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So depressing. But feck it, if any team other than us were to really challenge for the top 2 I'd rather it be Spurs.
If Spurs sign Dybala and we get Mandzukic that will say a lot about where the clubs are at respectively.
It isnt a better squad than last season though.
More likely that he just doesn't want to play for a Europa League club under an unproven manager. Spurs offers CL football, a top class manager and a much more settled team not to mention living in London. No brainer.I cannot believe that Spurs are signing Dybala and we walked away. Makes me wonder if he was asking for the ridiculous fees previously mentioned at all?
We have strengthened defence while weakening midfield and attack. Rebuilding is going perfectly I see. Winning something is obviously not our target, Ed & Co managed to lower our expectations so much that now TOP 4 would be seen as an achievement. And you are OK with that? Then the same people like you dare to call us "the biggest club in the world" More like biggest laughing stock in the word.
So players now preferring Spurs over us?
What the hell? Can't imagine they are paying for more than us either.
Deadline day is gonna be fun! Don't think we'll sign anyone, but gonna be fun!
Cause at least half of our fans like you have still buried their heads in sand.Why don't you organise a protest then?
You are entitled
We’ve made 3 signings this season, we all knew the club weren’t gonna be rebuilt in 1 window, it’s impossible.
I want players who want to play for the club and not a wage packet. If that means waiting for another couple windows then so be it.
The doom and gloom here is astounding. Just because we didnt sign 4,5,6 players we’re immediately crap.
This thread sums up the fans here perfectly
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/let’s-face-it-united-are-a-has-been-club.449540/
2 days prior he made a thread about how great we are and how amazing we’re looking to become:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/can...rebuild-new-core-is-nearing-completion.449419/
Yet because the signings weren’t made, gone from incredibly positive to incredibly negative.
The club simply cannot win
More likely that he just doesn't want to play for a Europa League club under an unproven manager. Spurs offers CL football, a top class manager and a much more settled team not to mention living in London. No brainer.
I don't even know what to reply to that one. It's your opinion I guess...In your OPINION! Personally I think losing Fellaini and Lukaku improves our midfield and attack.
I think we'll have another shite season and lose both next summer, then have to replace them with no CL and even less commercial revenue.
Let's face it, for all the talk of youth, class of 92 etc, when teams like Wolves and Everton are spending big you HAVE TO invest big to take a forward step. I can see us getting left behind whilst peddling this philosophical nonsense about fighting for the badge.
More likely that he just doesn't want to play for a Europa League club under an unproven manager. Spurs offers CL football, a top class manager and a much more settled team not to mention living in London. No brainer.
It is going to very interesting. Wouldn't have liked it to get this far without signing the necessary players but Woody please pull off some magic last day!Deadline day is gonna be fun! Don't think we'll sign anyone, but gonna be fun!
It's all hope though isn't it. This player might step up, that player might step up. It's the hope that kills you. How is Sanchez going to be good? He hasn't even had a pre-season so we won't be seeing him for a while.I disagree, there is now a back 5 that is much higher quality, the young players are a year older so the expectation is they will step up. I would also hope for a better season from Fred as he is now settled, perhaps Ole has seen enough of him to say we don't need another midfielder. Sanchez will be now or never, he's not 34, there's still a chance there. The players are fitter. I would expect this to be a better squad, despite the personnel changes.
The only place I really couldn't argue it is in the loss of Lukaku and no-one to replace him.
It's all hope though isn't it. This player might step up, that player might step up. It's the hope that kills you. How is Sanchez going to be good? He hasn't even had a pre-season so we won't be seeing him for a while.
So players now preferring Spurs over us?
What the hell? Can't imagine they are paying for more than us either.
Thing is, we agreed a fee for Dybala. It was the player himself who made it difficult by demanding extortionate wages.
Are Spurs going to break their precious wage structure for him or is he going to lower his demands?
Cant understand how this going to work when he wanted to be one of our top earners yet Spurs wage structure is £200,000 per weekI cannot believe that Spurs are signing Dybala and we walked away. Makes me wonder if he was asking for the ridiculous fees previously mentioned at all?
How do you prepare for not signing any more players?
Yeah I nearly strained something while reaching with that one.
Cant understand how this going to work when he wanted to be one of our top earners yet Spurs wage structure is £200,000 per week
I don't even know what to reply to that one. It's your opinion I guess...
Why didnt we cough up for him? It's an absolute shambles that a player of his quality is going there considering their wage structure and how frugal they usually are in the market, and the quality they already have.If Spurs sign Dybala and we get Mandzukic that will say a lot about where the clubs are at respectively.
That's where we are isn't it. What have they done to us?Reduced his demands. He wants to join Spurs, he didn't want to join us.
Bold Prediction: Coutinho panic stopgap loan to give us a fighting chance this season unless the kids deliver.
Finished above us in the league, CL finalists, have a well-regarded manager, based in London. Think a lot of United fans are finding it difficult to accept there’s very little appeal to joining us except for money.
I thought it was image rights in the end, which are owned by a third party company.
Regarding Dybala rejecting Manchester United: Dybala didn't reject Manchester United, Dybala rejected Premier League.
But most importantly, the Dybala transfer is a massively complicated mess that the club pulled out of with GOOD reason.
In short: Dybala does not own his own image rights, his agency does. And they want a pretty penny for them. To make matters way more complicated, Dybala is in a legal dispute with his former agency, Star Image who also claim ownership to the players image rights thanks to a 10 year breached contract that is currently making its way in the courts. The fact that outside agencies control his rights makes any transfer both very expensive and complicated since the costs are yet unknown to to the legal dispute. This is a HUGE issue with no good way to solve it.
The clubs 25% wage reduction for lack of CL qualification was also a step too big to bridge.
Plus 'La Joya' has been vocal about his wish to remain with Juventus.
AND the 16 MILLION Euro Agent fee which is nothing short of an outright extortion.
We should all be thankful that this deal never went through, it might have turned out worse than the Sanchez deal.
I would rather that as well but I don't see how losing someone who scores 1/4 of our goals without any replacement improves our team.I’d rather players with a first touch who want to play football on the ground. No more direct Mourinho football.