Seems to me that he was always at his best when he had a midfielder that took care of all of his defensive responsibilities for him, namely Henderson.
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Is that why Spanish teams routinely dominate and outclass English teams in Europe? People think the gulf between the top couple teams and the rest of Spain means the whole country is crap, no, it just means those teams make more money and can invest more, but your average midtable Spanish team is talented and technically sound, and they seem to have no trouble taking out top English teams in Europe.
If you attack him, he has some obvious flaws. Firstly, he is quite slow on the first 10 yards, so if you are quick, you can easily get away from him. Secondly, he is neither very strong, so if you have great physicality, you can basically outpace or outmuscle him on the ball or to the ball. Thirdly, his positional sense for a defender is atrocious. He's been saved by Konate's pace in the past, but against United, Konate didn't look like his normal self, and Dalot is very fast, so we capitalised on it. Other teams will target him now!
Poor Fede.
I dont really care if liverpool extend his contract. Whereas i really, really want Salah and Van Dijk to go away. Much younger player, much more time left in the game but he's just not on their level. Bit of a flat track bully where he's good if he doesn't need to defend but will be a liability in a competitive game.
Even that being the case, that still means he wasn't this huge liability, yeah?
The Premier League as a whole is far stronger than La Liga. Sure, the top 6-8 La Liga teams (at best) are competitive, but beyond that, the Premier League’s depth is pretty much unrivalled.
When you mention Spanish teams dominating or being relatively successful in Europe, it’s the same handful of clubs doing so—Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Sevilla and occasionally Bilbao/Sociedad/Celta level sides. These are established teams with resources, not a reflection of the league as a whole. In the Premier League, you see teams like West Ham winning the Europa Conference League or clubs like Leicester City making waves in Europe. The competitiveness and quality run deeper.
Your argument about superior technical ability also doesn’t seem relevant. Do you genuinely believe the bottom 10 La Liga teams can attract or afford players of the same caliber as those in the lower half of the Premier League? Not a chance. The financial disparity is massive. Premier League clubs—even mid-to-lower-tier ones—have the spending power to bring in technically gifted players from all over the world. That’s a luxury most La Liga sides don’t have.
Yes, Spanish players might generally have a higher technical ceiling than their English counterparts, but that’s missing the point. The Premier League isn’t reliant solely on English talent. It’s one of the most diverse league in the world, and that global talent pool makes even the lower-tier teams capable of competing at a high level. La Liga sides outside the top 6 simply can’t match that or if they can it’s for a relatively small period.
Which Kyle Walker leaving City should make TAA a big offer to go there when his contract expires in the summer
It would be a huge no and leave City looking like fools, no way TAA go a rival club.
With the money and incentives City can offer him dont be so sure
Trent has agreed a deal with sneaky Madrid a long time ago
They said that about Leny Yoro
True, but if it had been a free, he would have ended up there too.
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Was obvious when he was hanging out of the back of Bellingham and Mbappe in the summer
I’d pat him on the back for bravery …. As he’d be hated by Liverpool more than Sol Campbell was when he moved to Spurs
City have known for a while now that Walker needs replacing, this is no shock. I'm sure Pep would like Arnold but it looks like probably 80% Madrid, 20% Liverpool, won't be anyone else in the mix.
A unique player, he can go from being skinned one minute to playing some of the best passes you'll ever see in the next one. Some of his passing was absolutely sublime in that second half, Salah had an off day though.
Jeeezus
I'll have some of what Warnock is smoking.
Just when you thought Warnock couldn’t paint his teeth any whiter…
Yeah, he's great...and he's leaving for free motherfeckers!!
Jeeezus
I'll have some of what Warnock is smoking.
Most overrated footballer on the planet, and I do mean that literally.
Jeeezus
I'll have some of what Warnock is smoking.
Excellent.
God I hope he fecking leaves. He is massive for Liverpool.
If he leaves and with Salah/Van Dijk being 33/34 next season, maybe the cnuts will have to do a proper rebuild.
If he leaves and with Salah/Van Dijk being 33/34 next season, maybe the cnuts will have to do a proper rebuild.
Jeeezus
I'll have some of what Warnock is smoking.
They let just any old numpty on there these days
Real Madrid are gonna take Trent and Van Dijk, from Liverpool, for free
Might as well get Salah as well
Jeeezus
I'll have some of what Warnock is smoking.
There is recency bias, and then there is whatever this is.
I think it's just Liverpool fan bias?
Oof. Imagine that.
We're signing Trent but the CB should be Huijsen
Though I wouldn't mind Virgil either!
Though I wouldn't mind Virgil either!
Plus Konte in summer 2026. Dont know if they will bother with Kelleher.
Absolutely useless defensively.
He had a decent game overall yesterday.
Surprisingly so, but overall he struggles one on one and positionallly.
There was some decent moments actually, a well defended 1v1 against Kvara and then he dealt with that ball over the top really well (can't remember who was chasing over his shoulder, maybe Barcola). Not sure this is the game to highlight his defensive frailties to be honest.
But he was really poor in possession yesterday. To be fair Liverpool never really got a foot in the game and ahold of the ball for any significant period of time as a team, but it seemed every time he got on the ball he tried to look for the Hollywood direct pass downfield and gave it away.
Played well defensively yesterday. They were all over us and he did well.
I think he looked better yesterday as the scouse were getting battered so hard and camped in, there was no room for him to go wandering and leaving the massive gaps behind
I've never blamed him for that. It's his job description, just as it is Konates to cover for him.
The issue has always been how easily beaten he is in direct duels, and secondly his concentration. If he could get a grip on that, he'd be good as his anticipation and reading of the game is mostly excellent.
His biggest issue is his lack of effort and tracking back at times.
When he is commited to defending he can be decent. Never one of the best, but capable.