. For me he should get games only in the cups and coming of the bench when we have full control and of course if we have an injury crisis. I'm convinced that we wouldn't have lost the game against Swansea if it wasn't for his mistakes. Which is a pity, because overall he had a very good game, but his two mistakes cost us both goals - a sign of a talented player who is not ready. Yes, others made mistakes too, but for both goals he was the one who started the avalanche of errors.

That's incorrect. He did not start the avalanche of errors for the first goal. Go back and watch the move develop. There were two crucial errors well before Blackett moved across. Firstly Mata had been tracking Ki during the early stages of the move, he continued to track Ki back into our half, then bizarrely decided to wander over towards the action where Herrera, Fletcher and Young were involved, thus leaving the eventual goal scorer completely free to move unmarked towards our goal. Had Mata done his job, the chances of Ki scoring were minimal. Young, perhaps not surprisingly, got caught out by their wide player's run off the ball, requiring Blackett to move across. Those are the two key errors in the first goal and both happened well before Blackett was involved. Mata's mistake was a disgrace.

On the 2nd goal I think you can make a reasonable case that Blackett made two key errors, firstly enabling them to take a quick free kick then losing his man/failing to get out quickly to block, when the goal was scored. Personally I think Ashley Young's lack of experience defending crosses turned a situation that would normally be cleared, to some degree, by the full back, into a chaotic situation in which Blackett made a poor call.

 

[Momochiru]

That's incorrect. He did not start the avalanche of errors for the first goal. Go back and watch the move develop. There were two crucial errors well before Blackett moved across. Firstly Mata had been tracking Ki during the early stages of the move, he continued to track Ki back into our half, then bizarrely decided to wander over towards the action where Herrera, Fletcher and Young were involved, thus leaving the eventual goal scorer completely free to move unmarked towards our goal. Had Mata done his job, the chances of Ki scoring were minimal. Young, perhaps not surprisingly, got caught out by their wide player's run off the ball, requiring Blackett to move across. Those are the two key errors in the first goal and both happened well before Blackett was involved. Mata's mistake was a disgrace.

On the 2nd goal I think you can make a reasonable case that Blackett made two key errors, firstly enabling them to take a quick free kick then losing his man/failing to get out quickly to block, when the goal was scored. Personally I think Ashley Young's lack of experience defending crosses turned a situation that would normally be cleared, to some degree, by the full back, into a chaotic situation in which Blackett made a poor call.

I still think Blackett was the main culprit for the first goal as well. Young was pretty close to their wide player and he would've run into blind alley had Blackett stayed with his man. The fact that Blackett left his man is what created the opportunity. Even if Mata had stayed with Ki the opportunity would've still be there, just Sigurdson would've shot or cut in instead of passing to Ki. In both cases Sigurdson would've been just as likely to score, because he had all the space in the world after Blackett left him.

 

[carlosp]

On the 2nd goal I think you can make a reasonable case that Blackett made two key errors, firstly enabling them to take a quick free kick then losing his man/failing to get out quickly to block, when the goal was scored. Personally I think Ashley Young's lack of experience defending crosses turned a situation that would normally be cleared, to some degree, by the full back, into a chaotic situation in which Blackett made a poor call.

To be honest, I still believe Fletcher made far more erros than Blackett did. Watch the game again, Smalling made the tackle then runs back to get into the defence but Fletcher was on the the closest to the spot and even watches when Bony takes the ball and starts the quick freekick. Fletcher I feel should have been on the spot preventing the quick pass. Then Fletcher runs back but for some reason stops when he enters the box and doesn't even go to cover Sigurdsson who is in front of him with no one covering.

I felt Blackett's only mistake was passing the ball back to Bony. The rest was squarely Fletcher's fault.

 

[dutchred]

I still think Blackett was the main culprit for the first goal as well. Young was pretty close to their wide player and he would've run into blind alley had Blackett stayed with his man. The fact that Blackett left his man is what created the opportunity. Even if Mata had stayed with Ki the opportunity would've still be there, just Sigurdson would've shot or cut in instead of passing to Ki. In both cases Sigurdson would've been just as likely to score, because he had all the space in the world after Blackett left him.

Everyone makes mistakes especially at his age and experience. If you read my post properly, you will see that I was not asking for him to be first choice. All I was expressing was the hope that he would get games regularly and not be left out to rot. He will only eliminate those mistakes on the field, not on the bench or in the reserves. Also i disagrre that he was blatanltly at fault with both goals

 

[Momochiru]

Everyone makes mistakes especially at his age and experience. If you read my post properly, you will see that I was not asking for him to be first choice. All I was expressing was the hope that he would get games regularly and not be left out to rot. He will only eliminate those mistakes on the field, not on the bench or in the reserves. Also i disagrre that he was blatanltly at fault with both goals

I agree he wasn't blatantly at fault for both goals - it's not like he miskicked the ball and someone went on to score after, but for me it started with him. As I said it's a pity, because he is showing a lot of promise, but he is not ready yet to be a starter. He should be a backup to Rojo. If he gets a few games in the cups, plus coming off the bench in a few games and I'm sure he will be required to cover for an injury a few times - overall he could get 15-20 games this season. This is plenty for someone his age. This could be much more beneficial for him, than getting thrown in the deep end from the start - if we keep loosing games the atmosphere in the club will deteriorate like last season and he might get blamed more and more for his mistakes. This could be very hard to take mentally and do much more damage than good.

 

[carlosp]

Glad Blackett should be getting another chance to play this weekend with Rojo out due to work permit issues.

Also found that Van Gaal likes him, which I am glad about. Hope the youngester gets to play many games this season.

To understand Van Gaal you have to know that he sees his first job as instilling his ideas in his players. In a corridor at Carrington at 3pm, I came across Tyler Blackett sitting on his own, with a computer on his lap, studying clips of his performance in the 2-1 home defeat to Swansea City

Wearing my England coach’s hat, I could absolutely see that Manchester United is going to be a fine place for young English players to develop.

“I think Tyler was playing his best match of the whole preparation [against Swansea]. But in his inexperience he gave the ball back too quickly,” said Van Gaal, who clearly likes Blackett. “That’s not good, but he shall not make that error again, because of that. The impact of an error is much bigger.”

 

[Stobzilla]

Aye, I liked that as well, it says to any young player that if you make your first mistake, it won't be your last and that they are a nessecary part of the learning process.

 

[Litch]

Like him a lot. Needs a more experienced CB around him to bring him on. Where's Rio or Vidic when you need them...

 

[footballgirl07]

Another good performance and even didn't give an inch when Altidore tried to throw his weight around. Also did our best cross of the match. Whipped in a great ball from the left.

 

[#07]

One of the few who can hold his head high after today's travesty. Hasn't been mentally scarred by last season like so many others.

 

[RexHamilton]

Encouraging, in a game short of encouragement. One of the very few positives.

 

[FromTheBench]

His best performance for me so far.

 

[Ekeke]

His passing was off today, but he showed good strength and balance.

He needs to cut out the aimless longballs. 2 out of 8 found the target today and that sums up how economical he currently is with them.

 

[Golden Nugget]

Played well defensively but way too many long balls for my liking.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

Played well. Looks composed and can feel good about himself after today. Can't say the same for a lot of other players today.

 

[Godfather]

I love the lad. Composed on the ball, good positionally and quite a unit.

 

[FromTheBench]

His passing was off today, but he showed good strength and balance.

He needs to cut out the aimless longballs. 2 out of 8 found the target today and that sums up how economical he currently is with them.

I think those longballs are down to the shit midfield we had.

 

[Man-United]

With Cole retired and Shaw injured, could he be in the England squad?

 

[Dobba]

Played well defensively but way too many long balls for my liking.

Stick a midfield infront of him and he'll have someone to pass to rather than bypass.

 

[charleysurf]

I love that he will bawl at DDG and everyone else. Looks very confident. I like M Keane, but he looks terrified by comparison.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Very composed again.

 

[Jerch]

He was the best player today. Again. I would say it is like a new signing.

 

[Ekeke]

I think those longballs are down to the shit midfield we had.

Today perhaps, but he also did it in the first game when Ander was an option

And I dont even mind if he goes for a long pass if he actually has decent success with it. But he doesn't. The vast majority dont give his teammate a chance to recover it.

 

[Ludens the Red]

It's funny the contrast between him and jones in terms of composure, it's one extreme to the other but he does look good. I see him more as a left back then centre half.

 

[FromTheBench]

Today perhaps, but he also did it in the first game when Ander was an option

And I dont even mind if he goes for a long pass if he actually has decent success with it. But he doesn't. The vast majority dont give his teammate a chance to recover it.

I think first game he was the hoofer to Fellaini. But yeah agree that he should be more selective. He has made some diagonals in pre season but cannot do it every time.