Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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I hope so.

Whilst he was slightly overrated by our own fans at times, he was criminally underrated and used as a scapegoat by everyone else.

Hes perfectly capable of continuing a good career at a club like Villa and good luck to him. Will be sad to see the back of his missus though.

I won't :drool:
 
Cleverley had the wrong mentality, I remember in the last 2 seasons he was willing to push his teammates under the bus when under pressure, by getting rid of the ball to a teammate who was under even more pressure.

This is true. I actually forgot about comparing his mentality to Young's and Fellaini's when I made my post. It probably wouldn't have got any better for him.
 
The Arsenal story is surely nonsense.

I hope it isn't. :lol:

I can just picture Cleverley, all smug: "Told you so."
 
If Flamini can play there, everyone can.....

Good luck to Clevz if he goes, he is a good player who just went through the rough patch(like most of our team n that period) and was victim of retarded fans which he couldnt deal with it. That showed us that he probably isnt mentally good enough to be a United player which is a shame as he is our youth product and a talented player.
 
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Oh thats prob the best transfer talk all season. Every Arsenal fan I know have now gone very quiet on this whilst they dig around.
 
According to Sky there are 9 clubs interested in him, 5 Premier League clubs Villa, Spurs, Everton, west ham and Arsenal! Two clubs in Spain and one Italy, no names given and then Schalke. Contract offers have been given from the European sides.
Wow, how he got so much interest from his last two seasons worth of piss poor showings?
Late april fools day joke? Surely :wenger:
 
Definitely the wrong thread, but no idea where else to put this. Anyone see on Sky Sports that Arsenal are interested in signing him in the summer? Surely that's a piss take.
If you look at Tom Cleverley the footballer and not the man he's actually very good. He's demonstrated a footballing brain, passing range, technique and fitness. If someone can take him, instil confidence into him and get him playing in a team that suits his strengths, like Fellaini, he'll do well. I think his biggest problem is his personality and self-belief isn't strong enough to deal with criticism and make himself better from it.
 
Definitely the wrong thread, but no idea where else to put this. Anyone see on Sky Sports that Arsenal are interested in signing him in the summer? Surely that's a piss take.

Think they're trying to assemble the team that beat them 8-2. They'll be trying to get Evans and Anderson next.
 
He wouldn't get a game at spurs or arsenal, there were similar links when we were looking to get rid of him at the start of the season but the only teams interested were villa and everton and it will probably be the same story this summer.
 
arsenal :lol: Will end up at Everton. Didnt Valencia want him in the summer? I cant see him going to another league.
 
He wouldn't get a game at spurs or arsenal, there were similar links when we were looking to get rid of him at the start of the season but the only teams interested were villa and everton and it will probably be the same story this summer.
We did try and sell him had an agreement in place but his salary demands killed it.
 
According to Sky there are 9 clubs interested in him, 5 Premier League clubs Villa, Spurs, Everton, west ham and Arsenal! Two clubs in Spain and one Italy, no names given and then Schalke. Contract offers have been given from the European sides.
Wow, how he got so much interest from his last two seasons worth of piss poor showings?
If Schalke are really interested in him then i hope he goes there.
 
Didnt he say pre-season "im a LVG type player".

I bet Welbeck recommended him and tbf, they had a good understanding as you could see when they first broke into the team. Its a shame brand TC23 took over (and of course that Kevin Davies injury).
 
Does anyone think LvG can have a similar impact on him that he's had on Young, Felli et al?

Young and Fellaini, though, were a different situation. Both had been good players in the past and just needed to refind those abilities. Cleverley I don't think has ever really shown that he can be more than a very decent squad player.
 
If you look at Tom Cleverley the footballer and not the man he's actually very good. He's demonstrated a footballing brain, passing range, technique and fitness. If someone can take him, instil confidence into him and get him playing in a team that suits his strengths, like Fellaini, he'll do well. I think his biggest problem is his personality and self-belief isn't strong enough to deal with criticism and make himself better from it.

This all day. Cleverley has a lot of talent but just completely melts under any pressure.
 
Does anyone think LvG can have a similar impact on him that he's had on Young, Felli et al?
I think his time was up on the pre season tour last season, when he talked about this been his time to shine and was given the captaincy in a pre season match which resulted in him being subbed off at half time.

Like Welbeck he's a good player who was managed by a exceptional manager.
 
If you look at Tom Cleverley the footballer and not the man he's actually very good. He's demonstrated a footballing brain, passing range, technique and fitness. If someone can take him, instil confidence into him and get him playing in a team that suits his strengths, like Fellaini, he'll do well. I think his biggest problem is his personality and self-belief isn't strong enough to deal with criticism and make himself better from it.

Disagree on the first two, agree ohnth second. His touch is actually pretty damn good, rarely have any complaints about that. You just don't notice its good cos he never does anything with it once he's brought it under control. Even when he played quite well for Wigan and had a good little run of a few games before Davies he wasn't really making long range passes
 
If you listen to him speak its not confidence he lacks. He comes across as needing a slap across the face and a reality check. He's got too much of an opinion on his ability, he could do with getting his head down and actually getting up to the level he thinks he is at.
 
If you listen to him speak its not confidence he lacks. He comes across as needing a slap across the face and a reality check. He's got too much of an opinion on his ability, he could do with getting his head down and actually getting up to the level he thinks he is at.

I get the impression that he's convinced that if he played in Spain, he would be lauded as a great player.
 
People will talk about Delph's performance today, and rightly so, but I felt Cleverley was outstanding in Villa's midfield too. He pressed well, kept the ball and put in some really good and important tackles.
 
People will talk about Delph's performance today, and rightly so, but I felt Cleverley was outstanding in Villa's midfield too. He pressed well, kept the ball and put in some really good and important tackles.
I fully agree. He looked a lot sharper than in his final months with us. I wonder if LvG wants him back. And if he does, I look forward to seeing what Louis, the man that brought back the real Young, the real Fellaini and the real Valencia, can turn him into. Happy days. No white text...I'm serious!
 
He's going to be laughing at us all with his F.A Cup medal in a few weeks. Then he'll have shown us what we're missing, and all we'll be able to do is look on like a jealous ex-boyfriend.


Maybe. Not really. Whatever.
 
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