Apologies. I was wrong. I got confused because Belgium and Netherlands both has a "Jupiler" league! He's only played in Netherlands.Can’t find anything on him having played in Belgium?
Extend to 2022, fill more urgent squad needs (CB, DM) then all out for Haaland.
Personally I was expecting Mbappe to sign 2-year extension with PSG for months. Haaland, I think his 'team' would rather make one more transfer (Chelsea?) before he eventually joins Real but who knows.Plan A seems to be to sell players, hope that PSG want to negotiate and beg Mbappé to accept less, or much less money, compared to PSG renewal offer.
He said that Mbappé has to analyze the projection that Madrid gives him, etc.
Surely since they know that it is very difficult they begin to talk about Haaland
The difference this season is that we have not made a big sale, but we will have to do it throughout this year if we want to build a great squad again. Once the season is over we will surely have offers for the players and that decision will have to be made.
I am never a supporter, by concept, of improving [the salary and release clause of] a player who has had a good season in his first year. Because past returns do not guarantee future returns and because if you increase the termination clause you do so in amounts that no one is going to pay; and raising a player’s salary to raise a clause to amounts that no one would pay…sometimes, it’s not a good choice.
[On his contract situation] I hope we will find a solution soon! I feel good here; I feel that I can give more to Lyon. Over time, I hope that we will find a good solution. Liverpool? My agent spoke with them, but I feel good here. My dream is to win the championship with Lyon.
Yes, I thought about that too, renew and get some kind of agreement to be sold later. I certainly do not believe that he will stay another year without renewing.Personally I was expecting Mbappe to sign 2-year extension with PSG for months. Haaland, I think his 'team' would rather make one more transfer (Chelsea?) before he eventually joins Real but who knows.
Extend to 2022, fill more urgent squad needs (CB, DM) then all out for Haaland.
I just cant see anyway we will end up signing haaland.This all day.
I just cant see anyway we will end up signing haaland.
We could go for him this summer but would have to pay a huge fee. If we wait until next summer whne his buyout clause is active, every big club in europe will want him and we will be way down the list
It’s difficult to believe this. If United honestly have the funds available to land their targets, which is what we always hear, but we rarely seem to actually land our primary targets, would the owners not have replaced those responsible for recruitment / negotiations long ago? I just don’t believe it. I think the backing is there, but only within certain parameters. There‘s obviously a budget. That, in and of itself, isn’t unreasonable - all teams should operate within their means - the problem is our budget is never enough to get what the Managers have asked for and to fill the holes in the squad.
I agree with you. I’m not suggesting that we have some inherent right to land every hot prospect in world football. Further, no club lands every player they would like to sign.Well we’re not the only club in the game, and a player can only sign for one at a time! Not many clubs land all their primary targets. Especially at the top end. The talent is few, and the best clubs all want the same players.
There is nobody that needs to be sacked if we fail to sign all the 120m players.
I agree with you. I’m not suggesting that we have some inherent right to land every hot prospect in world football. Further, no club lands every player they would like to sign.
That said, with United, a clear pattern has developed. Big talk, and relatively poor delivery. Our Managers rarely seem to get the players they actually want, and we’ve had glaring holes in the team that have been ignored for years. Look at Ole this past summer, coming off the back of a third place finish. Do you think he was backed? I’m quite sure he didn’t ask the owners for two extremely young wingers who won’t play a meaningful minute of Premier League football, a midfielder who can’t get a game, and a 33 year old striker with a history of injury problems.
So, in your view the best Ole could have hoped for last summer is one player, a 33 year old free agent striker who was signed at the deadline, who would actually play a meaningful role in the first team squad? Please. I’m not suggesting that DVB and Diallo won’t prove to be good players down the road, but they’ve been of no use this season. I refuse to believe that either were on Ole’s list.No disrespect, but did you stick your head out of the window at all last summer? He got as much as he could have reasonably hoped for in the circumstances. No, he didn’t get a 120m Sancho and a 60m Upamecano - but nobody did, for very obvious reasons.
I’ve said this on here a few times - but we’ve broken every record in British football over and over in recent years. Fans have short memories and tend to throw their toys in my opinion. Ole has only been here a short time, and in that period, he’s gotten his first choice centre half (who the club made the most expensive defender in football history), likewise his first choice right back, who they spent £45m on. He got Bruno last January for £50m too. Last summer, I imagine his list of first choices cost about £200m at least. As you would have seen, we couldn’t even get rid of any cast offs, it’s not a time to throw a strop about it IMO - we have to be fiscally sensible.
Yup. Last window was a total waste.So, in your view the best Ole could have hoped for last summer is one player, a 33 year old free agent striker who was signed at the deadline, who would actually play a meaningful role in the first team squad? Please. I’m not suggesting that DVB and Diallo won’t prove to be good players down the road, but they’ve been of no use this season. I refuse to believe that either were on Ole’s list.
I’m neither throwing my toys out, nor suggesting that the owners haven’t spent any money. The pattern is clear, though. Overpromise and underdeliver in the market. Its happened time and time again over the years since Sir Alex and David Gill left. The owners spend money when their backs are against the wall, but drop the ball when it comes to building on success. That’s why I have no patience for the rhetoric. It’s just empty words at this point. I‘d much prefer Ole, Woodward, and anyone else involved just refrain from commenting publicly about our capabilities in the market.
You don't think Greenwood could pick that up in two years time?I don't see us getting him either but we have to try and I don't see us paying what it would take this summer, the truth is go past Haaland and Calvert-Lewin and the striker options are completely mediocre.
The fact is we probably didnt get any of his first choices, i dont think anyone was expecting £200m spend but one first choice cd or rw wpuld have been niceNo disrespect, but did you stick your head out of the window at all last summer? He got as much as he could have reasonably hoped for in the circumstances. No, he didn’t get a 120m Sancho and a 60m Upamecano - but nobody did, for very obvious reasons.
I’ve said this on here a few times - but we’ve broken every record in British football over and over in recent years. Fans have short memories and tend to throw their toys in my opinion. Ole has only been here a short time, and in that period, he’s gotten his first choice centre half (who the club made the most expensive defender in football history), likewise his first choice right back, who they spent £45m on. He got Bruno last January for £50m too. Last summer, I imagine his list of first choices cost about £200m at least. As you would have seen, we couldn’t even get rid of any cast offs, it’s not a time to throw a strop about it IMO - we have to be fiscally sensible.
The fact is we probably didnt get any of his first choices, i dont think anyone was expecting £200m spend but one first choice cd or rw wpuld have been nice
As the previous poster mentioned we do consistently overpromise and under deliver. Thats why i think all this talk of signing haaland or sancho this summer is quite fanciful
We tend not to spend much when we qualify for the champions league anyway and there is COVID on top of that
Even when we do spend money we rarely seem to get it right, bruno excepted. I certainly cant remember the last time we signed a player like haaland that is in demand across europe
You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say signing sancho or haaland this summer is realistic but that those criticising last summers spending need to be more realistic give the impact of covid. Clearly that impact hasnt gone away this seasonGetting it right or whatever is shifting the argument. Getting who the manager wanted is another conversation, and many fans seem to constantly make the assertion that this doesn’t happen largely because the players the manager wants is not the player that they themselves want. So they see the player THEY want as the one we ‘failed’ to sign. You say ‘one CB or RW would have been nice’. Nice for who? You or Ole? We spent £85m and signed neither of those positions. You have chosen to conclude that is the manager not being backed as opposed to the manager not prioritising what you are prioritising. Also, clubs with long term thinking don’t just ‘buy a CB or RW’. They know who they want to fill those positions. If they can’t get them in one summer, but they feel they can get them the following - they won’t just buy someone else instead. They may simply love to other positions where they CAN get who they want that summer.
Since Ole has come, Maguire, AWB and Bruno at least have been his first choice by all accounts, and he’s only had two summers.
We have spent a lot of money. Sancho and Haaland are not ‘fanciful’ for a club that has broken every transfer record in the country in the post Fergie years. We’ve broken the British record with Di Maria, world record with Pogba, world teenager record with Shaw, then Martial, world defender record with Maguire - yet moaning fans keep trying to push this narrative of everyone except us will spend money. Signings turning out successful is a total different conversation, but we back our managers. We are a club that needs to be sensible - and can’t spend £200m in a pandemic, and tbh - I have no idea why anyone keeps mentioning last summer when the circumstances were beyond obvious. The type of players we wanted were not available, so we didn’t just go any buy others - we chose to wait.
You don't think Greenwood could pick that up in two years time?
More than the transfer budget, our problem probably is the number of subpar players we have on our payroll with huge contracts, although we have started addressing this under Ole.
We have also extended the contracts of a number of subpar, overpaid players during oles reign including that massive contract for de gea. So wouldnt exactly say we are making great strides in this areaMore than the transfer budget, our problem probably is the number of subpar players we have on our payroll with huge contracts, although we have started addressing this under Ole.
Will we unpause it? Will it play automatically because we’ve left it too long on pause? Will Phil Jones ruin everything by eating the remote?
Will we unpause it? Will it play automatically because we’ve left it too long on pause? Will Phil Jones ruin everything by eating the remote?
I think we need a CB most. And unless the striker is Haaland I agree a RW is required. Wouldn't imagine us passing over Sancho for anyone outside of Haaland.Basically we can't afford or won't pay to fill in all the gaps this summer. Yet another CB and a striker, where we have currently 3/4 players (Cavani, Martial, Greenwood & maybe Rashford).
Basically we can't afford or won't pay to fill in all the gaps this summer. Yet another CB and a striker, where we have currently 3/4 players (Cavani, Martial, Greenwood & maybe Rashford).
