Glad that Leicester play Spurs before we play Chelsea on sunday.
Top 4 Race 19/20 | duffer: "We [Chelsea] are getting 3rd. Despite what the lunatics in here think, Man United are not all that."
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If Leicester lose, your game against them becomes less important and you can pick a stronger side against Chelsea.
I'm guessing because by the middle of our match Ole will know what sort of job we need to do against West Ham and can make the necessary subs vs Chelsea accordingly.
For example if Leicester win then there's a real possibility that we'll need to make serious ground up in our GD vs West Ham to have a chance on the last day and Ole won't want to risk/tire Bruno, Martial, Rashford etc..
However if Spurs win then we'll only need a win or draw vs West Ham to ensure that we only need a draw on the last day to make the top 4.
Although the Leicester/Spurs result won't be known by the time our line up has to be announced, we will at least know by kick off at Wembley what may be necessary against West Ham and then can plan the subs to fit.
EDIT: It's not a massive advantage to be honest since the Chelsea match vs Liverpool isn't until next week and that will also play a major role in what we need to do on the final day anyway.
Not quite as we'll have to announce our line up by 5:00 which will be kick off of the second half for Spurs/Leicester. But we will be able to plan any second half subs with the result known.
It won't. Even if Leicester lose and we win against West Ham, it will go to last match day.
If leicester and us both lose then all Leicester need is a draw on last day
If Leicester lose and we win, then all we need is a draw.
So Leicester losing game against Spurs shouldn't have any impact on our team selection.
I forgot about that 9 nil game. Bloody Southampton. Singlehandedly giving Leicester such a GD boost.It's all on Spurs now. Come on your twats!
Does anyone know whether away goal rule applies to head to head criterion?
I hope that ole and the rest of the squad are approaching this with the mindset that of we won our next two, we are in the top 4.
These possibilities and combinations are best left to fans and I'm sure if they get in the players head, then it might be a bit much.
These possibilities and combinations are best left to fans and I'm sure if they get in the players head, then it might be a bit much.
Depending on GD, we may also be in a position to lose by one goal in this case
In their defence, they did beat Leicester away.
Yeah but that means we should win by good margin against West Ham and also Spurs to win at least with 2 goals.
of course, but it’s totally possible for Spurs to win by 2 and us winning by 3 or 4. Nothing improbable
The two guarantees are:
Chelsea wont win at Liverpool
Leicester won't win at Spurs
Make of that what you want.
Chelsea wont win at Liverpool
Leicester won't win at Spurs
Make of that what you want.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/1262217
Yes they do. So the only scenario for a playoff match would be if United beat WH 5-1, Spurs beat Leicester 1-0, then Leicester beats United 1-0.
New rules came into play for this season.
It will mean if two or more clubs finish level on points when competing for the title, Champions League or Europa League places, or when relegation is at stake, their records in head-to-head matches will now be used to separate them.
It will mean if two or more clubs finish level on points when competing for the title, Champions League or Europa League places, or when relegation is at stake, their records in head-to-head matches will now be used to separate them.
If United and Leicester only need a point in the last game would we be allowed to just play out a 0-0?
What I make of that is you don't know what "guarantee" means.
Thank you. It’s actually in our favour (away goals in this instance)
No. Goal difference will decide it, then goals scored.
If West Ham win, they're safe regardless due to their superior goal difference
We may end up having same GD and goals scored with Leicester, so this is actually a possibility
Wait apologies, do you mean away goals overall? That is not the case. The order is this:
Points
Goal difference
Goals scored
Head to head record
Head to head goal difference
Head to head away goals
If all of that is tied, then it goes to a playoff. That's why the results I listed have to be the exact scores.
EDIT: removed head to head goals scored as it's irrelevant; cheers @Riz for catching that
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Yes but that's not what he said. He said if we finish level on points it goes to head to head.
i meant away goals in a head to head. We won 1-0 atOld trafford, so if we lose to Leicester by 1 goal, we may still lose 1-2 or 2-3 and it will get us through on head to head away goals.
That doesn't make sense, if you have the same head to head GD you must have the same goals scored?
The combinations dont matter. What we have to do is win both our fixtures.
Whoops! Good catch, my mistake.
I think I'll never take a guarantee from you. That's a guarantee.
Gotcha yes, that makes sense as you still have an opportunity to get a more valuable goal.
Liverpool 0-2 Chelsea
Spurs 2-2 Leicester
those are my predictions. Do not count on Liverpool because it’ll end in tears. They won’t come out of first gear against Chelsea. While Chelsea will play like it’s a cup final.
On paper Spurs/Leicester should be a barn burner because both are good going forward and bad at the back. Unless Mourinho opts to park the bus which he really shouldn’t considering Spurs still have a shot at 6th & a EL place.
Honestly it's amazing how tight it is, fantastic drama to watch. Liverpool and City should be roundly criticised for making the title race shite in comparison
I really hope I'm wrong, but given how exhausted we look, I can't see us beating Leicester
As a corollary - I really hope that if we go far in the Europa League, it doesn't leave us burned out for the start of next seasonAs a Liverpool fan, how do you expect the team to approach it? You’ll know the players & Klopp more than me. Can you see them playing at preseason pace & essentially rolling over? Or would Klopp not allow that?
I remember you played them in 2010 during their title race with us & bar one long ranger from Aquilani (remember him) offered absolutely nothing & basically just surrendered to Chelsea. That’s kinda what I’m expecting to be honest. Hope I’m wrong though
If someone put us in this situation before the restart and knowing that 5th place was no longer an option due to City's successful appeal then we wud have snapped their hand off.
People giving out about the Southampton result. What about Leicester's shambolic result against Bournemouth. Stop stressing yourselves out.
Just win the next two games and we're sorted. (I actually think a draw against Leicester will do as I don't think they will beat Spurs)
People giving out about the Southampton result. What about Leicester's shambolic result against Bournemouth. Stop stressing yourselves out.
Just win the next two games and we're sorted. (I actually think a draw against Leicester will do as I don't think they will beat Spurs)
We're unbeaten at Anfield in the league since April 2017. We won't want to lose that record. I might be wrong but I think we've never lost two league games back to back under Klopp.
We were rubbish that season and Chelsea were outstanding. We're a much better side now and we won't roll over for them.
I think you'll be fine. Last night was a big win.Honestly it's amazing how tight it is, fantastic drama to watch. Liverpool and City should be roundly criticised for making the title race shite in comparison
I really hope I'm wrong, but given how exhausted we look, I can't see us beating Leicester
Don't give Vardy space and you can lock the whole team. There is no one better than Jose to do that. Leicester wouldn't win. Could be a dire draw or win for Spurs but Leicester aren't winning it.
We should have enough to beat Leicester on the final day which seals it for us, no? We should be taking advantage of all their injuries. Chelsea will draw against Liverpool (despite Liverpool's win at Stamford Bridge I thought Chelsea had a good game against them)
Sidenote: I just want to note you're all CL anthem whores and I for one can't wait to ban non-champions from the CL upon seizing power, because this amount of attention and angst over who finishes 3rd and 4th is annoying
Sidenote: I just want to note you're all CL anthem whores and I for one can't wait to ban non-champions from the CL upon seizing power, because this amount of attention and angst over who finishes 3rd and 4th is annoying
Why does the thing under your name say Arsenal supporter?