Come on lads, you're better than to believe a leak to skysports. It's obviously a negotiating tactic, timed just after Dortmund themselves said they have no reason to sell Sancho for a good price. The fact we are leaking the media on a budget for a certain player shows that we are categorically going for him as a target. This only ends one way, it's just a matter of whether it will be stretched (like Maguire) or if we can just snap him up quicker.
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Come on lads, you're better than to believe a leak to skysports. It's obviously a negotiating tactic, timed just after Dortmund themselves said they have no reason to sell Sancho for a good price. The fact we are leaking the media on a budget for a certain player shows that we are categorically going for him as a target. This only ends one way, it's just a matter of whether it will be stretched (like Maguire) or if we can just snap him up quicker.
Absolutely certain this is just the start of that same media cycle timeline we saw with Wan Bissaka & Maguire last summer and Bruno in January. Quite clear there is nothing to see here on this one
Early days. Classic Woodward hardball tactics.
It means very little really. Sky know nothing as you said yourself.
So let me get this straight... Woodward has been criticised in the past for saying that we have money to spend.. Now, in the midst of a global pandemic, we're being criticised for saying that money is tight..?
In Sancho, there is a player who wants to leave. We want to buy. We have the money, but we're playing a game.
Of course we'll pay more than 50m for him, this is just a negotiation tactic to lower the price
In Sancho, there is a player who wants to leave. We want to buy. We have the money, but we're playing a game.
Of course we'll pay more than 50m for him, this is just a negotiation tactic to lower the price
The thing is if it is a negotiating tactic and as others have said, something we do often, we are pretty bad at it. We always end up paying the full whack. We even paid the entire Maguire money up front.
The only way this makes sense is if we think Dortmund are desperate.
Well, paying full price is better than paying more than the release clause, so it’s a progress, I guess
Who criticized him for saying that we have money to spend?
Loads of people on here for starters and rightfully so. Boasting about having most money will only make you pay even more of a premium. Club is taking the correct stance about Sancho.
And so it begins Dortmund - we wont except anything lower than 100M
United - we arent paying over 50M and this will go back and forth for weeks . I see people comparing it with Bruno , we also did it with AWB and Maguire . Strap in lads it's going to be a rollercoaster of BS till its sorted out .
United - we arent paying over 50M and this will go back and forth for weeks . I see people comparing it with Bruno , we also did it with AWB and Maguire . Strap in lads it's going to be a rollercoaster of BS till its sorted out .
And the "who will flinch first" game begins! Looks like negotiations have started. Exciting
Looks a great move for both player and club.
Imagine this quote today was "We'll gladly pay £100m for Sancho". Dortmund would be saying "we've re-evaluated his worth, nothing less than £200m!" next week.Sure, but I think Maguire + Leicester was a different case. Dortmund have a player with a year left on his contract and the club have been hit with a £45m loss. They will need to be flexible I reckon.
Everyone’s gone mad over an unsourced sky sports article.
Classic case of brinkmanship. That 50m figure for Sancho will go up and Utd will eventually agree a fee of around 80m plus add ons rising to 100m after weeks of negotiations.
It's standard negotiation if it's true anyway. We'll meet in the middle.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....l/man-utd-harry-maguire-transfer-16669260.amp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....y-maguire-leicester-city-transfer-3160512.amp
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...brendan-rodgers-provides-latest-harry-3160344
These were just a few articles showing that the clubs where we supposedly met the valuation isn’t true and it started over what we ended up paying.
People also conveniently forget City offered 70 million for Maguire.
I get the clubs recruitment has been poor at times and it seems to drag on forever but there seems to be selective memory on some things to suit agendas.
I'd actually say it's got a lot better after the last few years and the unwillingness to overpay is what die for Mourinho.
Are you a carpenter? Because you just hit the nail on the head.
In this market where nobody knows if football will be even played in October let alone with crowds 50m is closer to his valuation than the 120m Dortmund say they want. I’m not entirely sure people are grasping the financial reality here. Dortmund just made a 45m loss, if there’s a second wave they may make an even bigger loss next year and they have an asset who wants to leave, who was benched at the end of the season and who will be worth half as much next year in potentially an even worse market for selling clubs. If I was in their position then anything around 70m would be seriously tempting.
Exactly. Back and forth for weeks with multiple meltdowns predicted
We havent even considered preparing a bid yet, why the panic?
Exactly, I think this is really what was alluded to about United being able to exploit the market this summer, not by spending record sums but being in a position to spend money at all which may well be unachievable for many clubs. Being in a stable financial position and being able to offer 50 mil in this climate will be hard to turn down for some clubs. No its not what his rate was last year but potentially a 50 mil sale will mean more to a football club in a year of uncertainty than what last year's going rate might have been.
Not to say we're alone in this equation by any means (Chelsea have been quickest out of the blocks it seems) but I think its prudent to play hardball and get the best deal. Its ludicrous to think the same fees will apply and clubs should just pay the previous going rate.
In all likelihood this is what will happen only it will take months not weeks of negotiations.
We all know how this ends...we will pay 100M on the last day of the transfer market.
With Maguire and Bruno it was exactly the same, Woodward is the worst bluffer in the business.
But what money? They made less than 10M on the swap...I mean if you saw it as an individual buy and not as a swap would you pay 60M for a 30 year old Pjanic?
A pretty bad deal no matter how you look at it.
This could be the start of a very long drawn out saga that will not be over in time for pre season or even the start of the season, if at all.
I don't know. It seems we are trying to get this done early. Don't these reports come out when the window is open. The season hasn't even finished and we are seeing reports already
apart from we got a really good deal with Bruno...
Yeah both are arguably our best players this season, I don't really see why people are bothered how much we pay and when.
2 years left on his contract which expires on 30/06/22
I think so because landing Sancho might hinge on being able to offload Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Smalling and Dalot. And that's not gonna happen in 1 week.
because people like to moan and there is a popularity in slating Woodward
I'd hate for him to end up at Chelski.
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