Didn't finish as well as it started.
Television True Detective | Season 2 Spoilers
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The finish is still great though, just not the master class that the start is.
@Pogue Mahone loved the finish.
Finished watching it the other day, loved it.
Rust and Marty's chemistry was excellent, I've enjoyed a few Woody Harrelson's films over the years, so know he's a good actor but other than Texas Chainsaw Massacre I've never really saw Matthew McConaughey in anything before, but yeah thought he and Rust's whole character was great.
Rust and Marty's chemistry was excellent, I've enjoyed a few Woody Harrelson's films over the years, so know he's a good actor but other than Texas Chainsaw Massacre I've never really saw Matthew McConaughey in anything before, but yeah thought he and Rust's whole character was great.
Its absolutely sensational throughout, from opening minute to close. Fantastic show, but a little worried about season 2.
The last few episodes were a bit disappointing, mainly because they wrapped up things so quickly and in a way shallow, where so much depth was promised.
Yeah looking back at comments read a few people say last few shows were disappointing, I can't see how it was disappointing, last 2 shows i thought was great, only thing i was a little disappointed about was how 'the man with the scars' looked, was expecting someone resembling the Great Khali but he was just a small fat guy imitating different accents, the woman (sister/mother) he was with was more creepy.
All about opinions though i guess, seen current season Walking Dead getting slammed on here, but imo this season's the best it's been since season since season 1.
All about opinions though i guess, seen current season Walking Dead getting slammed on here, but imo this season's the best it's been since season since season 1.
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Well he wasn't small.
Well last two eps were still great.. it was just that they spend like 3/4 of the show on the introduction, painting a complex picture, hinting at a thousand things and then they suddenly just wrapped it up in two episodes, straight foward. Still easily a 10/10, but I feel like the show really should've had a couple of more eps.
Very true, we never got close to getting some questions answered regarding the whole cult. It just was about one monster in the end. Massively disappointed by the finale and I don't understand how the writers couldn't have expected this. You give such a compelling story to end it like that ? I know they said their show was about the resolution of all the crimes committed on all those children but still felt hollow in the end.
I think most of the cult is supposed to have passed away. Tuttle was the last of that generation and Errol was his bastard child that managed to survive an abusive childhood and deflected to it.
There was an awful lot of nonsense in the resolution that had nothing to do with the lone pervert vs cult conundrum. How about the idea that painting a house green is a plausible explanation for having green ears, for starters?
I painted my house. I managed not to spill paint on both my ears. That's because I used a roller, held in my hands. Did they think he held it in his mouth?
I painted my house. I managed not to spill paint on both my ears. That's because I used a roller, held in my hands. Did they think he held it in his mouth?
Maybe but still many questions unanswered. What about all those things with Marty's daughters and their dolls ?
That was so stupid, how the hell can I writer come up with a resolution like that with a straight face ?
Doesn't his ex-wife kind of tell him in the end when he is on his recovery bed that his older daughter was mentally unstable and her boyfriend was doing a great job with her? There might be more there, which might not be related to the main storyline but the dolls and then later her getting caught with alcohol and a couple of teenagers was more to illustrate that Marty was a bit of a deadbeat dad in some aspects.
I agree that the ending seemed a bit rushed, could be down to them not getting too many episodes okay-ed by the network to begin with but I did not really feel I was robbed of a proper conclusion after investing myself into the show.
I kind of thought of it from the child's perspective who was describing the monster that chased her, a little bit of paint on his ears might have stuck in her mind or he could deliberately have painted himself to be scarier as he was a disturbed fecker to begin with. They also called him a spaghetti monster because of the scars to his lower face.
The scars thing made sense. The green ears was just stupid. Even if we accept it was the product of a kid's hyperactive imagination it was the detective making a leap from green ears to green painted houses that was fecking absurd.
And that's not even getting into the craziness of an old lady in a nursing home remembering the precise cost, to the nearest dollar.
That's actually more common than you'd think. I know a few people with photographic memory and it really is astonishing.
My Gran used to always talk about how much she paid for this or that, not sure how much was accurate but any story of hers that involved her spending money she would throw some figure out, nothing outrageous, but she always seemed to know how much everything cost no matter how long ago she bought it. Whenever she talked about my Grandfather passing, she would always get around to mentioning his funeral costs down to the penny. He died around 1964, she passed around 1994.
Convenient that one of those people would end up in a nursing home with undimmed faculties, right?
Every single explanation is incomplete for me, I mean I'm not saying they should have detailed everything of course but too much has been left unanswered for me. I'm not talking about the scene with the dolls impersonating a gang rape and that was when his daughters were very young. Did something happen to them ? Did they hear about it ? Did they witness it ?
Finished it yesterday and thought that it was overall excellent. Some of the best stuff I've seen on TV for some episodes (I think episode 5 might have been my favourite, though of course end of episode 4 left me breathless), and the atmosphère, acting, music, the superb cinematography, the setting in Louisiana, the opening credits, all contributed to making it an pretty creepy experience. I've read quite a bit of this thread and while I agree with some of the comments in here about the finale being a bit of a letdown, people were going a bit too overboard (for me) in their criticism, but maybe that's because I watched it all in 3-4 days without really building up any ridiculous expectations in between the episodes. I liked how the show is a 3 act film in a way, extremely dark at first and just a bit more optimistic at the end, and wasn't bothered at all with the change in Rust's character in the end, I thought McConaughey pulled it off with his excellent acting.
I also thought that a lot of the 'subplots' people have been criticizing in retrospect should be considered from the point of view of 'what do they bring to the character development of the main protagonist', especially Marty's family stuff. The daughter threesome and her being imbalanced seems random but was important in portraying what type of person Marty was.
I also enjoyed how quite a bit of it was left unanswered, the whole conspiracy and cult stuff, left it with an air of mystery.
Overall I really enjoyed it for what it was and I'll re-watch it with pleasure.
I also thought that a lot of the 'subplots' people have been criticizing in retrospect should be considered from the point of view of 'what do they bring to the character development of the main protagonist', especially Marty's family stuff. The daughter threesome and her being imbalanced seems random but was important in portraying what type of person Marty was.
I also enjoyed how quite a bit of it was left unanswered, the whole conspiracy and cult stuff, left it with an air of mystery.
Overall I really enjoyed it for what it was and I'll re-watch it with pleasure.
I read in some year end review (I think Grantland) that the pace of the show goes with how Rust's character is feeling at that particular point in time. It starts off slow at first when Rust is popping pills and abusing alcohol, then transitions into a rapid pace when he starts doing coke and moves into his bike gang "Crash" character and reaches weird stages in the end when he is all but ready to collapse mentally from years of alcohol and drug abuse. I thought that was a pretty good view.
Yeah, the criticism was well over the top in my view. The show was always about the characters for me and the plot itself felt a bit secondary. Probably why the ending didn't disappoint me.
I definitely found the end of the show disappointing after the first 5 or so episodes, especially the green ears thing, but the bolded part of your post is what made it so good. All of that was so spot on and is the reason I'll be watching it again. It's an amazing show and is easily better than almost anything else out there on TV.
If you watch it already knowing people have felt let down by the ending you're bound to love it. It's a superb series and the ending only sucked when you held it up to the high standards that had been set up until that point. It was such gripping, intelligent TV it deserved an ending to match. The loose ends, non sequiturs, rushed conclusion and generic bogey man villain were disappointing but not enough to totally take the gloss off a fantastic series.
This perfectly sums up True Detective. Ending, in my opinion, was terrible. The writing was so fantastic that for it to end the way it did felt like a cop-out. Just competely underwhelming. Still a great show overall, though.
Watched it again. Absolutely brilliant. The acting, the story, the way Louisiana was captured, like some kind of weird, stifling, sweltering bible bashing looney asylum. Amazing show.
Not far from the truth, in some of the Southern areas of the country...
The ending of the show worked, and I was happy with it.
The whole premise of the show walks the line between occult/realism and ethereal/material. The ending is just a continuation of that theme. If they removed all ambiguity, I doubt we'd like the show as much.
The whole premise of the show walks the line between occult/realism and ethereal/material. The ending is just a continuation of that theme. If they removed all ambiguity, I doubt we'd like the show as much.
Pretty much how I felt about it. That Nazi cop raid was daft and totally unnecessary too. The worst part of the ending for me was Rust getting some spiritual resolution.
They really didn't need to Hollywood up the show.
How was that unnecessary? That's how they tailed Ladoux's cousin/partner and got to the safe house where they were holding the kids.
I mean the whole implausible action sequence that ensued. The show initially was just really great dark drama but sadly evolved into a more cliched Hollywood action piece. After four episodes I was convinced it was the greatest show ever but it left me feeling a little disappointed.
It's been awhile and I've only watched the whole thing once, but I remember Rust was once a religious man who lost faith. So I found the ending to be acceptable if he re-found his faith after finally solving the case and getting severely injured in the process. I'm not religious myself but I do think that if you put your faith and beliefs behind a religion, it sticks with you, perhaps subconsciously, throughout your entire life. That Rust saw the light during his coma didn't seem as far fetched as some critics seem to make it. I was actually more disappointed that the real killer had already been called out on numerous forums by the fourth or fifth episode. I remember laughing it off at the time 
Reading through the thread and this made me laugh again.
When does season 2 air?
It has to be soon hopefully
Will start on HBO after Game of Thrones finishes in June
Feck, that's too long.
for feck sake
For some reason I've found myself watching S1 for the 3rd time.
I doubt I'll finish it this time but the first few episodes are so beautifully shot and full of great scenes that it's still really enjoyable to watch.
I doubt I'll finish it this time but the first few episodes are so beautifully shot and full of great scenes that it's still really enjoyable to watch.