Tuppetgate Draft - In Memoriam, Tuppet

Kaka getting picked is a welcome change. People in the draft community have forgotten the amazing player he was before his Madrid stint.

Intrigued to see how you fit him there with Totti @Don Alfredo
 
Was part of my plan if I did not get kopa.

Yea he would have been perfect for your system if I am right about what you are planning to deploy.

Either ways deserves more outings.
 
Yeah i was just surprised as it feels like Varane hasn't been around long and Kaka was finished a long time ago.

Good find and good to see Varane get an outing in drafts, think it might be the first time.

Yeah Varane went to Real at 18 years old and just defended against Messi in Classico's like it's no big deal.

Back then when Mourinho still had a god-like sense of spotting and developing world class centerback talent:D

If chain, continues from last pick. If no mate, then standard rule applies.

I would highly suggest to change that rule. If it is a chain roll in first round of reinforcement, many managers won't reinforce at all. Round 12 will already be a weaker round because of the NT only restriction, which directly affects the possible chain pick in reinforcement. Plus the options on great players will be even smaller with the rule-book stating every first and second round pick is blocked.

Even if it is chain in r1 of reinforcement and no mates in r2, many will have a problem reinforcing because the no mate rule blocks even more great players and some teams already look ridiculously strong.
 
Yeah Varane went to Real at 18 years old and just defended against Messi in Classico's like it's no big deal.

Back then when Mourinho still had a god-like sense of spotting and developing world class centerback talent:D



I would highly suggest to change that rule. If it is a chain roll in first round of reinforcement, many managers won't reinforce at all. Round 12 will already be a weaker round because of the NT only restriction, which directly affects the possible chain pick in reinforcement. Plus the options on great players will be even smaller with the rule-book stating every first and second round pick is blocked.

Even if it is chain in r1 of reinforcement and no mates in r2, many will have a problem reinforcing because the no mate rule blocks even more great players and some teams already look ridiculously strong.

This basically.
 
That will make reinforcements harder :lol:

Precisely.

I would highly suggest to change that rule. If it is a chain roll in first round of reinforcement, many managers won't reinforce at all. Round 12 will already be a weaker round because of the NT only restriction, which directly affects the possible chain pick in reinforcement. Plus the options on great players will be even smaller with the rule-book stating every first and second round pick is blocked.

Even if it is chain in r1 of reinforcement and no mates in r2, many will have a problem reinforcing because the no mate rule blocks even more great players and some teams already look ridiculously strong.

The reinforcement is not intended to balance teams out. The rules are fair, standard and applies to everyone. If some teams look ridiculously strong, nothing much I can do about it, except to tell you all to...

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@Edgar Allan Pillow I was not on about balancing, I don't want the rule to change so that teams are more equal. That is up to the drafters. I said that because I think many sides wouldn't change at all. I have no problems with some teams looking very strong, I merely pointed out that they will have very little opportunity to strengthen. If I was talking about balancing, I would argue in favor of the current rule because the other teams could catch up.

I just want to have some different sides in the reinforcement rounds, that is what makes following the tournament exciting. The evolution of the sides.
 
Time to add some Ballon D'Or magic to my attack:drool:

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When I said to you that I would add another playmaker after Modric I was actually thinking of him if the chain continued for one more round (would have to sacrifice one of the picks before, but he is worth it).

Absolute beast in his prime. Glad someone went for him.
 
@Edgar Allan Pillow I was not on about balancing, I don't want the rule to change so that teams are more equal. That is up to the drafters. I said that because I think many sides wouldn't change at all. I have no problems with some teams looking very strong, I merely pointed out that they will have very little opportunity to strengthen. If I was talking about balancing, I would argue in favor of the current rule because the other teams could catch up.

I just want to have some different sides in the reinforcement rounds, that is what makes following the tournament exciting. The evolution of the sides.

I don't think this is a very restrictive condition. Managers have still have 2 picks to manipulate so that they end up with a nice lead-on should they clear R1.
 
Yeah i was just surprised as it feels like Varane hasn't been around long and Kaka was finished a long time ago.

Good find and good to see Varane get an outing in drafts, think it might be the first time.
Far from it.
 
Kaka getting picked is a welcome change. People in the draft community have forgotten the amazing player he was before his Madrid stint.

Intrigued to see how you fit him there with Totti @Don Alfredo

Cheers:) I am excited to pair them up and happy to have managed to build an attack I like, after being stuck in the 80s Serie A defenders limbo for 5 rounds and missing out on several players at the first break of the chain.

When I said to you that I would add another playmaker after Modric I was actually thinking of him if the chain continued for one more round (would have to sacrifice one of the picks before, but he is worth it).

Absolute beast in his prime. Glad someone went for him.

I assumed you meant another No. 10 to play at the tip of a diamond, but couldn't get my head around how all your other players would fit into that. Kaka would have been perfect for your side because he can easily shine next to other playmakers and doesn't take anything away from their game. Plus the proven CL winning combination of Pirlo-Kaka of course:drool:
 
I assumed you meant another No. 10 to play at the tip of a diamond, but couldn't get my head around how all your other players would fit into that. Kaka would have been perfect for your side because he can easily shine next to other playmakers and doesn't take anything away from their game. Plus the proven CL winning combination of Pirlo-Kaka of course:drool:

Mackay pick opens up that possibility with Kaka imo. Also, that Milan side didn't play a classic diamond, especially 2006/07 version. And agree, Pirlo - Kaka is a great combo especially because of Kaka style which allows other playmakers to shine.

But, I guess you get some, lose some when you have this type of drafts.
 
1. Tuppet - 1. Z. Zidane 2. L. Blanc 3. R. Keane 4. B. Robson 5. P. McGrath 6. D. Dzajic 7. D. Sekularac 8. L. Riva 9. M. Bossis 10. V. R. Andrade 11. R. Maspoli

2. Harms/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta 2. S. Eto'o 3. J. Zanetti 4. Lúcio 5. B. Schweinsteiger 6. I. Netto 7. L. Yashin 8. J. Litmanen 9. R. Koeman 10. T. Finney 11. B. Wright

3. Green_Smiley - 1. P. Nedved 2. E. Davids 3. C. Seedorf 4. D. Beckham 5. R. Ferdinand 6. D. Godin 7. D. Villa 8. E. Gerets 9. J. Greaves 10. A. Benarrivo 11. G. Pagliuca

4. Himannv - 1. B. Charlton 2. D. Law 3. J. Johnstone 4. G. Souness 5. P. Vierchowod 6. R. Giggs 7. E. Cantona 8. P. Janes 9. J. Charles 10. G. Zambrotta 11. V. Valdes

5. Don Alfredo - 1. D. Passarella 2. G. Bergomi 3. M. Tardelli 4. Z. Boniek 5. A. Cabrini 6. D. Edwards 7. H. Gregg 8. F. Totti 9. G. Bale 10. R. Kaka 11. R. Varane

6. Enigma - 1. K.H. Rummenigge 2. P. Breitner 3. K.H. Förster 4. J. Tigana 5. M. Amoros 6. Rivelino 7. Tostão 8. S. Marzolini 9. H. Chumpitaz 10. R. Rensenbrink 11. F. Van der Elst

7. Big Dunk - 1. G. Facchetti 2. C. Gentile 3. D. Zoff 4. G. Rivera 5. K. Hamrin 6. D. Santos 7. Gerson 8. G. Meazza 9. C. Ferrara 10. U. Stielike

8. Idmanager - 1. S. Kocsis 2. Z. Czibor 3. L. Suarez Miramontes 4. J. Pirri 5. J. Santamaria 6. S. Matthews 7. J. Armfield 8. J. Nasazzi 9. V. Vasovic 10. D. Alves

9. Mjj - 1. R. Baggio 2. J. Kohler 3. M. Sammer 4. A. Brehme 5. H-P. Briegel 6. B. Vogts 7. W. Overath 8. R. Kopa 9. V. Voronin 10. G. Nordahl

10. Jim Beam - 1. A. Pirlo 2. Cafu 3. G. Batistuta 4. O. Ruggeri 5. B. Schuster 6. T. Burgnich 7. S. Mazzola 8. D. Irwin 9. L. Modric 10. D. Mackay

11. Moby - 1. M. Laudrup 2. F. Redondo 3. Rivaldo 4. A. Shevchenko 5. J. Stam 6. N. Santos 7. Zito 8. M. Kaltz 9. W. Samuel 10. A. Picchi

12. PNut - 1. J. Neeskens 2. W. Suurbier 3. J.Rep 4. M. Kempes 5. U. Fillol 6. P. Scholes 7. A. Cole 8. Neymar 9. R. Marquez 10. A. Costacurta

13. 2Mufc0 - 1. R. Gullit 2. R. Krol 3. W. van Hanegem 4. P. Keizer 5. W. Jansen 6. C. Alberto 7. L. Junior 8. A. Robben 9. L. Monti 10. S. Campbell

14. Skizzo - 1. T. Henry 2. B. Lizarazu 3. C. Makelele 4. P. Vieira 5. G. Buffon 6. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 7. G.Netzer 8. O. Blokhin 9. B. Conti 10. D. McGrain

15. Indnyc - 1. Didi 2. F. Gento 3. L. Kubala 4. J. Bozsik 5. G.Grosics 6. U. Seeler 7. K.H. Schnellinger 8. P. Lahm 9. A. Shesternyov 10. R. Carvalho

16. Onenil - 1. M. Desailly 2. L. Thuram 3. F. Cannavaro 4. H. Stoichkov 5. L. Enrique 6. Jairzinho 7. M. Tresor 8. J. Masopust 9. P. Elkjaer 10. J. Camacho

@BIG DUNK
 
Thanks @Indnyc was on the phone.

I'm just updating the full name as someone might confuse him for the other van der Elst.

1. Tuppet
- 1. Z. Zidane 2. L. Blanc 3. R. Keane 4. B. Robson 5. P. McGrath 6. D. Dzajic 7. D. Sekularac 8. L. Riva 9. M. Bossis 10. V. R. Andrade 11. R. Maspoli

2. Harms/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta 2. S. Eto'o 3. J. Zanetti 4. Lúcio 5. B. Schweinsteiger 6. I. Netto 7. L. Yashin 8. J. Litmanen 9. R. Koeman 10. T. Finney 11. B. Wright

3. Green_Smiley - 1. P. Nedved 2. E. Davids 3. C. Seedorf 4. D. Beckham 5. R. Ferdinand 6. D. Godin 7. D. Villa 8. E. Gerets 9. J. Greaves 10. A. Benarrivo 11. G. Pagliuca

4. Himannv - 1. B. Charlton 2. D. Law 3. J. Johnstone 4. G. Souness 5. P. Vierchowod 6. R. Giggs 7. E. Cantona 8. P. Janes 9. J. Charles 10. G. Zambrotta 11. V. Valdes

5. Don Alfredo - 1. D. Passarella 2. G. Bergomi 3. M. Tardelli 4. Z. Boniek 5. A. Cabrini 6. D. Edwards 7. H. Gregg 8. F. Totti 9. G. Bale 10. R. Kaka 11. R. Varane

6. Enigma - 1. K.H. Rummenigge 2. P. Breitner 3. K.H. Förster 4. J. Tigana 5. M. Amoros 6. Rivelino 7. Tostão 8. S. Marzolini 9. H. Chumpitaz 10. R. Rensenbrink 11. François Van der Elst

7. Big Dunk - 1. G. Facchetti 2. C. Gentile 3. D. Zoff 4. G. Rivera 5. K. Hamrin 6. D. Santos 7. Gerson 8. G. Meazza 9. C. Ferrara 10. U. Stielike

8. Idmanager - 1. S. Kocsis 2. Z. Czibor 3. L. Suarez Miramontes 4. J. Pirri 5. J. Santamaria 6. S. Matthews 7. J. Armfield 8. J. Nasazzi 9. V. Vasovic 10. D. Alves

9. Mjj - 1. R. Baggio 2. J. Kohler 3. M. Sammer 4. A. Brehme 5. H-P. Briegel 6. B. Vogts 7. W. Overath 8. R. Kopa 9. V. Voronin 10. G. Nordahl

10. Jim Beam - 1. A. Pirlo 2. Cafu 3. G. Batistuta 4. O. Ruggeri 5. B. Schuster 6. T. Burgnich 7. S. Mazzola 8. D. Irwin 9. L. Modric 10. D. Mackay

11. Moby - 1. M. Laudrup 2. F. Redondo 3. Rivaldo 4. A. Shevchenko 5. J. Stam 6. N. Santos 7. Zito 8. M. Kaltz 9. W. Samuel 10. A. Picchi

12. PNut - 1. J. Neeskens 2. W. Suurbier 3. J.Rep 4. M. Kempes 5. U. Fillol 6. P. Scholes 7. A. Cole 8. Neymar 9. R. Marquez 10. A. Costacurta

13. 2Mufc0 - 1. R. Gullit 2. R. Krol 3. W. van Hanegem 4. P. Keizer 5. W. Jansen 6. C. Alberto 7. L. Junior 8. A. Robben 9. L. Monti 10. S. Campbell

14. Skizzo - 1. T. Henry 2. B. Lizarazu 3. C. Makelele 4. P. Vieira 5. G. Buffon 6. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 7. G.Netzer 8. O. Blokhin 9. B. Conti 10. D. McGrain

15. Indnyc - 1. Didi 2. F. Gento 3. L. Kubala 4. J. Bozsik 5. G.Grosics 6. U. Seeler 7. K.H. Schnellinger 8. P. Lahm 9. A. Shesternyov 10. R. Carvalho

16. Onenil - 1. M. Desailly 2. L. Thuram 3. F. Cannavaro 4. H. Stoichkov 5. L. Enrique 6. Jairzinho 7. M. Tresor 8. J. Masopust 9. P. Elkjaer 10. J. Camacho
 
Left my pick with harms, tuppet and Pillow
 
Just a heads up that I might not be very available over the next few weeks or so. My first child looks like he might be born a few weeks ahead of schedule so that throws most plans I have out the window. Just keeping you guys in the loop as well. I'll try to check in as much as I can.
 
Just a heads up that I might not be very available over the next few weeks or so. My first child looks like he might be born a few weeks ahead of schedule so that throws most plans I have out the window. Just keeping you guys in the loop as well. I'll try to check in as much as I can.
Might want to recruit an AM? Would be a shame for your drafting to go to waste.
 
Just a heads up that I might not be very available over the next few weeks or so. My first child looks like he might be born a few weeks ahead of schedule so that throws most plans I have out the window. Just keeping you guys in the loop as well. I'll try to check in as much as I can.
Congratulations and all the best mate!
 
Just a heads up that I might not be very available over the next few weeks or so. My first child looks like he might be born a few weeks ahead of schedule so that throws most plans I have out the window. Just keeping you guys in the loop as well. I'll try to check in as much as I can.
Congratulations! Will find you an AM
 
1. Tuppet - 1. Z. Zidane 2. L. Blanc 3. R. Keane 4. B. Robson 5. P. McGrath 6. D. Dzajic 7. D. Sekularac 8. L. Riva 9. M. Bossis 10. V. R. Andrade 11. R. Maspoli

2. Harms/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta 2. S. Eto'o 3. J. Zanetti 4. Lúcio 5. B. Schweinsteiger 6. I. Netto 7. L. Yashin 8. J. Litmanen 9. R. Koeman 10. T. Finney 11. B. Wright

3. Green_Smiley - 1. P. Nedved 2. E. Davids 3. C. Seedorf 4. D. Beckham 5. R. Ferdinand 6. D. Godin 7. D. Villa 8. E. Gerets 9. J. Greaves 10. A. Benarrivo 11. G. Pagliuca

4. Himannv - 1. B. Charlton 2. D. Law 3. J. Johnstone 4. G. Souness 5. P. Vierchowod 6. R. Giggs 7. E. Cantona 8. P. Janes 9. J. Charles 10. G. Zambrotta 11. V. Valdes

5. Don Alfredo - 1. D. Passarella 2. G. Bergomi 3. M. Tardelli 4. Z. Boniek 5. A. Cabrini 6. D. Edwards 7. H. Gregg 8. F. Totti 9. G. Bale 10. R. Kaka 11. R. Varane

6. Enigma - 1. K.H. Rummenigge 2. P. Breitner 3. K.H. Förster 4. J. Tigana 5. M. Amoros 6. Rivelino 7. Tostão 8. S. Marzolini 9. H. Chumpitaz 10. R. Rensenbrink 11. François Van der Elst

7. Big Dunk - 1. G. Facchetti 2. C. Gentile 3. D. Zoff 4. G. Rivera 5. K. Hamrin 6. D. Santos 7. Gerson 8. G. Meazza 9. C. Ferrara 10. U. Stielike

8. Idmanager - 1. S. Kocsis 2. Z. Czibor 3. L. Suarez Miramontes 4. J. Pirri 5. J. Santamaria 6. S. Matthews 7. J. Armfield 8. J. Nasazzi 9. V. Vasovic 10. D. Alves 11. E. Abidal

9. Mjj - 1. R. Baggio 2. J. Kohler 3. M. Sammer 4. A. Brehme 5. H-P. Briegel 6. B. Vogts 7. W. Overath 8. R. Kopa 9. V. Voronin 10. G. Nordahl 11. L. Buffon

10. Jim Beam - 1. A. Pirlo 2. Cafu 3. G. Batistuta 4. O. Ruggeri 5. B. Schuster 6. T. Burgnich 7. S. Mazzola 8. D. Irwin 9. L. Modric 10. D. Mackay

11. Moby - 1. M. Laudrup 2. F. Redondo 3. Rivaldo 4. A. Shevchenko 5. J. Stam 6. N. Santos 7. Zito 8. M. Kaltz 9. W. Samuel 10. A. Picchi

12. PNut - 1. J. Neeskens 2. W. Suurbier 3. J.Rep 4. M. Kempes 5. U. Fillol 6. P. Scholes 7. A. Cole 8. Neymar 9. R. Marquez 10. A. Costacurta

13. 2Mufc0 - 1. R. Gullit 2. R. Krol 3. W. van Hanegem 4. P. Keizer 5. W. Jansen 6. C. Alberto 7. L. Junior 8. A. Robben 9. L. Monti 10. S. Campbell

14. Skizzo - 1. T. Henry 2. B. Lizarazu 3. C. Makelele 4. P. Vieira 5. G. Buffon 6. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 7. G.Netzer 8. O. Blokhin 9. B. Conti 10. D. McGrain

15. Indnyc - 1. Didi 2. F. Gento 3. L. Kubala 4. J. Bozsik 5. G.Grosics 6. U. Seeler 7. K.H. Schnellinger 8. P. Lahm 9. A. Shesternyov 10. R. Carvalho

16. Onenil - 1. M. Desailly 2. L. Thuram 3. F. Cannavaro 4. H. Stoichkov 5. L. Enrique 6. Jairzinho 7. M. Tresor 8. J. Masopust 9. P. Elkjaer 10. J. Camacho
 
Just a heads up that I might not be very available over the next few weeks or so. My first child looks like he might be born a few weeks ahead of schedule so that throws most plans I have out the window. Just keeping you guys in the loop as well. I'll try to check in as much as I can.

Congratulations. Hope you find a good nanny for your baby and your team.
Hopefully this wraps up before September as mine is 3-4 weeks away as well ;)
 
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Northern Ireland's safest pair of hands


1. Tuppet - 1. Z. Zidane 2. L. Blanc 3. R. Keane 4. B. Robson 5. P. McGrath 6. D. Dzajic 7. D. Sekularac 8. L. Riva 9. M. Bossis 10. V. R. Andrade 11. R. Maspoli

2. Harms/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta 2. S. Eto'o 3. J. Zanetti 4. Lúcio 5. B. Schweinsteiger 6. I. Netto 7. L. Yashin 8. J. Litmanen 9. R. Koeman 10. T. Finney 11. B. Wright

3. Green_Smiley - 1. P. Nedved 2. E. Davids 3. C. Seedorf 4. D. Beckham 5. R. Ferdinand 6. D. Godin 7. D. Villa 8. E. Gerets 9. J. Greaves 10. A. Benarrivo 11. G. Pagliuca

4. Himannv - 1. B. Charlton 2. D. Law 3. J. Johnstone 4. G. Souness 5. P. Vierchowod 6. R. Giggs 7. E. Cantona 8. P. Janes 9. J. Charles 10. G. Zambrotta 11. V. Valdes

5. Don Alfredo - 1. D. Passarella 2. G. Bergomi 3. M. Tardelli 4. Z. Boniek 5. A. Cabrini 6. D. Edwards 7. H. Gregg 8. F. Totti 9. G. Bale 10. R. Kaka 11. R. Varane

6. Enigma - 1. K.H. Rummenigge 2. P. Breitner 3. K.H. Förster 4. J. Tigana 5. M. Amoros 6. Rivelino 7. Tostão 8. S. Marzolini 9. H. Chumpitaz 10. R. Rensenbrink 11. François Van der Elst

7. Big Dunk - 1. G. Facchetti 2. C. Gentile 3. D. Zoff 4. G. Rivera 5. K. Hamrin 6. D. Santos 7. Gerson 8. G. Meazza 9. C. Ferrara 10. U. Stielike

8. Idmanager - 1. S. Kocsis 2. Z. Czibor 3. L. Suarez Miramontes 4. J. Pirri 5. J. Santamaria 6. S. Matthews 7. J. Armfield 8. J. Nasazzi 9. V. Vasovic 10. D. Alves 11. E. Abidal

9. Mjj - 1. R. Baggio 2. J. Kohler 3. M. Sammer 4. A. Brehme 5. H-P. Briegel 6. B. Vogts 7. W. Overath 8. R. Kopa 9. V. Voronin 10. G. Nordahl 11. L. Buffon

10. Jim Beam - 1. A. Pirlo 2. Cafu 3. G. Batistuta 4. O. Ruggeri 5. B. Schuster 6. T. Burgnich 7. S. Mazzola 8. D. Irwin 9. L. Modric 10. D. Mackay 11. P. Jennings

11. Moby - 1. M. Laudrup 2. F. Redondo 3. Rivaldo 4. A. Shevchenko 5. J. Stam 6. N. Santos 7. Zito 8. M. Kaltz 9. W. Samuel 10. A. Picchi

12. PNut - 1. J. Neeskens 2. W. Suurbier 3. J.Rep 4. M. Kempes 5. U. Fillol 6. P. Scholes 7. A. Cole 8. Neymar 9. R. Marquez 10. A. Costacurta

13. 2Mufc0 - 1. R. Gullit 2. R. Krol 3. W. van Hanegem 4. P. Keizer 5. W. Jansen 6. C. Alberto 7. L. Junior 8. A. Robben 9. L. Monti 10. S. Campbell

14. Skizzo - 1. T. Henry 2. B. Lizarazu 3. C. Makelele 4. P. Vieira 5. G. Buffon 6. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 7. G.Netzer 8. O. Blokhin 9. B. Conti 10. D. McGrain

15. Indnyc - 1. Didi 2. F. Gento 3. L. Kubala 4. J. Bozsik 5. G.Grosics 6. U. Seeler 7. K.H. Schnellinger 8. P. Lahm 9. A. Shesternyov 10. R. Carvalho

16. Onenil - 1. M. Desailly 2. L. Thuram 3. F. Cannavaro 4. H. Stoichkov 5. L. Enrique 6. Jairzinho 7. M. Tresor 8. J. Masopust 9. P. Elkjaer 10. J. Camacho

@Moby