Slowly read what you wrote. You just said our best player is not cut out for the league. Then what about the other 22 players? Based on that we might as well disband the club since not even a single player in the team is cut out for the league then. Not a single player in the team that placed second in the league last season is cut out for the league. Honestly think about it slowly and hard. If admittedly by your own words, he is our best player and he is not cut out for the league. Then what do we do?
Too many Pogba to Juventus rumours
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Slowly read what you wrote. You just said our best player is not cut out for the league. Then what about the other 22 players? Based on that we might as well disband the club since not even a single player in the team is cut out for the league then. Not a single player in the team that placed second in the league last season is cut out for the league. Honestly think about it slowly and hard. If admittedly by your own words, he is our best player and he is not cut out for the league. Then what do we do?
I'm absolutely shocked...
Not at the rumours, but the people on here claiming he's been brilliant and our best player...
Jesus Christ...
Not at the rumours, but the people on here claiming he's been brilliant and our best player...
Jesus Christ...
lol
Have you been living in a cave this season?
Best player probably, with Martial second. Brilliant...probably not. I would say he has improved from last season, more disciplined and simple. I still think Pogba can get better than he is now.
I'd give Pogba a solid 7/10 so far this season.Sure he like the rest of the team have had their fair share of bobbin performances but Pogba has usually responded from such showings,unlike some of his teammates.
But anyway, I cant see Pogba leaving in January.The summer though ? who knows.I guess its dependant on 1.where we finish 2. if Jose is still at the club and 3.the ambition United will show in the summer TW.
But anyway, I cant see Pogba leaving in January.The summer though ? who knows.I guess its dependant on 1.where we finish 2. if Jose is still at the club and 3.the ambition United will show in the summer TW.
You must be watching the games with blinders over your eyes then. In that case,who's been our best player this season?
DDG hasn't played anywhere near his own lofty standards and Martial wasn't a regular fixture in the squad until October.
Those who dismiss these rumors as nothing but fake are highly deluded.
Pogba is the one pushing for these rumors to come out, he clearly wants out.
Pogba is the one pushing for these rumors to come out, he clearly wants out.
I don’t think you’re fully grasping how shite we are and how difficult it is to shine playing for such a dysfunctional side, particularly for a midfielder.
He’s comfortably the best player we have.
By selling more cars, obviously.
This season? Perhaps, even though he was bossed in two or three games.
But, I'm talking overall, since he came back.
Laughable people don’t think he’s our best player. Look at the difference in performances when he’s not in the side.
Juve wouldn’t pay the fee we’d ask for him.
Juve wouldn’t pay the fee we’d ask for him.
I'm shocked people don't think he's been our best player this season. 
What have they been watching? The start of the season was between he and Shaw. After Tottenham, he's been the only consistent player with Martial doing well the last 2 months. There's been like 3 bad performances from Pogba this entire season. And even in those, the whole team was pretty much crap.
What have they been watching? The start of the season was between he and Shaw. After Tottenham, he's been the only consistent player with Martial doing well the last 2 months. There's been like 3 bad performances from Pogba this entire season. And even in those, the whole team was pretty much crap.
Pogba doing a Ronnie.
I've come to the acceptance that this particular team isn't at the stage for a title and therefore all pieces are moveable. The good thing is we do have talent in the squad but at this point with the way we play and the atmosphere around the team, I feel we can get more on and off the pitch value than the players are worth. It doesn't look like a squad that has been shaped well, and sometimes one has to remove some of the fundamental pieces to reshape an object. If selling Pogba allows us to shape the midfield in a way Mourinho or a new manager can use to be successful, then why not? His fee will be massive and can be used to attract other players....it's what liverpool did.
Agreed.
Definitely.
So do I, but I think we'll all have to get used to the likelihood that he'll always be inconsistent and occasionally immature. As long as he's good to great most of the time, it's probably a price worth paying, but he will always have the capacity to frustrate and annoy.
He’s been our best player but in reality he’s been the best out of a bad lot. Has he been better than last season ? Yes. Has he been brilliant ? Not a chance .
I don’t really understand why these rumours have surfaced again ? Quiet week by the tabloids maybe.
I don’t really understand why these rumours have surfaced again ? Quiet week by the tabloids maybe.
I disagree. I feel he's been brilliant regardless of his teammates. Only thing missing are those long range solo goals, but at that point it would go from brilliant to easily best midfielder of the season.
your spot on, hes exactly the same as Seb Veron, suited Italy to perfection but not cut out for the premiership every week for me, i have no doubt if he went to spain he would look a superstar.
technically it would be impossible to prove, but a KDB is better for a start and if i had time i am positive i could think of more, not sure why any one is convinced he's some kind of sensation for united
Technically, I didn't ask you to prove it, only convince people with your reasoning. On a discussion forum that seems reasonable. KDB is probably the most suitable alternative I can think of for Pogba, but I very much doubt we'd be any better of with him instead. He's functioning in a team perfectly suited to him, and doesn't seem to have been missed much by City in his absence.
And you're on a football forum, of course you have time to think of a few world class footballers...
The funny thing is that he did actually jump into the crowd about 5mins after the game, spent a good minute there and gave someone his shirt.
Its' just Raiola doing Raiola things. Don't mind it.
This is spot on. Raiola is keeping the stove hot until Pogs gets a new deal or is sold. That's the way he rolls.
As a sidenote, Italian media is very much riding on the surge of confidence that the Ronaldo purchase brought to the Calcio. All of the sudden they believe that they can have anyone, but they're ignoring the fact that they got him because he was 33. And yes, Modric will probably end in Inter but he's also on his last legs.
The day Juve gets a top, top player in his late 20's that the Premier giants, Real or Barsa also covet and outspend them, that's the day I'll pay attention.
If Pogba leaves anytime soon, it would only be to one of 3 clubs, PSG, Barsa and Real Madrid. They're the only ones that could pay the United asking price.
So he leaves Man Utd then comes back to Man Utd. Then he leaves Juventus and goes back to Juventus. I'd say he had serious daddy issues.
Laughable? He's done nothing to suggest he's better than De Gea. I think Pogba is great but let him perform like the best in his position on the planet for a few years before putting him on DDG's padestal. This is a player many consider as good/better than even Peter Schmeichel.
Maybe I wasn't clear. When I said not cut out for the EPL, what I meant is that Pogba is not suited for the EPL. I don't think he's a poor player. Quite the opposite, I said that I think he's a quality player. That is why I drew comparisons with the Italian league when I said that he suits the Italian league more.
However, even though Pogba is not suited for the EPL. And what I mean is that he's not able to show 100% of his ability in the EPL, he is still outperforming all of our other players on a regular basis. Therefore, we should not sell him, unless he wants to leave, and we get a big price or a big player.
I mean, more disciplined and simple is not something I would ascribe to Pogba this season. The Everton game was definitely a prime example of a lack of that. I would say the Juve game as well, but he was supposedly injured. He has never showed anything to me to suggest he is a mature CM. He certainly makes things happen though, gives the ball away far too often too play deep.
Anyway, I wouldn’t sell him for anything.
Anyway, I wouldn’t sell him for anything.
not sure what the point of asking then if we cant prove it, so its a pointless comparision, the difference with the 2 is KDB made himself important to the side, he played mostly on the wing his 1st season with pep then was mostly in the middle because his work rate was superb, city last season were a better side then they have been this season and for me down to no KDB.
depends what you mean by World class, cant believe for a second if we had a Modric or Eriksen instead of Pogba we would be worse of as well.
TBF, I think people often mean non-GKs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...IFA-review-transfer-rules-Raiola-payment.html
Is Raiola still his agent ? I wonder what he earns from another move ?
Is Raiola still his agent ? I wonder what he earns from another move ?
There is nothing in that. Pogba signed on a free transfer and had a clause that 25% of the transfer fee will be paid to him and Juventus did. Don't see anything wrong with that or any third party ownership.
Honestly past caring with this guy. I have zero affinity to him as a Manchester United player. If I knew how to post gifs I would have that one of Alan Partridge shrugging here.
I didn't say there was
I asked if Raiola is still his agent and wondered if so, what he earns from a move
There is absolutely no question that Raiola was conflicted in the last move. Most agents are conflicted come transfer time because this is the one industry where the client (the player) doesn't pay the agent's fee, even if the agent;s only roles is in representing the player however in this instance Raiola represented all three parties, hence being more conflicted than in a more typical transfer
But again, my questions were pretty simply and weren't even hinting at wrongdoing
This thread is another absolute car crash
All the nutters come out when it's got Pogba involved.
All the nutters come out when it's got Pogba involved.
I think he's a late bloomer, the only thing lacking is a bit of level-headedness, which is something that tends to develop for midfielders in their late twenties.
He has already gotten a very good world cup under his belt, and he was instrumental in the final. The next step is to raise his bottom level so he can be relied upon in 95% of games.
Swap for Pjanic + Dybala
See ya Paul
See ya Paul
Et tu GB?
Yup. I’ve never been convinced by Pogba, not entirely. Not even at Youth level. Sure he’s a very good player but if we must sacrifice him for 2 players above then I wouldn’t shed a tear..
Fantasy I know
Like those two would even want to join us