Yes, he was disappointing in quite a few games. I think most fans would agree.
But do you think slating your own player is logical?
I don't.
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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Yes, he was disappointing in quite a few games. I think most fans would agree.
But do you think slating your own player is logical?
I don't.
Tom Cleverley sells his custom-engraved Manchester United watch... so is time ticking on his OId Trafford career?
The midfielder, who is on loan at Aston Villa from Old Trafford, has sold his one-of-a-kind Manchester United timepiece to a pawnbroker in Blackpool.
Cleverley looks to have cashed in on the Hublot watch which is engraved with his name and United squad number of 23.
The Blackpool-based pawnbroker is looking to sell the watch for £17,500 and advertising it as the only one ever made.
Cleverley has been at Manchester United since he joined as an 11-year-old back in 2000, but looks like his career at Old Trafford may have come to an end after he signed for Villa on a season-long loan deal.
The midfielder has featured in five games for Villa this season – but only been on the winning side once, in his first game against Liverpool.
Bit weird if he sold it for the reason he wasn't going to play for us anymore, considering after he captained us on the pre season tour he even said "Despite what happens now (obvious reference to his future) I can now say I have captained Manchester United, nobody can take that away from me" so it's a bit weird to sell a custom player only watch, obviously not for monetary reasons, who knows why he did it..
Who really cares I suppose tbh, it's a watch.
- Tom Cleverley sells his custom Hublot watch to a pawnbroker
- Blackpool-based pawnbroker lists watch for £17,500
- Cleverley left Manchester United for Aston Villa on a season-long loan
The midfielder, who is on loan at Aston Villa from Old Trafford, has sold his one-of-a-kind Manchester United timepiece to a pawnbroker in Blackpool.
Cleverley looks to have cashed in on the Hublot watch which is engraved with his name and United squad number of 23.
The Blackpool-based pawnbroker is looking to sell the watch for £17,500 and advertising it as the only one ever made.
Cleverley has been at Manchester United since he joined as an 11-year-old back in 2000, but looks like his career at Old Trafford may have come to an end after he signed for Villa on a season-long loan deal.
The midfielder has featured in five games for Villa this season – but only been on the winning side once, in his first game against Liverpool.
Bit weird if he sold it for the reason he wasn't going to play for us anymore, considering after he captained us on the pre season tour he even said "Despite what happens now (obvious reference to his future) I can now say I have captained Manchester United, nobody can take that away from me" so it's a bit weird to sell a custom player only watch, obviously not for monetary reasons, who knows why he did it..
Who really cares I suppose tbh, it's a watch.
He'll have loads of United stuff. Probably just clearing stuff out and thought he'd get rid.
Why people sell that. He earns that money in a week, why then sell a your watch for 17k?
Less than 17k if the broker is selling for 17k.
Less than 17k if the broker is selling for 17k.
Probably lost it in a card game
Obviously bitter about how he's been treated since Van Gaal came in. You'd think that would be a treasured possession for a young player that's been at the club that long but similar to Danny, being rejected by the club you love can be painful.
He's actually done well at Villa and is their most frequent ball winner, showing a vast improvement to his defensive game. He averages winning the ball over 5 times a game with tackles and interceptions so far in his games for them. He's unlikely to save his United career but if he keeps it up he can still be a good CM in the premier league and for England.
Thread name change to Tom Cleverley - sell watch.
Who the hell is going to spend 17k on that?! Fair enough it's a genuine Man Utd watch that maybe would tickle the fancy of some ridiculously rich United fan who likes pointlessly expensive watches, except the fact it used to be Tom Cleverley's which then removes all of it's value to any United fan.
Cleverley just sold his watch. Cleverley just SOLD his watch.
Can he sell himself next
I don't like him as a person even
Why would he sell his watch when he probably makes more than he got for it a week? 
Usually, footballers are good eggs with stuff like this and auction it for charity.
Bad form.
Bad form.
Forgot he existed until the commentator suddenly mentioned his name tonight. How has he been doing?
He was ok tonight. Nothing special, but was effective. Basically he's performing at a decent level for a club who are mid table.
Did his part defensively, held his position and made one or two good tackles. Aston Villa didn't see much of the ball, instead they defended very deep and you could say that this kind of games don't suit Cleverley. But the truth is he didn't try to get on the ball and help his team ease the pressure off a little bit by recycling possession in the midfield. He attempted two dangerous through balls in the second half but they got intercepted.
Basically he's performing no different at Villa than he did with us but at Villa with far less scrutiny he can get on with it. At United or any big club if you're out of your depth you stand out. Doesn't mean he can't still go down a level and be an asset.
Doing the same sort of thing for Villa as he mostly ended up doing for us (averaging out the better and worse spells): can pass the ball, can run around a bit, rarely makes a bad mistake, rarely produces a standout moment. Which is good enough to be a regular starter for Villa at the moment.
How has he been in relative to the other midfielders there like Sanchez, Westwood and Delph?
Pretty nothing player, its clear now. He's no better than the other mid table to relegation team's midfielders.
He's improved his defensive workrate (or efficiency) because he's been Villa's main tackler this season (Lowton averages more, but only played 3 games)
On the ball he's Tom Cleverley
If he continues to add to his game defensively he could probably come back and make it as a squad player. But will he be okay with a couple of games a season and no England career to speak of? Unlikely. Expect someone to take him though
On the ball he's Tom Cleverley
If he continues to add to his game defensively he could probably come back and make it as a squad player. But will he be okay with a couple of games a season and no England career to speak of? Unlikely. Expect someone to take him though
He's definitely found his level I think. But I hope he does well with them.
He runs around a lot, doesn’t really do anything of any significance good or bad, gets too close to players demanding the ball with his arms out then passes it back to them or sideways too much but has a good work rate and is doing a decent job.
Hopefully he joins Villa permanently, he can play every week, have a decent career and we get some money for him, I think he will leave for Everton on a free in the summer though and end up on the bench there. For 10 teams in the league he is probably a decent, solid CM, for the other ten he is either a squad/backup player or someone who shouldn’t even be used unless there is no-one else.
Hopefully he joins Villa permanently, he can play every week, have a decent career and we get some money for him, I think he will leave for Everton on a free in the summer though and end up on the bench there. For 10 teams in the league he is probably a decent, solid CM, for the other ten he is either a squad/backup player or someone who shouldn’t even be used unless there is no-one else.
Hope he goes to Everton in the summer, I think a new lease of life under Martinez could be just what he needs.
Hope we sell him in january, so we get some money for him.
He's not coming back - at the moment Herrera is not even getting a game so we have no need for him at all.
He is one of Villa's best players. Not sure whether that is a compliment though.
Not happening and I struggle to see why anyone would welcome it. He failed here despite numerous opportunities.
No team thats expecting to challenge for EPL and CL trophies has room for a Cleverley even as a squad player. He's so average I'm nodding off as I think of him....
If we need a squad player and an academy graduate who know how to defend, let's play Ben Pearson.I'm sorry to see it happened but Cleverley is done at this club.
He's not good enough for Everton.
Spot on, why bring him back to sit in the stands every week and get in the way of other promising players coming through, it's still hard to believe anyone would think he could or should come back based on his performances for us or Villa. Good luck to him but pleased he won't play for the club again as he just isn't good enough.
One thing about him that really annoys me, he screams for the ball, demanding for a pass. Then when he gets it, he just gives it back to the player who passed to him. I mean, what's the point of shouting for the ball when you don't do anything with it?!
He doesnt seem to stand out for Villa - the term "found his level" seems to be very apt.
Shame given he seemed to have such potential a few years ago, but thats football.
Shame given he seemed to have such potential a few years ago, but thats football.
I'm glad he is not at United anymore and surely van Gaal will not want him back from loan. He is just a fitter and slimmer Anderson with less skill. I hope his career improves but he is what I have always thought since he broke into the first team set up, very average.
Was thinking the same, don't see how he'd get into their team atm.
He never really had what it takes to make it at this level. Even by general PL standards he an ordinary player.
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