Transfer Tweets - 2020/21 | Check the OP for blacklisted sources before posting

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Robbie Boy]

Yes i was taking the piss out of the people who always moan about other teams making immediate transfers when ours take ages. Of course they don't follow city or Liverpool or Chelsea gossip for months on end so don't realise it's the same for every club.

Ah ok yeah I've noticed that nonsense on here alright.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

He's a joke. Maybe people are just craving Sancho news on here.

Him and Delaney are useless. I would be all for putting both on the ban list.

 

[romufc]

It seems like that because fans like yourself can’t keep your shit together.

These are all the players we have signed post-Fergie -

Fellaini
Mata (January)
Shaw
Herrera
Rojo
Blind (no pre-season)
Di Maria (no pre-season)
Falcao (no pre-season)
Romero
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlein
Depay
Darmian
Martial (no pre-season)
Ibrahimovic
Mkhitaryan
Pogba (no pre-season)
Bailly
Lukaku
Matic (no pre-season)
Lindelof
Sanchez (January)
Fred
Dalot
Grant
Wan-Bissaka
James
Maguire (No pre-season)
Fernandes (January)

18 of 29 were signed in time to have a pre-season with us, of the other 11, 3 were January signings, 2 were deadline say deals with no saga at all (Martial and Falcao) and Pogba was on holiday post World Cup, and didn’t do pre-season with Juve either. Di Maria had no pre-season but deal spent no more than a week in the news either.

It’s just that one week of pressing refresh seems like a lifetime to many fans!

So the list clearly shows, we cannot sign quality players quick enough..

I always see this excuse of "he is on holiday" used.

Nathan Ake is on holiday, them being on holiday does not stop teams negotiating with other teams. Personal contracts are more or less negotiated well before bids go in. there is no point negotiating a transfer fee when the player will say no, makes the club look weak.

E.g. Maguire contract was agreed before the fee

 

[Rozay]

Funny how many of the bigger names who would be (or were atleast intended to be) important players had no pre-season. We dicked around for almost all of January before signing Bruno aswell.

And where are you drawing the line for having a good pre-season? Full tour/carrington practices? There is an Athletic article about United's transfers methods/contract dealings which I found highly interesting, every little change to deals has to be passed through to America for approval etc, the club are fully aware their methods drag things out.

I thought the line would be pretty standard. If players are signed in time to go on tour with us, what’s the issue? How early do they have to be signed? And the Athletic have an article on everything. That’s what they do, talk too much and over-analyse as they have to write about something. The reality is the vast majority of our deals have been done in a timely matter, the facts prove that.

And it’s no coincidence at all that players we signed for a lot of money from the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus and Chelsea, and world record transfers, were not signed in a couple of days. And even then, Di Maria WAS signed in a few days. And Martial and Falcao signed in a few hours, but after pre-season had ended. Basically, the notion that we are slower than everyone else in the market is a myth and stands up to no scrutiny at all, just like several other myths perpetuated about us.

 

[Thisistheone]

Yeah he’s a bit rapid, leftie, good on the ball and decent passing range. Bit thin imo, might get bullied in the premier league, but who knows how he’d adapt? Looks decent enough, not sure he’d be worth the touted 65 million, as not seen him play that often.

Cheers. Could bulk up I suppose.

 

[Infra-red]

Cheers. Could bulk up I suppose.

He's useless in the air so might not be the best fit with Lindelof. He'd be a decent partner for Maguire, though.

 

[Rozay]

So the list clearly shows, we cannot sign quality players quick enough..

I always see this excuse of "he is on holiday" used.

Nathan Ake is on holiday, them being on holiday does not stop teams negotiating with other teams. Personal contracts are more or less negotiated well before bids go in. there is no point negotiating a transfer fee when the player will say no, makes the club look weak.

E.g. Maguire contract was agreed before the fee

Why do you think you always see the excuse of ‘he’s on holiday’ used? Maybe because the players were on holiday?

I used it in reference to Pogba only here. People moan that they want all sorts of world record deals negotiated and concluded before the window even opens so that players can have the chance to settle with the team. Pogba, whether agreed or not, and it clearly was long agreed anyway - would not have joined up with the team BECAUSE HE WAS ON HOLIDAY. He wasn’t with the Juventus squad either. He was in Los Angeles, as his team got all the way to the final of the Euros. He was still signed before the season began.

As for the others, half of them were signed after pre-season, but were not the sagas you guys love to complain about. Half the posters on here were still googling who Martial was by the time he was on a plane to Manchester, and Di Maria was done in days.

Surprisingly, there is some level of correlation between the most expensive deals in football and the time taken to complete them. How suprising!

 

[prateik]

If Dortmund want 100m upfront, the deal isnt happening.
And I'll be fine with that.

 

[STaphouse]

City and Chelsea both being proactive and decisive early.

Suspect we will sign Sancho ... About a week before the window closes. United love a saga more than a good presesson

Chelsea have signed one player (Werner) which was simple because he had a release clause and are dragging out the Havertz deal. They tried yo get Ziyech in January and took too long on that aswell.

City have signed a CB from a relegated club with money issues which is an easier deal to make.

Some of you seriously need to open your eyes a bit more. Its obvious a transfer worth nearly £100m is going to take a lot longer (see Havertz and Sancho) than deals worth half that and with release clauses.

 

[Tiber]

Chelsea have signed one player (Werner) which was simple because he had a release clause and are dragging out the Havertz deal. They tried yo get Ziyech in January and took too long on that aswell.

City have signed a CB from a relegated club with money issues which is an easier deal to make.

Some of you seriously need to open your eyes a bit more. Its obvious a transfer worth nearly £100m is going to take a lot longer (see Havertz and Sancho) than deals worth half that and with release clauses.

Yes, Chelsea have only signed two quality players so far. City are probably going to go out and have a major overhaul, but as you say, only one significant signing is currently arranged.

My issue with United is not specifically about Sancho, it is very early and sooner or later i'm confident that specific deal will get done. Its about a trend, not a specific instance or the first week of this window. Its clear from this thread that some have no problems at all with the manner in which United handle transfer dealings, fair enough. But our two most recent signings Bruno and Maguire were both dragged out for most of the window (arguably two windows in Bruno's case) and I wont call that ideal.

Signing Maguire was always going to be complicated, I am quite aware that deal is harder than Lee Grant's. But it would have been better for the player, manager and club if he could have had a preseason to work with his teammates instead of being thrown into the lineup at the start of the season. Sometimes that is worth more than haggling over the last few % of a deal over the course of several weeks before inevitably paying what they asked for as the deadline approaches. I mentioned the good article about this earlier, but apparently thats noise rather than a valid point.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I thought he had a release clause lower than that?

Apparently he had. His release clause is £45m = €50m. However, it has an option to increase to an amount close to €75 million. Not much detail how it could increase, I'm guessing it depends on his performance or number of appearances.

the club increases the termination clause, which becomes 50 million euros, and with the option of being able to increase to an amount close to 75 million.

 

[jesperjaap]

Info: Things are moving around Rayan Aït-Nouri . @ManUtd and @ManCity have sent offers to its representative Jorge Mendes. The left side of @AngersSCO has visited the facilities of several clubs this week.

Never heard of him myself. Anybody know him? I did see a game of Nuno Mendes recently and he looks very good

 

[jesperjaap]

It seems like that because fans like yourself can’t keep your shit together.

These are all the players we have signed post-Fergie -

Fellaini
Mata (January)
Shaw
Herrera
Rojo
Blind (no pre-season)
Di Maria (no pre-season)
Falcao (no pre-season)
Romero
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlein
Depay
Darmian
Martial (no pre-season)
Ibrahimovic
Mkhitaryan
Pogba (no pre-season)
Bailly
Lukaku
Matic (no pre-season)
Lindelof
Sanchez (January)
Fred
Dalot
Grant
Wan-Bissaka
James
Maguire (No pre-season)
Fernandes (January)

18 of 29 were signed in time to have a pre-season with us, of the other 11, 3 were January signings, 2 were deadline say deals with no saga at all (Martial and Falcao) and Pogba was on holiday post World Cup, and didn’t do pre-season with Juve either. Di Maria had no pre-season but deal spent no more than a week in the news either.

It’s just that one week of pressing refresh seems like a lifetime to many fans!

Isnt that list just depressing. Only 10 of those players I was happy about us signing and only half of them were players I reallly wanted us to sign. There are 9 I really didnt want us to sign.

Whether its the manager, board, negotiaters or whoever else and there decisions or errors with us signing these players, scanning down that just shows so much of why we have struggled and that isnt with seeign the even more depressing statistic of there fees as I doubt there are five good deals amongst the lot of them

 

[mazhar13]

Just in case someone decides to post the Cavani-to-Bayern rumour here:

 

[mazhar13]

Oliver Baumann extends his stay with Hoffenheim until 2023.

 

[mazhar13]

Inter confirm that they will not pursue Zaniolo.


Translated quote from the original article:

"I really don't think we'll be dealing with Roma."
"A lot of money is needed for him; there are no conditions [that would change this]."

 

[mazhar13]

Simon had the exact same first question as I had:

 

[romufc]

Why do you think you always see the excuse of ‘he’s on holiday’ used? Maybe because the players were on holiday?

I used it in reference to Pogba only here. People moan that they want all sorts of world record deals negotiated and concluded before the window even opens so that players can have the chance to settle with the team. Pogba, whether agreed or not, and it clearly was long agreed anyway - would not have joined up with the team BECAUSE HE WAS ON HOLIDAY. He wasn’t with the Juventus squad either. He was in Los Angeles, as his team got all the way to the final of the Euros. He was still signed before the season began.

As for the others, half of them were signed after pre-season, but were not the sagas you guys love to complain about. Half the posters on here were still googling who Martial was by the time he was on a plane to Manchester, and Di Maria was done in days.

Surprisingly, there is some level of correlation between the most expensive deals in football and the time taken to complete them. How suprising!

We can argue about the first few paragraphs all we like, but IMO deals are done well in advance. I would not be surprised if we spoke to Sancho 6 months ago to get feelers.

Obviously, the bigger the deal the longer it will take. £60m+ is a sizeable investment for clubs to make, you have to get the clauses spot on. They will be trying to get the best deal for their own clubs, which is why it takes so long.

Especially taking a player that a team doesn't really want. I do not expect a Jadon Sancho deal to be done over night, if it is that means someone has messed up.

These deals will be negotiated by two teams, then they will have internal chats on how they feel about it, United being in the stock market, an investment that big will also have to be authorised by higher ups.

Then lawyers will probably get involved to make sure the deal is correct, United will have to show proof of funds etc...

 

[mazhar13]

Sam Lee weighs in on the repercussions of the Ake transfer regarding Koulibaly:


Basically, City can still pursue him.

 

[SuperiorXI]

But why do man city buy players so fast wahhhhhh

It's an illusion. No one is interested in speculation when it comes to small clubs.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[mazhar13]

Cadena SER are reporting that both Bayern Munich and Chelsea have approached Marc-Andre ter Stegen.


Key points:

• Barcelona are currently working to renew Ter Stegen's contract
• An agreement will be difficult as Ter Stegen also has offers from other teams (Chelsea, Bayern Munich)

 

[pacifictheme]

It's an illusion. No one is interested in speculation when it comes to small clubs.

Ha ha.

 

[RU Devil]

Simon had the exact same first question as I had:

Kick in the nuts for Toons.

 

[dev1l]

Sam Lee weighs in on the repercussions of the Ake transfer regarding Koulibaly:


Basically, City can still pursue him.

True but in Laporte and Ake they already have two left footed CB. I think they ll sign another CB for sure but not Koulibaly, rather a right footed one

 

[Jibbs]

A casual 20 million hike in a player's value usually indicates Man United is interested.

 

[E-mal]

Cadena SER are reporting that both Bayern Munich and Chelsea have approached Marc-Andre ter Stegen.


Key points:

• Barcelona are currently working to renew Ter Stegen's contract
• An agreement will be difficult as Ter Stegen also has offers from other teams (Chelsea, Bayern Munich)

We should be in for him, reliable and fits playing out from the back.

 

[Jibbs]

Cadena SER are reporting that both Bayern Munich and Chelsea have approached Marc-Andre ter Stegen.


Key points:

• Barcelona are currently working to renew Ter Stegen's contract
• An agreement will be difficult as Ter Stegen also has offers from other teams (Chelsea, Bayern Munich)

I think this deal woll suit both Barca and Chelsea. Barca can get a young Spanish Keeper and Chelsea can get a reliable Goalie they craved.

 

[NoMidfielders]

No disrespect to Wolves or Paulinho but if they’d received solid info on Jimenez joining United I’m pretty sure that would be the headline

 

[NYAS]

True but in Laporte and Ake they already have two left footed CB. I think they ll sign another CB for sure but not Koulibaly, rather a right footed one

Koulibaly is right-footed.

 

[WelshManc]

Excellent on FM 2020. That's all I know about him

I went to sign him on FIFA 20 but opted for Maouassa instead. Maouassa is a beast.

 

[mazhar13]

Mike Verweij talks to De Telegraaf about the interest in Donny van de Beek and Nicolas Tagliafico:


Translation:

People are pulling hard on Van de Beek and Tagliafico

Note: the link opens up a video

Key quote (from Reddit):

Van De Beek and Tagliafico are are the two Ajax players clubs are most interested in, but no club has really been concrete about either of them.

 

[dev1l]

Koulibaly is right-footed.

You re right. So Koulibaly to City is a certainty imo. They ll have Koulibaly or Otamendi or Gracia as RCB and Laporte or Ake at LCB.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

You re right. So Koulibaly to City is a certainty imo. They ll have Koulibaly or Otamendi or Gracia as RCB and Laporte or Ake at LCB.

To be fair though, Ake played on the right side recently in Bournemouth with Kelly. So won't matter to him whether it's LCB or RCB

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Wonder what Blue Moon are saying? Just heard a caller on Talkshite and he wasn't pleased in the slightest, saying basically they've bought a midget for CB when they could just develop Rodri there.

 

[Rozay]

We can argue about the first few paragraphs all we like, but IMO deals are done well in advance. I would not be surprised if we spoke to Sancho 6 months ago to get feelers.

Obviously, the bigger the deal the longer it will take. £60m+ is a sizeable investment for clubs to make, you have to get the clauses spot on. They will be trying to get the best deal for their own clubs, which is why it takes so long.

Especially taking a player that a team doesn't really want. I do not expect a Jadon Sancho deal to be done over night, if it is that means someone has messed up.

These deals will be negotiated by two teams, then they will have internal chats on how they feel about it, United being in the stock market, an investment that big will also have to be authorised by higher ups.

Then lawyers will probably get involved to make sure the deal is correct, United will have to show proof of funds etc...

This is pretty much what I said. I don’t think we are worse than others in the market.

 

[Cassidy]

You re right. So Koulibaly to City is a certainty imo. They ll have Koulibaly or Otamendi or Gracia as RCB and Laporte or Ake at LCB.

Romano said earlier today City had stopped their pursuit of Koulibally

 

[Cassidy]

I think this deal woll suit both Barca and Chelsea. Barca can get a young Spanish Keeper and Chelsea can get a reliable Goalie they craved.

They wont sell Ter Stegan and right now they are looking at renewing his contract

 

[golden_blunder]

Is it just me or does he look like the spitting image of Ruud Gullit?