Trade Rooney for Barkley/other Everton player?

Everton have better players in the 10 and 9 positions. They couldn't afford his wages and even if they could, they are obviously aware of how shite he is now. I'm sure their fans wouldn't want him back and I doubt Wayne would want to go there either.
 
Stones would a good addition regardless of Rooney going to them. I have always said selling him to a side in the MLS was the best solution but I think a move to Everton would suit him better. I'm assuming both sets of family still live there and he probably wouldn't have to relocate or move too far. Wages will be an issues regardless of were he goes but I'm sure with the help of his agent he will squeeze something out of United. The likes of PSG will go no were near him, regardless of what managers have said about him there are better alternatives out there when it comes to strikers.
 
There's no way we'd be getting anything decent in return for Rooney. We'd be lucky to flog him for free, and if that is a possibility we should push for it to free up the wages.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Some mls team will do. Our only hope could be gerrard trying to get him to play for la galaxy.
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I don't follow MLS but LA galaxy pay Gerrard 4m GBP/year ? That's not even close to Rooney's current wage.

We stuck with him till 2017, at least...LvG probably will be gone by that time and new manager whoever that is, shall face the same problem.
 
fallengt said:
I don't follow MLS but LA galaxy pay Gerrard 4m GBP/year ? That's not even close to Rooney's current wage.

We stuck with him till 2017, at least...LvG probably will be gone by that time and new manager whoever that is, shall face the same problem.
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And in order not to 'piss of the fans'* he shall renew contract with him for another 2 years+.

*mind you that it's total bullshit, but it shall happen.
 
Rooney ego wont take it, why in the world would he wants to play for everton with less or same salary. He still wants the money, the captaincy, thr prestige of playing for united and captain of England.

You think he'd easilly hold his hands up and would agree to such a move??

If he's that noble he should just bench himself for now.

Ps: everton wont even touch him for free, he doesn't want a shit that wont flush with his wages and attitude.
 
Sky1981 said:
Rooney ego wont take it, why in the world would he wants to play for everton with less or same salary. He still wants the money, the captaincy, thr prestige of playing for united and captain of England.

You think he'd easilly hold his hands up and would agree to such a move??

If he's that noble he should just bench himself for now.

Ps: everton wont even touch him for free, he doesn't want a shit that wont flush with his wages and attitude.
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These points are spot on. It's useless to even speculate on this. The boy's ego is such that he actually believes he deserves all these things irrespective of any bad play on his part. The club has also fecked up by feeding his ego. I could see this so clearly, haven't we got anyone at the club with some goddamn common sense?
The only way to stop this is a swift execution - bite the bullet and pay off his contract if there are no clauses in there that we can take advantage of - and kick him out of the club immediately. If he stays on the bench, he will cause problems in the dressing room ala Stevie G and John Terry - they're all the same sort of personalities imo.
 
More likely he goes to PSG for 5M and us paying a third of his salary and we just spend a huge figure on Stones, Lukaku or Barkley. Everton are a proper business. We just can't sell them on Rooney for a massive wage, I don't think. And I'm not sure Rooney would go there. Wouldn't he rather go to Italy or France or Germany or Spain or the MLS then Everton?
 
If Everton didn't accept ~£40m for Stones from Chelsea, why would they accept Rooney?
 
Selling Rooney next summer would be one of the biggest achievements in Woodward career. I very much doubt this will happen in the foreseeable future. And he's definitely not staying in England.

The thing is, he won't be worth half as much for any other club in the world as he is for us (marketing wise).
Obviously there is another minor problem that he isn't good at football anymore.
 
I'm sure Everton would be thrilled with swapping their hottest young prospect and arguably best player for a has-been with declining legs who's scored a whooping 2 goals in 10 league apperances, who on top of that would demand a salary equal to that of their entire current first 11.

If we want to get rid of Rooney then its either some oil club like PSG (or City), or he buggers off to the MLS. Otherwise we're stuck with him for the foreseeable future.
 
This thread is bordering wum.

There's no way would Rooney go to Everton. There's no way they'd pay anywhere near his wages and there's no way we'd pay a substantial chunk of them if he wasn't a united player.
Swap deals rarely happen.

Rooney is here to stay boys.
 
Can you imagine fans talking about sending Bobby Charlton packing back in the day? lol
 
Rooney would be their best player. I'm amazed just how low his stock is.
 
Green_Red said:
Can you imagine fans talking about sending Bobby Charlton packing back in the day? lol
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To even compare them is silly. When Bobby Charlton was Rooney's current age he led us to our first ever European cup triumph, where he scored two of the goals in the final. That was not too long after winning the world cup with England. Ontop of that he never cried to the club about wages or threatened to move to City if he didn't get his way. Oh did I mention he also won the Ballon d'Or. Rooney on the other hand is an utter liability who requires around a 300 chances and hours of game time before scoring.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
Trade? This isn't America. Swap deals rarely ever happen in reality.
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Incorrect. It's exactly like the Panini football trading stickers. Chairmen and CEOs do exactly what we did as kids:

"Got, got, got, got, not got....."

I'm almost certain that this is how it works.....unless they use FM or Fifa Ultimate team these days instead...
 
Kaos said:
To even compare them is silly. When Bobby Charlton was Rooney's current age he led us to our first ever European cup triumph, where he scored two of the goals in the final. That was not too long after winning the world cup with England. Ontop of that he never cried to the club about wages or threatened to move to City if he didn't get his way. Oh did I mention he also won the Ballon d'Or. Rooney on the other hand is an utter liability who requires around a 300 chances and hours of game time before scoring.
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I'm pretty sure Rooney has won more titles for United than Charlton, and is close to having scored more goals, is in the top 10 of appearance makers and is captain of the club. I think in his 12 years at the club he has been a pretty good servant and hasn't had many bad patches. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
Green_Red said:
I'm pretty sure Rooney has won more titles for United than Charlton, and is close to having scored more goals, is in the top 10 of appearance makers and is captain of the club. I think in his 12 years at the club he has been a pretty good servant and hasn't had many bad patches. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Not saying he's a bad servant but to compare him to Charlton when he was the same age was ludicrous. The reason United fans didn't want to show Charlton the door was because he was probably the best player in the world at the time. Rooney on the other hand isn't even our best player in any position within the club.
 
Kaos said:
Not saying he's a bad servant but to compare him to Charlton when he was the same age was ludicrous. The reason United fans didn't want to show Charlton the door was because he was probably the best player in the world at the time. Rooney on the other hand isn't even our best player in any position within the club.
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You don't think he is comparable to Charlton then? England all time goalscorer, England captain, Manchester United second all time goal scorer, Man Utd captain. Both have won more or less a similar amount of silverware at the club, Rooney has won more in 12 years than Charlton did in 17, but that's neither here nor there.. I think they are pretty comparable.
 
predator said:
This thread is bordering wum.

There's no way would Rooney go to Everton. There's no way they'd pay anywhere near his wages and there's no way we'd pay a substantial chunk of them if he wasn't a united player.
Swap deals rarely happen.

Rooney is here to stay boys.
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Hasn't Rooney said previously that he'd like to play for Everton at the end of his career? And he seems to be at that point now. He must have factored in the fact that they'd pay much lower wages when he said that.
 
This isn't the NBA. Why would they want him back anyway?
 
Kaos said:
Not saying he's a bad servant but to compare him to Charlton when he was the same age was ludicrous. The reason United fans didn't want to show Charlton the door was because he was probably the best player in the world at the time. Rooney on the other hand isn't even our best player in any position within the club.
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Not in 1973 he wasn't. Bobby was knackered by then. He put in some sterling performances to help us avoid the drop but his best days were long past. Only three years earlier, he was an integral part of the England team that defended the World Cup in Mexico, but Busby left and the 1968 team was broken up. He had a last hurrah during Frank O'Farrell's first season but he really began to slow down after that. Believe it or not, people were saying similar things about him then as they're saying about Rooney today.
 
Moriarty said:
Not in 1973 he wasn't. Bobby was knackered by then. He put in some sterling performances to help us avoid the drop but his best days were long past. Only three years earlier, he was an integral part of the England team that defended the World Cup in Mexico, but Busby left and the 1968 team was broken up. He had a last hurrah during Frank O'Farrell's first season but he really began to slow down after that. Believe it or not, people were saying similar things about him then as they're saying about Rooney today.
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Charlton was 36 in 1973, Rooney's only just turned 30.
 
DJ Jeff said:
So I'm throwing a rather wild suggestion out there of getting the only outgoing transfer use we can get with Rooney (as I see it) and using him as a makeweight for an Everton player. Personally I think Barkley, Coleman or Stones would all fill a great big hole in our squad.
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If we do that, Scholes will call an emergency press conference and accuse LVG on how he hates forward players after selling RVP, Falcao, Hernandez, Welbeck and now Wayne only to buy another defender in Stones? Use your imagination mate.


If we need any of those players, we will get them on our own accord without trading Rooney for it. Wayne will be allowed to retire here if he wants.
 
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