I agree which is why PL is still the priority for me over the Europa, finish as close to City as possible
Top 4 race / race abandoned (or maybe not) / Leicester & Chelsea in the process of bottling it
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I agree which is why PL is still the priority for me over the Europa, finish as close to City as possible
I think we will lose to City away. And on the same matchday i think west ham drop points to everton
Everton are games in hands away from being a point behind you!
Did we have "Top 4 is in our hands" debate?
Leicester should be nervous once again. Another year they've spent almost entirely in the top 4 but could miss out late on with Chelsea and Liverpool hovering about. If West Ham keep on winning that could really mess things up though. Would not be surprised to see Chelsea miss out.
Its wide open right now
Liverpool have by far the easiest run in, and besides having to play us on 01.05 they only have bottom half teams
Chelsea vs West Ham on 24.4 is going to be absoloutely massive regarding top 4. And honestly, Chelsea have a pretty nasty fixture list from here on in. Brigton next weekeend then they have WHU, Fulham, City, Arsenal, Leichester and Villa
West Ham have Newcastle, Chelsea, Burnley, Everton, Brigton, West Brom, Soton
Leichester have West Brom, Palace, Soton, Newcastle, United, Chelsea and Spurs
None of them cant really afford to drop many points
Liverpool have by far the easiest run in, and besides having to play us on 01.05 they only have bottom half teams
Chelsea vs West Ham on 24.4 is going to be absoloutely massive regarding top 4. And honestly, Chelsea have a pretty nasty fixture list from here on in. Brigton next weekeend then they have WHU, Fulham, City, Arsenal, Leichester and Villa
West Ham have Newcastle, Chelsea, Burnley, Everton, Brigton, West Brom, Soton
Leichester have West Brom, Palace, Soton, Newcastle, United, Chelsea and Spurs
None of them cant really afford to drop many points
I did a predictor a week ago and did a near collapse for our part and we still finished 4th
I have Liverpool making 4th by goal difference, which irks me a lot.
Chelsea (and to a lesser extent Liverpool) still have a back door to the Champions League (via winning it this year). So depending on how it goes, one of these teams might concentrate on the CL which would benefit teams like West Ham or Leicester.
Same is true for United and Europa League, although of course we have a big enough gap already to be more or less assured of a top 4 finish
Same is true for United and Europa League, although of course we have a big enough gap already to be more or less assured of a top 4 finish
Same. I had us win just 3 games out of 8 and somehow we still finished 4th
If we beat Burnley on Sunday, we will go 10 points clear of 3rd place for a few days
Chelsea will have Real Madrid either side of a home game to Fulham. The final is a week after the last game of the prem season.
If (and it's a big if) we can beat Porto AND Real Madrid, it won't have much of an impact on our league games.
West Ham have a shot here, their fixture list is the softest of the lot. If they can get a result against Chelsea it’ll put them in a great position, but you often see teams bottle it when they’re not used to this scenario.
Leicester will miss out. Their last 3 games are brutal.
West Ham can have our spot in the top 4. We're going to win the fecker.
Yes, but still better Chelsea in the top 4 than Liverpool, I would have thought...
Yep, I had them as just managing to hold on a few weeks back, but looks likely now they will miss out right at the death again. Will be so frustrating for them if so, they've spent like 98% of the past two seasons in the top 4.
Leicester and West Ham 3rd and 4th.
"Easier" fixtures aren't as prominent in top four races, if any team were sweeping up in those type of games they wouldn't be fighting for 4th.
Furthermore, if anything that could work against West Ham. It's no secret that Moyes works better under the radar than with big expectations to perform, if they suddenly become fancied to secure a place the United Moyes could resurface.
I doubt Leicester will accumulate enough points with their fixtures, but we will see...
If city drops points in the following 2 games (Villa and Chelsea?) this will turn out to be one of the most exciting seasons in recent times.
Yes we shall...
I desperately hope they do. My predictor has City winning on 88, United 2nd on 76, Chelsea 3rd 71 and Leicester 4th.
My predictor sees the scousers as most likely to benefit from Leicester fecking it for a 2nd season in a row.
We'll the CL, you lot just make
If I was placing a bet right now, I'd bet on West Ham and Chelsea. I think Liverpool will drop points in 2 of their next 3 games.
I don't like West Ham at all, but it would be interesting to see them in the CL.
If I was placing a bet right now, I'd bet on West Ham and Chelsea. I think Liverpool will drop points in 2 of their next 3 games.
I don't like West Ham at all, but it would be interesting to see them in the CL.
I dont think west ham will beat them, and its on the same matchday as we play city away, so can almost afford a loss, provided everton help us haha
The way Lingard has slotted into the team I think he can have a very positive influence both on and off the field for their chances for top 4. Would honestly pay them back any loan fee if they kept Chelsea and the scousers out from CL football.
But it’s not like us winning all 7 remaining fixtures is certain. Especially if we play semifinal of the EL in between some of those
City's form always become a bit iffy when people start going on about that damn quadruple, so this scenario wouldn't even be that shocking
City are not doing the quadruple. They'll balls the CL up. Win the league, EFL, and the winners of us v them wins the FA cup. And they'll claim it to be a better treble than Utd 99
Guaranteed. No doubt they;re the best side in England right now, but i cant stand the arrogance on bluemoon. fecking nauseating. You'll never, ever, ever see them lose a match and the ref not be blamed or accused of being bias/paid off
Guaranteed. No doubt they;re the best side in England right now, but i cant stand the arrogance on bluemoon. fecking nauseating. You'll never, ever, ever see them lose a match and the ref not be blamed or accused of being bias/paid off
We'll know by our next league whether we still have CL games or not. Two games extra won't affect us that much imo, especially if it's (probably) just travelling to London.
Think Leicester will drop out to make room for either Liverpool or Chelsea. Liverpool have the easier run-in and most likely will be done in the CL, while Chelsea have better momentum, but also has to focus on a CL semi-final.
Will be really tight - so happy we are not part of it ourselves.
Will be really tight - so happy we are not part of it ourselves.
I wouldn't rule them out just yet. Their next four before that horror run in the last 3 are eminently winnable, and the last game of that horror run is likely not going to be that horrific if our game against Spurs was anything to go by.
They’ve already done the domestic treble a couple of years ago, so that wouldn’t be anything new. I think that’s more or less a certainty this season as well but hope you are correct that someone manages to stop them in UCL.
Rice and Antonio potentially out for the run in though
They actually looked very good without Rice on the weekend. I don't think they'll miss him that much.
They've started games really well recently and Lingard has been a huge part of that but they've also thrown away a 3 goal lead against Arsenal and clung on in their last two having gone 3-0 up.
They have Chelsea in a couple of weeks. I'm sure they'd much rather have Rice in for that one than Mark Noble.
What about the games before and after Madrid? Before the first Madrid game you've got West Ham away and after the second Madrid game you've got City away. Of course the UCL is going to have an impact on your league games
It's good to be not in the top 4 race for once.
Just because I'm not an animal, I can still go to the zoo.
Not saying it's not possible/won't be exciting, but 18/19 season literally went down to the last day. Liverpool would have been champions if games finished at half-time (I think). We won't push them that far unfortunately.
Liverpool can get an absolute maximum of 73 points if they win all of their remaining 7 fixtures (including us)
Chelsea can get an absolute maximum of 75 points, and on the way they need to beat both WHU and Leichester which means those two can get a maximum of 74 and 73 points respectively
If we win our next two PL games vs Burnley and Leeds we will be at 69 points, 6 more points in our last 5 remaining games and it would be mathematically impossible to either of Liverpool or Chelsea to catch us
Chelsea can get an absolute maximum of 75 points, and on the way they need to beat both WHU and Leichester which means those two can get a maximum of 74 and 73 points respectively
If we win our next two PL games vs Burnley and Leeds we will be at 69 points, 6 more points in our last 5 remaining games and it would be mathematically impossible to either of Liverpool or Chelsea to catch us