Twitter Discussion Poll: Blacklist tweets from BS accounts or not?

Do you think tweets from bullshit twitter accounts such as indykaila should be blacklisted?

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Damien said:
That's exactly what it is referring to. Banning those accounts and ones like BFairthorne which keep getting posted despite clearly being fake.
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The problem without drawing a definitive line is knowing who can and can't be posted. Ben Fairthorne, for instance, has these supposed credentials:

Worked for CNN, Base Soccer, The Sun, The Mail, IPC Media, Nuts Magazine and Frank PR. Worked at football agency with predominately Arsenal and Spurs players.
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At face value, that looks like someone who could be trusted.
 
forevrared said:
The problem without drawing a definitive line is knowing who can and can't be posted. Ben Fairthorne, for instance, has these supposed credentials:



At face value, that looks like someone who could be trusted.
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All it takes is two seconds to see that it is a bullshit account. Google and there is no mention of him working for any of those companies. It's easier than you think. Same with that Terry di Mardi fellow. His avatar is on a BT Sport background, but a few secs of googling shows he doesn't exist.
 
Damien said:
All it takes is two seconds to see that it is a bullshit account. Google and there is no mention of him working for any of those companies. It's easier than you think. Same with that Terry di Mardi fellow. His avatar is on a BT Sport background, but a few secs of googling shows he doesn't exist.
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I'm not arguing that he is a real person - just that the nature of Twitter makes it hard to weed out people like this. Everyone won't stop to take the time to Google people and ensure they exist before posting Tweets. I'm not saying make it the wild west in the Twitter thread, but if you have problems with bullshitters, you should probably just stick to the player specific threads and the newspapers in the first place.
 
That's what the blacklist is for, to help people who don't take the time to Google and quickly see that they're as bad as indykaila.

The consensus from this thread has been that people are tired of looking at the Twitter thread to see pages of just chat with one or two tweets by bullshitters like Fairthorne. They want something with a tiny bit more substance and I can see vast improvements already.
 
People also need to stop going into the twitter thread moaning about the reliability of the tweet. It's the twitter thread ffs, whether we like it or not, and no matter how much we try to moderate it, most of it is bullshit/speculation. If people want cold hard facts they should not frequent the twitter threads expecting to find it in there.

I agree with the general consensus on blacklisting the known WUMs like IndyKaila but I also don't think people can go too overboard with who goes on the blacklist
 
Howard Nurse isn't a WUM he's just painfully late with his 'news'.

Unless he's deliberately become a parody of himself and is now doing it on purpose for attention? (I don't think so but I'm not sure now)
 
Damien said:
That's exactly what it is referring to. Banning those accounts and ones like BFairthorne which keep getting posted despite clearly being fake.
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Fair enough, thanks I know which way to vote now.
 
Genius Me! said:
But you agreed indykaila is a bullshitter, do you not realise this hernandez fella is another bullshitter and not actually a journalist. As damien I think said, he's a more professional version of indy.
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Indy posts "BREAKING - This club signs this club for X - Heard it here first"
Hernandez and several others like him (Elko Born for example) just give their opinions on the situation. They are very specific about what they write and who they talk about. Rafael Hernandez sticks to Barca rumours/discussions with some La Liga stuff too. Elko sticks to stuff about The Netherlands and now United.

I don't see why people are so uptight about these tweets. If you don't believe it, don't respond to it. Both Rafa Hernandez and Elko have tweeted interesting comments/discussions which leads to discussions on here.
 
@MkPaul I'm not being uptight, it's not like I created these rules, it was done by the mods and the poll is quite clearly in favour of banning bullshitters. Basically the point I'm making, is that Hernandez is just as much of a bullshitter as Indy, he's not someone that knows anybody or has any more information than any of us.
 
Genius Me! said:
@MkPaul I'm not being uptight, it's not like I created these rules, it was done by the mods and the poll is quite clearly in favour of banning bullshitters. Basically the point I'm making, is that Hernandez is just as much of a bullshitter as Indy, he's not someone that knows anybody or has any more information than any of us.
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The poll is quite clearly in favour of banning Indykaila. If the poll was worded a little more appropriately then I think there would be a big difference.

"Basically the point I'm making, is that Hernandez is just as much of a bullshitter as Indy"

See I disagree. He is Spanish and constantly tweets (in English) about stories over in Spain. He never fakes reports or comes out with quotes that don't exist. He basically reports on news he has available to him. Is he ITK? No I don't think so. That's why whenever he says he thinks a certain player will sign for a certain team, I take it with a pinch of salt because it is his opinion.

His opinion will be a lot more educated than the rest of us on the Caf in regards to Barca/La Liga press but that doesn't mean he's going to be right. As I said, he simply tweets what he thinks and translates a lot of "reputable" sources from Marca/AS.

Comparing him to Indykaila is just silly.

 
@MkPaul last week he started giving the whole big "Fabregas is going to City" he's got his sources etc etc. When it became apparent that this wasn't the case he backtracked and said that like other journalists he was given bad information.

He is a bullshitter, but yes I agree with you that he might report a story that he's seen or something or other, but when it comes to his personal opinions about transfers I think he's pointless as he knows no more than you and I. And that's ignoring the fact that he tries to pass himself off as a journalist, which is a load of cobblers.
 
Genius Me! said:
@MkPaul last week he started giving the whole big "Fabregas is going to City" he's got his sources etc etc. When it became apparent that this wasn't the case he backtracked and said that like other journalists he was given bad information.

He is a bullshitter, but yes I agree with you that he might report a story that he's seen or something or other, but when it comes to his personal opinions about transfers I think he's pointless as he knows no more than you and I. And that's ignoring the fact that he tries to pass himself off as a journalist, which is a load of cobblers.
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To be fair, the Fabregas to City story was the first time i've seen him openly come out and say something like "This person to this team is a done deal" in respect to his "sources." As I said, he normally just tweets what others are talking about.

For all we know, he was given a bit of information from somebody he trusted and he ran with it. Came to bite him on the arse but who here really put money on what he was saying? We are all clued up enough to not take these things as gospel.

Like I said, he will know more than you and I because he is out there in Spain and he focuses on Barca specifically. Whenever we are linked to Barca players, he tends to provide a lot of info, how well said players have apparently got along with certain staff/coaches etc. He keeps up to date with all of the news about the club so he obviously knows more than you or I. That is why when he (or others like him) post an opinion on twitter, I think it's worth including it in our Twitter Discussion topic to get some discussions going.
 
Genius Me! said:
@MkPaul last week he started giving the whole big "Fabregas is going to City" he's got his sources etc etc. When it became apparent that this wasn't the case he backtracked and said that like other journalists he was given bad information.

He is a bullshitter, but yes I agree with you that he might report a story that he's seen or something or other, but when it comes to his personal opinions about transfers I think he's pointless as he knows no more than you and I. And that's ignoring the fact that he tries to pass himself off as a journalist, which is a load of cobblers.
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Agreed.

Both he and tancredi should follow indy onto the blacklist.
 
@Genius Me! @akash02

At the end of the day, I am all for a blacklist which includes twitter accounts that are WUMs or post a lot of bullshit several times a day each day to get people to go to their website like Indykaila/TopTransfers/OfficialTransfersTM etc etc etc.

Shit like this should have no place on a Twitter Discussion thread:



However, I stand by my point that people like Rafael Hernandez do post insightful tweets which a lot of the people on the caf find interesting. The fact so many people quoted my comment on the other page and agreed with this should show you enough people are happy for this to be the case.

I just feel the poll title was incredibly misleading. I don't think a single person on RedCafe wants to see transfer tweets from Indy (unless it's taking the piss out of him) so it was bound to give a massively one sided poll result.

Why wouldn't a ban for the obvious idiots like Indykaila and just let people make their own minds up about Rafa Hernandez etc be a good way to proceed?
 
Of course if everyone who was on Twitter reported Indykaila for spam we could get his account shut down. But that would be scurrilous and not something I'd ever suggest on a serious basis.
 
@MkPaul I'm sure Damien has said a few times that Hernandez guy is a bullshitter and added to the blocked list which is why I made I said what I did. Maybe @Damien can correct me on this if I'm mistaken.
 
matherto said:
Just close the twitter thread. All of it is bullshit.
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I agree with this. Close it, or allow everything.
Anything worthwhile will find it's way onto the appropriate thread (or thread title) anyway.

If there's an 'announcement' supposedly happening in two hours, post the 'announcement' in two hours when (if) it happens. No need to post a tweet from a nobody about something so important it can wait two hours to be released. And then getting annoyed about what follows.
 
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