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Stone’s evaluation was iffy. I don't know how he decided Lukaku couldn’t play up front with another striker. He is right on Scott, but Young is finished. There is no way anyone is desperate to keep him apart from Stone.

Bailly is not good. He doesn’t seem to understand that Bailly was pushed out the side because he was simply playing badly. Him repeating things said in those briefings like Maguire is not better than what we have is rubbish.

He talks about the team needing structure but there is no understanding of nuance when discussing what Jose wanted and how that fit into his vision of a team structure. In fact no one really talks about it. It only ever is about transfer value and the age of players.

He is right about de Gea’s distribution I guess.
 
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haram said:
Stone’s evaluation was iffy. I don't know how he decided Lukaku couldn’t play up front with another striker. He is right on Scott, but Young is finished. There is no way anyone is desperate to keep him apart from Stone.

Bailly is not good. He doesn’t seem to understand that Bailly was pushed out the side because he was simply playing badly. Him repeating things said in those briefings like Maguire is not better than what we have is rubbish.

He talks about the team needing structure but there is no understanding of nuance when discussing what Jose wanted and how that fit into his vision of a team structure. In fact no one really talks about it. It only ever is about transfer value and the age of players.

He is right about de Gea’s distribution I guess.
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Simon Stone was spot on with everything in that video, including everything on Jose.
 
roonster09 said:
Simon Stone was spot on with everything in that video, including everything on Jose.
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Ok well Jose aside, how can you come to the conclusion that Lukaku cannot play with another forward? In fact the split strikers worked well under Ole. How is he right about desperately wanting Young to stay?

Maguire is better than what we have but that’s my opinion. Especially better than Bailly.

FootyGirl88 said:
Unless we sell Dalot
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I doubt we would sell such a talent after one season.
 
haram said:
Ok well Jose aside, how can you come to the conclusion that Lukaku cannot play with another forward? In fact the split strikers worked well under Ole. How is he right about desperately wanting Young to stay?
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He didn't say he wants Young to stay, he said after watching Huddersfield game him and McTominay were the only players who gave everything, in that context he said only 2 should be retained. He explained what he meant and context is everything.

Lukaku point was about playing with attacking mid and 2 strikers in a diamond formation IIRC, where you need 2 dynamic forwards stretching play, running channels and pressing from front. He also said combination of Pogba + Lukaku + Sanchez doesn't work and it's hard to get them play at their best in any system. Going by what happened in last 1.5 years he wasn't wrong.
 
Feck me, there really isn't anything going on in the transfer market is there? Given by people arguing over Simon frickin Stone
 
Cassidy said:
Maguire/DeLigt (more likely Maguire), Munier, No Idea, No Idea
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Yes, it's me! I'm working on my fitness right now, soon will be able to run more than 3,5 minutes, don't worry about my football, much better than some we saw last season. United is preparing a bid as we speak.
 
The speculation is more waffly than ever, and not even just exclusive to us.

The only obvious thing I can gauge is that clubs are clearly briefing the press, to try and generate stupid excessive fees for players who probably do want to move on, but without concrete interest.
 
roonster09 said:
He didn't say he wants Young to stay, he said after watching Huddersfield game him and McTominay were the only players who gave everything, in that context he said only 2 should be retained. He explained what he meant and context is everything.

Lukaku point was about playing with attacking mid and 2 strikers in a diamond formation IIRC, where you need 2 dynamic forwards stretching play, running channels and pressing from front. He also said combination of Pogba + Lukaku + Sanchez doesn't work and it's hard to get them play at their best in any system. Going by what happened in last 1.5 years he wasn't wrong.
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He said watching the Huddersfield game the only two players you would be desperate to keep is Young and Scott based off hard work. He is wrong.

Lukaku would prefer to be running in behind on the shoulder of defenders and he can work the channel. He did that playing as one of the split strikers so he’s wrong. Lukaku and Pogba can work, Alexis is the problem one there.
 
No Idea For Nickname said:
Yes, it's me! I'm working on my fitness right now, soon will be able to run more than 3,5 minutes, don't worry about my football, much better than some we saw last season. United is preparing a bid as we speak.
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:lol::lol:
 
Stone seemed to suggest we did enough in the last window. Which in and itself was a sign he was toeing the official club line. Not only did we not sign enough, we should have gotten rid of the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Mata, Young, Valencia at the least. He seemed to shit on Mourinho, which was well enough he had acted extremely immature but he wasnt wrong about what was happening at the club. Neither was LVG.

One thing that stuck with me was what Stone said about Klopp. He said he wanted Klopp after Ferguson left and after Moyes left. But he was told United couldn't get him. It was a clear sign then where the club was headed that we couldn't attract the manager of Dortmund.
 
haram said:
He said watching the Huddersfield game the only two players you would be desperate to keep is Young and Scott based off hard work. He is wrong.

Lukaku would prefer to be running in behind on the shoulder of defenders and he can work the channel. He did that playing as one of the split strikers so he’s wrong. Lukaku and Pogba can work, Alexis is the problem one there.
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He isnt not wrong, obviously he is wrong if you understood in the way you posted.

Re Lukaku, he said if Manutd play 3 at the back then Lukaku won't be good enough to play as he lacks hold up play which is spot on. Lukaku lacks hold up play no matter how you spin it. That was the part when they were talking about modern way of playing, fitting Pogba into the team.
 
Kaivalya said:
Stone seemed to suggest we did enough in the last window. Which in and itself was a sign he was toeing the official club line. Not only did we not sign enough, we should have gotten rid of the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Mata, Young, Valencia at the least. He seemed to shit on Mourinho, which was well enough he had acted extremely immature but he wasnt wrong about what was happening at the club. Neither was LVG.

One thing that stuck with me was what Stone said about Klopp. He said he wanted Klopp after Ferguson left and after Moyes left. But he was told United couldn't get him. It was a clear sign then where the club was headed that we couldn't attract the manager of Dortmund.
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Well he also said he felt sorry for Woodward which I found interesting.

roonster09 said:
He isnt not wrong, obviously he is wrong if you understood in the way you posted.

Re Lukaku, he said if Manutd play 3 at the back then Lukaku won't be good enough to play as he lacks hold up play which is spot on. Lukaku lacks hold up play no matter how you spin it. That was the part when they were talking about modern way of playing, fitting Pogba into the team.
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Anyone saying Lukaku cannot play as a striker in a 352 is wrong. Im not gonna argue over that.
 
Kaivalya said:
Stone seemed to suggest we did enough in the last window. Which in and itself was a sign he was toeing the official club line. Not only did we not sign enough, we should have gotten rid of the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Mata, Young, Valencia at the least. He seemed to shit on Mourinho, which was well enough he had acted extremely immature but he wasnt wrong about what was happening at the club. Neither was LVG.

One thing that stuck with me was what Stone said about Klopp. He said he wanted Klopp after Ferguson left and after Moyes left. But he was told United couldn't get him. It was a clear sign then where the club was headed that we couldn't attract the manager of Dortmund.
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Simon Stone didn't say Jose was wrong. Both him and Howson said Jose was correct in what he said but he didn't do much to rectify it was the point they raised.
 
Kaivalya said:
Stone seemed to suggest we did enough in the last window. Which in and itself was a sign he was toeing the official club line. Not only did we not sign enough, we should have gotten rid of the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Mata, Young, Valencia at the least. He seemed to shit on Mourinho, which was well enough he had acted extremely immature but he wasnt wrong about what was happening at the club. Neither was LVG.

One thing that stuck with me was what Stone said about Klopp. He said he wanted Klopp after Ferguson left and after Moyes left. But he was told United couldn't get him. It was a clear sign then where the club was headed that we couldn't attract the manager of Dortmund.
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No he suggested it was wise not to sign Mina, Boateng or go for a development CB. Specifically on CB he is right the names mentioned were not right, however we should have been looking at others. On the rest of the squad he didn't say we did enough, his point was have we even identified how we want to play and what players fit that.
 
Another obvious thing is either Stone has absolutely no other sources in the club to tell him when the club actually conduct business (other than the briefing he gets when we actually complete signings) or we are truly not doing anything.
 
Cassidy said:
No he suggested it was wise not to sign Mina, Boateng or go for a development CB. Specifically on CB he is right the names mentioned were not right, however we should have been looking at others. On the rest of the squad he didn't say we did enough, his point was have we even identified how we want to play and what players fit that.
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Yeah, the whole interview was about how we lack system to play the game and we should fix that first, it wasn't about any transfers or on Jose. It's about the players we signed and why we are struggling to get best out of them.
 
Richjc said:
I’d assume you aren’t too interested in the CL and the money and attraction it brings to players who we might want to sign as part of that rebuild then? Because if we can that lot on top of everything else we’ve got a bottom five midfield and a deeply unbalanced squad, even with 3/4 in. If Pogba leaves we need three midfielders for starters, and even if we got them there’s no way they gel quickly. We may as well write off CL for 3/4 years minimum. These ideas of a mass cull are all well and good but if you watch the academy kids regularly you’d see that guys like Garner, Laird, Gomes etc aren’t ready for first team football yet. Greenwood and Chong are in the cusp, but we couldn’t rely on them.
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Its the lesser of two evils in my eyes.

1: Stick with the proven dross here
2: make a change

A re-build takes time, we need a new strategy.

We wont hit the CL playing Jones/Young and the current lot anyway. Time to wake up and be bold and ruthless, its the only way we will get better over time
 
Cassidy said:
No he suggested it was wise not to sign Mina, Boateng or go for a development CB. Specifically on CB he is right the names mentioned were not right, however we should have been looking at others. On the rest of the squad he didn't say we did enough, his point was have we even identified how we want to play and what players fit that.
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Well it was never that simple. Was it the correct decision to sell Blind and not sign a CB to replace him? Was it correct to hang on to Darmian and Rojo rather than selling them to fund a new CB? In terms of recruitment as a whole there is a problem yet he only talks about signing a CB who he agrees we needed to sign. So in terms of facilitating that who’s job is it? The managers or the boards?

This is the twitter thread anyway, I’ll stop.
 
Cassidy said:
No he suggested it was wise not to sign Mina, Boateng or go for a development CB. Specifically on CB he is right the names mentioned were not right, however we should have been looking at others. On the rest of the squad he didn't say we did enough, his point was have we even identified how we want to play and what players fit that.
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The situation in the market last year is the same as this year. Yet we are bound to sign someone this time. Last window Romagnoli, Gimenez extended their contracts to 2023. Imagine has we moved for them early and plucked one of them. Gimenez after his WC campaign?

It's not like we can't move early. City signed Laporte in the same fricking window.
 
There are always more options in the market than the ones we end up pursuing. The fact that he mentioned Varane and then Boateng is a little sad.
 
Kaivalya said:
The situation in the market last year is the same as this year. Yet we are bound to sign someone this time. Last window Romagnoli, Gimenez extended their contracts to 2023. Imagine has we moved for them early and plucked one of them. Gimenez after his WC campaign?

It's not like we can't move early. City signed Laporte in the same fricking window.
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I wish Howson pressed him a little about other targets like Lucas, De Ligt, Pavard, Milenkovic, Godin, Skriniar. Surely we could attract some of them. Why was it left till the last day where we could only pursue Boateng and Mina?
 
Kaivalya said:
The situation in the market last year is the same as this year. Yet we are bound to sign someone this time. Last window Romagnoli, Gimenez extended their contracts to 2023. Imagine has we moved for them early and plucked one of them. Gimenez after his WC campaign?

It's not like we can't move early. City signed Laporte in the same fricking window.
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This guy imparticular is not going to leave Milan, however in my post I did say we should have looked at others. I was simply explaining what Simon said which is truth.
 
Hope United get Werner then... We either give Leipzig 60m now or he joins Bayern for free in 12 months.
 
So that's Hazard, Mendy & Jovic...
3 players we could also have used.

Can't wait for a first signing to get some positive news. That or shifting out deadwood like alexis, darmian, bailly, jones,...
 
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