Transfer Tweets - 2018/19 | Remember if posting foreign language tweets to post in English too

[Lash]

He's still the most clinical forward we have. Rashford/Martial are too inconsistent to rely on them. Absolutely baffles me that people don't see this.

Low fecking bar. We’re absolutely abysmal at finishing or creating chances at the moment. If we replaced him with someone, I’d expect the goals from them. The idea that we could easily replace him is the stupid part. He’s no where near good enough if we want to win the league, so we should want to replace him.

 

[Lash]

His hold up play since Ole came has been very good. In the big European games he's proven to be a great outlet and the only dependable player forward not losing the ball. You just knew we would have zero going forward when Ole took him off for Martial in the Barcelona match.

He's a lot better than Rashford in terms of the whole package. He's terribly underrated on this forum because he has the occasional bad first touch, but the truth is he's lethal in the box, has a physical presence that every team needs a good option of, is open to working in different areas to help the team and under a good manager is capable of sustained 20-25 goal a season form.

There are a lot of other attackers I'd sell before thinking of selling Lukaku. You can't even replace him with a striker as justified in overall goals as he is. Giving him a pass under half this season from Mourinho (like we have done with everyone else), I cannot think of many other players who we can buy that suddenly carry the goal burden like he can, if trusted to lead the line consistently.

Anyway everyone's open to their views but I just find it weird that people want to see us trying to flog him.

His hold up play has been what is expected of him recently. It’s not been amazing, he still regularly fails to protect the ball properly. I’m not saying he’s bad at everything, he obviously has some great strengths, he’s just by no means someone we should be building a new team around. We should have a no 9 that’s one of the best in the league, or at least in the argument.

 

[Bubz27]

The difference between Lukaku and the best strikers in the league is massively evident. Watch Aguero or Kane then Lukaku and you can see why people want to upgrade him.

Who you get and whose available, those are the key questions. Not whether we should look to upgrade.

 

[Cassidy]

If we sell Lukaku we really are fecking stupid.

He was on the bench vs Barca. I think were probably going to sell him. I’ll wait to see who we bring in before I call it stupid because his limits are obvious

 

[VP89]

He was on the bench vs Barca. I think were probably going to sell him. I’ll wait to see who we bring in before I call it stupid because his limits are obvious

Which was the wrong move. Selling him with no clear alternative is also a wrong move.

 

[BBRBB]

That's not what the guardian article says though. It says those clubs have been 'sounded out' regarding his availability, which basically means his agent is out there shopping him around.

Exactly. That's why aggregator accounts such as these are banned from the thread and shouldn't be relayed.

 

[Cassidy]

Which was the wrong move. Selling him with no clear alternative is also a wrong move.

Like I said, I will wait to see who we bring in. Maybe there are alternatives.

In fairness he was the wrong signing in the first place anyway

 

[haram]

He was on the bench vs Barca. I think were probably going to sell him. I’ll wait to see who we bring in before I call it stupid because his limits are obvious

Yeah and it was a mistake. Even when he was subbed in the West Ham game he should have stayed on. The limits of the team in general outweigh the limits of Rom. Everyone admits we have problems in build up, width and delivery yet Lukaku is deemed the problem?

We are not going to sign a striker on Aguero’s level so I dont get why people keep bringing him up either.

 

[VP89]

Like I said, I will wait to see who we bring in. Maybe there are alternatives.

In fairness he was the wrong signing in the first place anyway

Feel free to wait. Given the farce of our transfers, (lack of) structure of our transfer dealings and general ability to misjudge our players I believe many of us are within our right to predict it's a silly move.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Not sure why this is still a debate. Lukaku might not be the biggest problem but he is not the solution and every season he's around we are one step away from finding that solution. Look around at the teams regularly challenging and winning trophies and see who they have as strikers. Barcelona have had Messi, Neymar and suarez, real have had Ronaldo, atletico have had griezmann and Costa, City with Aguero and the united of old had Rooney, van Persie and Ronaldo. Lukaku is simply not in that caliber at the most important position in attack.

I'm not even sure he's better than vardy from the season Leicester won the league.

 

[VP89]

Yeah and it was a mistake. Even when he was subbed in the West Ham game he should have stayed on. The limits of the team in general outweigh the limits of Rom. Everyone admits we have problems in build up, width and delivery yet Lukaku is deemed the problem?

We are not going to sign a striker on Aguero’s level so I dont get why people keep bringing him up either.

Even if we bought an Aguero type player he's not suddenly going to score Augero frequency if you surround him by overrated kids.

 

[haram]

Not sure why this is still a debate. Lukaku might not be the biggest problem but he is not the solution and every season he's around we are one step away from finding that solution. Look around at the teams regularly challenging and winning trophies and see who they have as strikers. Barcelona have had Messi, Neymar and suarez, real have had Ronaldo, atletico have had griezmann and Costa, City with Aguero and the united of old had Rooney, van Persie and Ronaldo. Lukaku is simply not in that caliber at the most important position in attack.

I'm not even sure he's better than vardy from the season Leicester won the league.

How about look at the players they have in defence and midfield.

 

[giorno]

His hold up play has been what is expected of him recently. It’s not been amazing, he still regularly fails to protect the ball properly. I’m not saying he’s bad at everything, he obviously has some great strengths, he’s just by no means someone we should be building a new team around. We should have a no 9 that’s one of the best in the league, or at least in the argument.

I don't get this argument. Looks clear to me Ole's CF is Rashford. You're not going to sign a new one. Having Lukaku as a backup would be an incredible luxury. The kind teams that aim to win big trophies generally need

 

[Rozay]

It can never be considered ‘really fecking stupid’ for Manchester United to sell Lukaku. It is only that if we sell such a player and don’t replace him. The same people saying this are happy for us to sell the likes of Pogba and Martial but it’s stupid to sell a striker like Lukaku who is not top level.

He’s a 75m striker at 25 years old who only earns 200k a week yet the ongoing debate is finding a team who would be willing to pay his fee and salary. That tells a story in itself. It would be stupid to sell him if he were a player we could easily get 75m back for and could easily command 250k on the market. He isn’t, which means something’s clearly wrong.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

How about look at the players they have in defence and midfield.

Not sure why that matters, the midfield and defense need to improved for sure but that won't automatically upgrade the quality of Lukaku.

 

[VP89]

It can never be considered ‘really fecking stupid’ for Manchester United to sell Lukaku. It is only that if we sell such a player and don’t replace him. The same people saying this are happy for us to sell the likes of Pogba and Martial but it’s stupid to sell a striker like Lukaku who is not top level.

He’s a 75m striker at 25 years old who only earns 200k a week yet the ongoing debate is finding a team who would be willing to pay his fee and salary. That tells a story in itself. It would be stupid to sell him if he were a player we could easily get 75m back for and could easily command 250k on the market. He isn’t, which means something’s clearly wrong.

You have to replace him with a player just as established. This is a club that clearly has no plan and just work things out as they go along - there is no guaruntee or trust that they will actually manage to replace him.

Also to your bold point, you surely don't think Martial is suddenly top level, do you?

 

[VP89]

Not sure why that matters, the midfield and defense need to improved for sure but that won't automatically upgrade the quality of Lukaku.

Of course his output for us can improve - and when looking at the "quality of Lukaku", there are 3 other attackers with shitter output than his than need looking at before we turn to him.

 

[haram]

It can never be considered ‘really fecking stupid’ for Manchester United to sell Lukaku. It is only that if we sell such a player and don’t replace him. The same people saying this are happy for us to sell the likes of Pogba and Martial but it’s stupid to sell a striker like Lukaku who is not top level.

He’s a 75m striker at 25 years old who only earns 200k a week yet the ongoing debate is finding a team who would be willing to pay his fee and salary. That tells a story in itself. It would be stupid to sell him if he were a player we could easily get 75m back for and could easily command 250k on the market. He isn’t, which means something’s clearly wrong.

I never said we should sell Martial but he is less proven than Lukaku and on just as much money. So tell me why Lukaku should be sold and not Martial?

Fix the damn problems behind the forwards first and then we can talk about who is and who isn’t good enough at the top of our team. The problems are in build up, transition and creating chances in the final third. Lukaku has proven he can find the back of the net. He is not the problem.

 

[Litch]

If we sell Lukaku we really are fecking stupid.

Nope, people want to sell a player that scores goals in prem to play the lottery with players from lesser leagues. Also we've seen in the league with the exception of Salah, it's a graveyard for strikers in more recent times. The ones that generally do well are the ones who have played most of their careers in the prem. People need to be careful what they wish for.....

 

[haram]

Not sure why that matters, the midfield and defense need to improved for sure but that won't automatically upgrade the quality of Lukaku.

You will get more out of Lukaku if we fix the way we build play and create chances. We dont even have a single reliable crosser of the ball that isn’t Lukaku himself. fecking farcial for Manchester United.

 

[Sandikan]

He was on the bench vs Barca. I think were probably going to sell him. I’ll wait to see who we bring in before I call it stupid because his limits are obvious

Just from the Barcelona benching?

In a game we were clearly going to have minimal ball percentage we needed the higher workrate players, that's all.
Rashford outworks Lukaku. I wouldn't take it as á sign we're trying to shift him.

We have enough work on players to bring in without shipping more out.

 

[Cassidy]

Even if we bought an Aguero type player he's not suddenly going to score Augero frequency if you surround him by overrated kids.

Hed score more than an overrated striker

 

[Bojan11]

Can we stop going on about Lukaku now. Need to have more tweets in this thread and less discussion. Maybe two or three responses to a tweet and if it’s a big tweet then a thread about it.

There’s about 100 Lukaku threads where you can debate if he stays or goes.

 

[Canagel]

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Not sure why this is still a debate. Lukaku might not be the biggest problem but he is not the solution and every season he's around we are one step away from finding that solution. Look around at the teams regularly challenging and winning trophies and see who they have as strikers. Barcelona have had Messi, Neymar and suarez, real have had Ronaldo, atletico have had griezmann and Costa, City with Aguero and the united of old had Rooney, van Persie and Ronaldo. Lukaku is simply not in that caliber at the most important position in attack.

I'm not even sure he's better than vardy from the season Leicester won the league.

Vardy has more goals vs top 6 than Lukaku. I think jimenez this year only had more vs top 6 than lukaku did in the last 4 years. And they didn't play for top 6 team yet. Lukaku is very good at stat padding vs minows at the international level and adding the gloss to sealed wins but he's rarely the type to score in the big game vs big oppositions or break the deadlock.

 

[VP89]

Hed score more than an overrated striker

Lukaku is far from overrated.

 

[Lash]

I don't get this argument. Looks clear to me Ole's CF is Rashford. You're not going to sign a new one. Having Lukaku as a backup would be an incredible luxury. The kind teams that aim to win big trophies generally need

OK, not a clear CF then. It’s quite obvious Ole wants a more flexible attacker than Lukaku. He’s not going to be a back up, he wants to play regularly - ie be our main striker, which we shouldn’t be entertaining.

 

[ErranMorad]

I won't have any qualms about selling Lukaku. He is not a top level striker. Doesn't have a whole lot in his game to succeed at a top club. His intermittent goal sprees against shitty opposition doesn't compensate for his lack of deft touch, movement & hold-up. (Yeah, yeah he scored two gifted goals against PSG. Boo fecking hoo!)

Easily dispensable player. There are two ways we can replace him. We can either get a better striker or we can try Rashford or Martial up top and get a decent left winger. I hope we sell him.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

You will get more out of Lukaku if we fix the way we build play and create chances. We dont even have a single reliable crosser of the ball that isn’t Lukaku himself. fecking farcial for Manchester United.

A bit of it is also on him, a better forward would holdup play and bring the midfielders into the game, he completely lacks that aspect of a striker. His intelligence to make runs to openup passing angles has long been questioned and you only need to look at the difference Rashford as a center forward makes to see evidence of it. It's no coincidence ole prefers Rashford almost every chance he gets.

The right side of attack has long been crap but he has squandered chances like the one at wolves when dalot put a cross on his head to score.

Overall he is a fine option for a midtable team, a physical striker that can occupy center backs on a good day but his limitations are shown up when he has to play in a more sophisticated attacking unit.

 

[breakout67]

Selling Lukaku and pinning our hopes on Rashy and Marshal will be a disaster. Selling him and buying a top class striker or top class striker in the making would be fantastic. Jovic and Piatek would be great.

I don't get this argument. Looks clear to me Ole's CF is Rashford. You're not going to sign a new one. Having Lukaku as a backup would be an incredible luxury. The kind teams that aim to win big trophies generally need

Unfortunately for us this looks to be the case. Under Ole Rashford has played 1509 minutes as CF and scored 9 goals. He'll just about break 20 goals at this rate over a season, we're gonna need some world beaters around him to make up for that, and one of them is not gonna be Martial.

 

[haram]

A bit of it is also on him, a better forward would holdup play and bring the midfielders into the game, he completely lacks that aspect of a striker. His intelligence to make runs to openup passing angles has long been questioned and you only need to look at the difference Rashford as a center forward makes to see evidence of it. It's no coincidence ole prefers Rashford almost every chance he gets.

The right side of attack has long been crap but he has squandered chances like the one at wolves when dalot put a cross on his head to score.

Overall he is a fine option for a midtable team, a physical striker that can occupy center backs on a good day but his limitations are shown up when he has to play in a more sophisticated attacking unit.

So we are just going to pretend like Rashford hasn’t been poor for a while now and that he is generally a better striker than Lukaku? Relying on Rashford and Martial as our strikers for a whole season would be suicide. We have been shit with Rashford up top as well. The problem is behind the forwards.

 

[VP89]

A bit of it is also on him, a better forward would holdup play and bring the midfielders into the game, he completely lacks that aspect of a striker. His intelligence to make runs to openup passing angles has long been questioned and you only need to look at the difference Rashford as a center forward makes to see evidence of it. It's no coincidence ole prefers Rashford almost every chance he gets.

The right side of attack has long been crap but he has squandered chances like the one at wolves when dalot put a cross on his head to score.

Overall he is a fine option for a midtable team, a physical striker that can occupy center backs on a good day but his limitations are shown up when he has to play in a more sophisticated attacking unit.

Rashford is not a better striker than Lukaku. He's a kick and rush footballer. Your claim that Lukaku completely lacks hold-up play is just bizzare. Sure he has a bad touch every now and again but christ is he better than Rashford or Martial.

This caf overrates a few quick kids and are happy to ignore all the times they bundle over the ball or lose it carelessly to an opponent. But when Lukaku has a bad touch they go wild. Funnily enough Lukaku was scoring for fun with relegation sides in the Premier League at Rashford/Martial's age. He's got it in him. The OT Barcelona match was a great example of how good his hold up play can be, and how shit our attack suddenly becomes when Martial comes on instead and shares the front line with Rashford.

 

[Adisa]

Mods need to clean this up. No tweets in almost three fecking pages.

 

[reddevil702]

I don’t mind selling Lukaku but when you look at our squad there are other positions that need upgrading first - RB, RW, CM, CB - we can’t afford to weaken other positions. Inter may make the most sense in a swap with Icardi. Although is he even an upgrade on Lukaku?

 

[pacifictheme]

Shame his last two performances in it were absolute dogshit then really.

 

[Bojan11]

@Damien can you clean this shit Lukaku debate up. Someone’s already created a thread for them and yet they still going on.

 

[Damien]

@Damien can you clean this shit Lukaku debate up. Someone’s already created a thread for them and yet they still going on.

Moved the posts from after the thread was made. Next post in this thread needs to be a tweet or the person who makes the non-tweet post will get a threadban for a week.

Lukaku discussion here: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/hating-lukaku.446707/unread

 

[ti vu]

Hahaha well if Sane is available then they would be insane not to buy him. But that doesn't seem likely so Zaha would be a good option available.

Same is rumor to hundergoing a fall out with Pep, and should be available. Zaha may be too expensive given he signed a new long extension coming into this season, and CP is entitled to demand any price they want.

 

[OoopsMisclick]

Not even a tweet on 2 pages...
Can everybody stop starting discussions here? Make a seperate thread for that please

 

[Ether]

 

[ti vu]

Don't see it. Icardi doesn't look one bit a player suitable to play with Ronaldo.