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Top 10 greatest players of all time
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No Rensenbrink?
Maybe if he had actually scored in 1978 instead of hitting the post.
No1 Pele. His record combining club and international football is unmatched.
No2 George Best. Best actual footballer ever.
No3 Diego Maradona - put in Messi like performances whilst having the crap kicked out of him on the pitch and snorting loads of crap off it.
No2 George Best. Best actual footballer ever.
No3 Diego Maradona - put in Messi like performances whilst having the crap kicked out of him on the pitch and snorting loads of crap off it.
1. Messi
2. Pelé
3. Maradona
4. Cryuff
5. C. Ronaldo
6. Di Stefano
7. Beckenbaur
8. Puskas
9. George Best
10. Ronaldo Nazario.
2. Pelé
3. Maradona
4. Cryuff
5. C. Ronaldo
6. Di Stefano
7. Beckenbaur
8. Puskas
9. George Best
10. Ronaldo Nazario.
thanks i didnt realise but still people saying 3 WCs for but not noting he didnt play most of one should be called out. pele is great regardless.
I think 5 days ago Beckenbauer would habe been lower on a lot of lists.
Pele in Europe is essentially Antony
I’m usually quite a cynic but I think Beckenbauer places high regardless
It’s unmatched because half of it is made up
Daaaaamn. Man is probably responsible for an entire generation of Dutchies with a chip on their shoulder. Justified to a degree probably mind you.
Are you seriously suggesting Cruyff and Beckenbauer having less impact on footie as a whole than Messi?
And I'm not talking about it in terms of increasing popularity of the sport. I'm talking contributions to the sport on and off the pitch that go beyond the commercial appeal.I'm basing my list on players that were genius during a period they could be kicked and tackled by absolute animals. How would Messi deal with being tackled by a Roy Keane or Paul Ince. He doesn't face that level of player tackling him so he's got away with stuff others would never have got away with.
1. Maradona
2. Pele
3. Zidane
4. Best
5. Messi
6. Ronaldo (Brazil)
7. C Ronaldo
8. Ronaldinho
9. Cruyff
10. Batistuta
1. Maradona
2. Pele
3. Zidane
4. Best
5. Messi
6. Ronaldo (Brazil)
7. C Ronaldo
8. Ronaldinho
9. Cruyff
10. Batistuta
Cool.
Not really mine honestly, I was -5 in 1978
1. Messi
2. C. Ronaldo
3. Maradona
4. Pelé
5. Zidane
6. Best
7. Charlton
8. Ronaldo
9. Giggs
10. Ronaldinho
2. C. Ronaldo
3. Maradona
4. Pelé
5. Zidane
6. Best
7. Charlton
8. Ronaldo
9. Giggs
10. Ronaldinho
Best above Messi is RAWK and Bluemoon levels of delusion
And this was my personal opinion of your personal list
Anyone with the username Rojo needs to be ignored.
Bye bye
You are very funny, I'll give you that
You're not.
Stop replying, it was a personal list. Don't agree, fine. Don't give a shit.
I said in my post, I appreciate players who could mix it in the era that players were allowed to tackle.
This would bog down to another C.Ronaldo is not top 4 and Messi is not as good as pele.
As it always are. Nobody cared about other names but these 2. Anyone not having C. Ronaldo on top 5 at least is just trying to be hipster.
I even see Ryan Giggs in top 10?
As it always are. Nobody cared about other names but these 2. Anyone not having C. Ronaldo on top 5 at least is just trying to be hipster.
I even see Ryan Giggs in top 10?
Nope. You can check old threads on the topic; Beckenbauer is always 4-7 and always locked with Cruyff; one above or below.
It's also funny that people mentioned past greats and say look at their highlights while neglecting that you can make hours upon hours of the same highlights from CR7 and Messi. It's as if they dont have a reels of their own.
feck me i tried watching Ronaldo all goald and I fell asleep because there's like 600 of them and it takes hours to finish.
But hey. I bet you never watch those old vintage highlights of Stefano, Best etc
feck me i tried watching Ronaldo all goald and I fell asleep because there's like 600 of them and it takes hours to finish.
But hey. I bet you never watch those old vintage highlights of Stefano, Best etc
If anyone seen Puskas please tell me how he played. Im too young, i only watched some low quality clips about him.
1. Maradona
2. Messi
3. Pele
4. Cruyff
5. Ronaldo
6. Christiano
7. Beckenbauer
8. Charlton
9. Best
10. Ronaldinho
2. Messi
3. Pele
4. Cruyff
5. Ronaldo
6. Christiano
7. Beckenbauer
8. Charlton
9. Best
10. Ronaldinho
Not really fond of rankings.
I preffer to talk about characteristics and mainly preffering certain players in relation to what I'm more fond.
My favorite one is Diego, but I do not think he had the best carreer and there are fellas like Pele, Alfredo, Johan and Messi that just for start had better carreers while also being all around geniuses.
Others are more role oriented like Cristiano, Franz, R9, Romario, Eusebio, Garrincha...some with genius level aspects ability, others with Genius level carreers.
Some I think that deserve better recognition as whole packages in the mold of the usual Top Tier suspects like Platini, Zico and Puskas.
And fellas like Sivori, Best, RG, Rivelino and such had really close power/pace/technical ability as the usual top tier ones, but for one reason or other, we tend to "feel" the fell short to be in that top top bracket.
And lastely lads like Laudrup, Zidane, Iniesta and such just doesn't have that extra athletism/power/pace that comes with the very very top echelon in an all time consideration
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PD: The ones putting Best, Charlton and The Kaiser and not putting Di Stefano in the same list, let me tell youn that even them would disagree with you.
I preffer to talk about characteristics and mainly preffering certain players in relation to what I'm more fond.
My favorite one is Diego, but I do not think he had the best carreer and there are fellas like Pele, Alfredo, Johan and Messi that just for start had better carreers while also being all around geniuses.
Others are more role oriented like Cristiano, Franz, R9, Romario, Eusebio, Garrincha...some with genius level aspects ability, others with Genius level carreers.
Some I think that deserve better recognition as whole packages in the mold of the usual Top Tier suspects like Platini, Zico and Puskas.
And fellas like Sivori, Best, RG, Rivelino and such had really close power/pace/technical ability as the usual top tier ones, but for one reason or other, we tend to "feel" the fell short to be in that top top bracket.
And lastely lads like Laudrup, Zidane, Iniesta and such just doesn't have that extra athletism/power/pace that comes with the very very top echelon in an all time consideration
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PD: The ones putting Best, Charlton and The Kaiser and not putting Di Stefano in the same list, let me tell youn that even them would disagree with you
.Crazy to not have George Best on this list.
Looks like Best is the Ronaldinho of UK, uh?
A bit less overrated than R10 in Brazil, because he's in basically every top 10 around here and people will look at you with fire in the eyes if you leave him out of the top 5; probably because Best shone for United, while Ronaldinho had his prime abroad.
A bit less overrated than R10 in Brazil, because he's in basically every top 10 around here and people will look at you with fire in the eyes if you leave him out of the top 5; probably because Best shone for United, while Ronaldinho had his prime abroad.
Please, elucidate me on how Cruyff and Beckenbauer, as players, had such tactical impact in football to the point of it overwhelm Messi's supreme ability to generate goal chances out of nothing.Are you seriously suggesting Cruyff and Beckenbauer having less impact on footie as a whole than Messi?
Maybe you're mixing up their general image in the discussion(great coaches(at least one of them), well-spoken and politically influential persons(especially when in contrast to Messi)).
Messi had a tactical impact on football? What change to the game has Messi brought about? I'm not discounting he is a great player, clearly statistically the greatest ever - but the game is no different because of him.
Sure you can use a throw away line like Best shone for Utd to dismiss him but as someone who actually got to watch him play in his prime he was a genius with the football. The best way I can explain it to you is that every time I watched when ever he got the ball a buzz would go through the crowd from both sets of fans. I have Ronaldhino in m y list because I thought he epitomised what I love to see in football. BTW My list is just an opinion, it doesnt mean Im right.
I meant that shining for a big club in a country makes other fans have a level of disdain for this player. As Ronaldinho had his prime in Spain, Brazilian fans don't have this kind of antipathy towards him. I didn't try to deride United in any way.
Still, Best is very overrated in UK(just my opinion, of course) because of his nice style of play and mystical figure, just like Ronaldinho in Brazil(I mean, both really great players, but top 10 material? I don't think so).
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Well top ten in my list.
Messi practically created the false 9 roles which lead to many teams not relying on having a traditional number 9 striker.
Messi also proved you can be a high scoring forward as well a deep lying play maker at the same time. He proved you can play like Pirlo and Gerd Muller at the same time.
Maradonna good pele better George best
Maradona good, Péle better, George Best.
Messi
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Charlton
Baresi
Platini
Di Stefano
Puskas
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Charlton
Baresi
Platini
Di Stefano
Puskas
Lionel Messi did no such thing, though; much like Claude Makelélé did not practically create the defensive midfielder role. The “False 9” or deep-lying forward concept is one of the oldest in organized football, and Messi was following in the footsteps of some genuine heavyweights.
False nine: ancient tactical curveball still retains the power to shock
Guardiola was more than familar with the role because his biggest inspiration, Johan Cruyff, was the most iconic and effective False 9 of bygone eras, and even the Dream Team of Barcelona, which was coached by Cruyff himself of course, periodically functioned with a makeshift False 9 in Michael Laudrup...
Johan Cruyff, among others, had already proven that you can be a high scoring forward, one of the most dazzling dribblers around as well as a masterful principal playmaker in preceding decades, with a peak of 201 goals and 138 assists in 256 matches for Ajax, while organizing the entire team as its cerebrum and orchestrator-in-chief (something Messi didn't quite accomplish for a meaningful period of time as that responsibility fell squarely on Xavi's shoulders at Barcelona). For comparison, Gerd Müller had scored 241 goals in 259 matches for Bayern Munich in the exact same timeframe.
Xavi is vastly, vastly overrated by some here. Great player, but having him in a top 10 list of all time is ludicrous and reeks of recency bias and fanboyism. All I have to say.