He was good for around a half v Denmark and pretty underwhelming otherwise.
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He was good for around a half v Denmark and pretty underwhelming otherwise.
2 things...
1) We don't need another player in the position that lately Rooney is occupying and that Kagawa was obviously signed for.
2) Him and RVP hate each other.
1) We don't need another player in the position that lately Rooney is occupying and that Kagawa was obviously signed for.
2) Him and RVP hate each other.
I think he can still play in the CL if signed in January if I recall the rules correctly. You are allowed one such player.
I dont think this is actually going to materialise.
Sounds familiar now yes. Still do not want.
Doubt SAF's interested. We dont need him at all.
He'd be great cover for Kagawa. Which other attacking mid are we going to play out of position while Kagawa is injured? Exactly, no one.
If we got Sneijder I'd be very angry. It'd be sort of like the RvP purchase, only instead of buying a world class player in a position we don't need players for we'd be buying someone who is in a seemingly sharp decline in a position we don't need players for.
If we got Sneijder I'd be very angry. It'd be sort of like the RvP purchase, only instead of buying a world class player in a position we don't need players for we'd be buying someone who is in a seemingly sharp decline in a position we don't need players for.
Now if only we'd be hearing/reading rumours about players like Gundogan, De Rossi, Moutinho or Strootman instead of Sneijder & co.
Sounds like someone at red-issue on a wum...
That ship has sailed a while back...
@BBCSport: Chelsea are in talks about a deal that could see former striker Didier Drogba return to Stamford Bridge on loan #bbcfootball
I always thought Drogba left too early. Hes a cnut, but a briliant cnut.
I don't think he's a cnut at all.
Is he still active for the Ivory Coast? He'll miss January in that case; when would the Chinese league restart?
Slightly brave move on his part, as right now his final kick for the club is winning them the Champions League - that's a hell of a note to go out on.
Slightly brave move on his part, as right now his final kick for the club is winning them the Champions League - that's a hell of a note to go out on.
FIFA have now turned down Drogba's request to leave Shanghai Shenhua on loan so that won't be happening.
I never understood why the let him go and never replaced him anyway.
Good. Chelsea fecked up by not having enough strikers. They shouldn't be allowed one outside the transfer window.
It was always going to be rejected. Didnt they reject both henry and becks's requests too?
Good for us. Chelsea are screwed now and should not be allowed to rectify their mistake.
Till January. When they will buy a striker.
I understood that Drogba would only be coming in on loan when the transfer window opened anyway?
No, he was requesting to move outside the window which would have helped Chelsea for an entire month.
Yep. ACON starts in January so moving in January wouldn't have done him much good. He wanted to keep up his fitness ahead of ACON so wanted to move outside of the window as the Chinese season had ended.
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Am being told that Chelsea have a strong interest in #MUFC's Nani. Weighing up a Jan bid.
Hmmm. "Weighing up."
Am being told that Chelsea have a strong interest in #MUFC's Nani. Weighing up a Jan bid.
Hmmm. "Weighing up."
@DaveGoddard1971: Am being told that Chelsea have a strong interest in #MUFC's Nani. Weighing up a Jan bid.
He got Van Persie a week or so before. Fifa registered agent, who's actually listed on their website.
He got Van Persie a week or so before. Fifa registered agent, who's actually listed on their website.
Why the feck do Chelsea even need him?
They need a striker. They've enough of attacking midfielders/wingers.
They need a striker. They've enough of attacking midfielders/wingers.
Doubt SAF would sell him to anyone in England.
He should attract good clubs from abroad too so we'l have choices.
Much like RVP though, depends on the player.
He should attract good clubs from abroad too so we'l have choices.
Much like RVP though, depends on the player.
Mitten speculated that an English club are interested and that Nani will pay there. If Chelsea want to pay 20 - 25m for him then SAF will take that IMO. Mitten also stated that the playing staff do not view Nani as being top level so they might be less worried about him playing for a rival.
Nani isn't top-level - and at the age of 26 I think it's same to assume he never will be.
I just read the article again. Unless it has since been edited, he didn't say that.
He would have given Nani a new contract earlier in the year, but one on his old terms of £80,000 rather than the £125,000 that he demanded during negotiations in the summer. He initially thought that he could follow compatriot Cristiano Ronaldo’s contract curve, with improved deals each time. United didn’t agree.
So why the change of heart from United, why the cooling of interest? Put simply, the club don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is. They don’t think he’s improved his game sufficiently as they’d hoped and felt let down by the player at several points last season.
Just as Sir Alex’s mind was made up by Dimitar Berbatov’s inability to change big matches which would ultimately leave to his departure, so United have lost confidence in Nani. Berbatov’s inability to take two chances against City in the 2011 FA Cup final went badly against him, so Nani’s performances against City in the crucial April derby did the same.
None of the coaching staff doubt Nani’s raw talent and his instinct in matches which can lead to moments of genius. There have been times when Nani has been United’s most creative player, the closest to one the team have had since selling Ronaldo to Madrid in 2009. He has improved, no doubt. Ferguson even complimented him on his “maturity” at the start of 2010, while he was nominated for the PFA Young Player of the Year in 2011, a season when he was also named in the PFA Team of the Year alongside team mates Edwin van der Sar, Nemanja Vidic and Dimitar Berbatov. But his progress was not as good as United expected in 2011-12
It isn't a great leap to read between those lines.
If Mitten is to be believed then the club clearly do not feel that Nani is top level.
All of the above makes sense. However, when many of Arsenal's youngest, non-first team players are allegedly on £60000 per week, Nani asking for £125k doesn't seem that unreasonable.
25mil would be hard to turn down given his contract situation, true. I dont agree at all with the top level bollox. If he isnt top level, none of our wingers are.
Well, if he's being let go because of how good he is, it should spell trouble for the other 2 wingers too. Somehow, i dont see it happening.
There are very few wingers better in world football than Nani, so unless we're changing the system, we're not going to replace him with someone better if 80k is our limit.
Exactly. If Young actually is on 100k a week, Nani is damn right to want more. Good luck to us if we're thinking of getting someone of similar quality in at lower wages.
Definitely agree. I'd say he's in the top 5 wingers in the world if you discount Ronaldo/Messi.
As far as I am aware, wages in the Portugese league are pretty low compared to players respective transfer fees. Hence, Rodriguez would be on lower if he were to arrive and I cannot imagine Isco is on anything like 100k a week at his tender age.
I know Isco isn't a winger but I would take any of those two over Nani, especially if we are transitioning into a team that doesn't play with out and out wingers, or at least 2 out and out wingers.
If we go for either of the 2, it'd cost us a bomb considering the competition that'l be there for their transfer. Say it costs us 35mil while we sell Nani for 15mil. That means an additional cost of 20mil. I agree they'l want much smaller contracts. Say 50-60k. nani wants 125k which means a saving of about 4mil a year. In 3yrs time, whoever we sign would be wanting a much better contract. The math simply tells me there's no way we can make any saving overall.
The only thing we'l do is let go of a proven top winger and get someone with potential in and develop them. I wont be against it at all but if we are to buy them, it shouldnt be at the expense of letting go of Nani.
Our interest in Lucas (and Hazard before that) suggests that we are certainly in the market for an explosive and talented attacking player and the money that we were prepared to spend of both of them suggests that we will not shy from spending similar sums on another target of similar qualities.
It is a big leap. "The club" clearly means the management of the club, not the players. He hasn't said or implied anything that suggests the players think what you mentioned above.
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