Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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Earlier there were a lot of posters who didn't fully get the issues with just selling off our squad players with higher than deserved wages. Here we have the entire issue arising, even if United accepts a bid it is up to the player to accept half the salary all of a sudden and playing for a worse club.

That's not true at all.

He's on about 30k here which isn't a lot and according to papers such as the Telegraph he's asking for 60k when transferred. According to one source linked in this thread he asked for an absurd 80k.

This isn't at all a situation in which he's being asked to half his wages. No idea where you have got that from.
 
That's not true at all.

He's on about 30k here which isn't a lot and according to papers such as the Telegraph he's asking for 60k when transferred. According to one source linked in this thread he asked for an absurd 80k.

This isn't at all a situation in which he's being asked to half his wages. No idea where you have got that from.

I thought he was on more than 30k actually. Still United's wage structure that makes him consider himself worthy of 80k rather than something less. If Valencia/Young/Shaw are getting those figures I see why he'd overrate his values.
 
He can't even get a transfer right!!! I wouldn't even send him to Everton on loan, f'in cheap cnuts.
 
If he bollocks this up he should never wear the United shirt again, tell him to go home and wait for his cheque in the mail.
 
he's probably not in a rush to leave the biggest club in the country, one he's had passion for a long time.

It can be a slippery slope downwards when you leave, so not surprised he's after a huge contract to leave.
Leave it until the end of the season and he can look forward to much bigger Bosman wages.
 
If Everton want him on a loan and get him on a free next season then I hope we reject it and keep him as the backup to our backup..
 
The reality is we've signed a bunch of players we're looking to play CM.

Ander, Di Maria, Blind

And we're not in the champions league or league cup, so there wont be games to go around for people like Cleverley

If he stays its to get a handful of games this season
 
OK, I've always stood up for Tom, but he's starting to piss me off now. I know it's not his fault, but Nani, Shinji, Hernandez and Danny all going while Cleverley, Anderson, Young and Valencia all stay makes me feel a bit sick.
 
The reality is we've signed a bunch of players we're looking to play CM.

Ander, Di Maria, Blind

And we're not in the champions league or league cup, so there wont be games to go around for people like Cleverley

If he stays its to get a handful of games this season
If the reports are right he wanted 80k from Villa I hope he gets NO games.
 
If he stays its to get a handful of games this season

I don't think he'll kick a ball for the first team, unless he signs a new one year contract with the intention of leaving in the summer. There's no way we'll play him whilst letting him run his contract down.
 
Seriously, he's going to rot in our reserves and be a lesson to youngsters that think with their wallet.

It's probably in the back of his mind that he's got games at United recently and he'll probably get them in the future if he ends up staying. I can't see us having such an injury crisis again.

Herrera, Di Maria, Blind, Carrick, Fletcher and probably even Anderson still ahead of him. Time to grow up and grow a pair.
 
Cleverley wants a loan move due to being on the last year of his contract. He'll command a good signing on fee and salary if he pulls off a loan signing and proves is worth at Everton.
 
Seriously, he's going to rot in our reserves and be a lesson to youngsters that think with their wallet.

It's probably in the back of his mind that he's got games at United recently and he'll probably get them in the future if he ends up staying. I can't see us having such an injury crisis again.

Herrera, Di Maria, Blind, Carrick, Fletcher and probably even Anderson still ahead of him. Time to grow up and grow a pair.

With the midfielder's we've got in the reserves he'll struggle to get games.

Really disappointing stuff from him
 
His staying... Out of everyone gone. Him and Anderson should have been the first out.
 
I thought he was on more than 30k actually. Still United's wage structure that makes him consider himself worthy of 80k rather than something less. If Valencia/Young/Shaw are getting those figures I see why he'd overrate his values.

That's where he and his team have got it wrong. Apparently that's a lot more than Ron Vlaar is on at Villa and he's an established World Cup level player. So you can see what Villa were thinking.
 
His staying... Out of everyone gone. Him and Anderson should have been the first out.

Don't forget Fellaini. And our chuckle brothers Valencia and Young. How they managed to stay, I'd never know.
 
OK, I've always stood up for Tom, but he's starting to piss me off now. I know it's not his fault, but Nani, Shinji, Hernandez and Danny all going while Cleverley, Anderson, Young and Valencia all stay makes me feel a bit sick.
Bang on! Anderson is making me feel violently angry with his presence and so i'd like to take it out on Toms whiney face! Seriously though, Kagawa and Danny leaving and those four remaining is insane!
 
That's where he and his team have got it wrong. Apparently that's a lot more than Ron Vlaar is on at Villa and he's an established World Cup level player. So you can see what Villa were thinking.

No doubt Villa are in the right. We seem to have abandoned the idea of a wage structure at all and Bayern deserves so much respect after our debacle this summer.
 
The important thing is, we got Blind in and have Carrick coming back. Cleverly won't get a look in either way.
 
No doubt Villa are in the right. We seem to have abandoned the idea of a wage structure at all and Bayern deserves so much respect after our debacle this summer.

This is what makes the lack of investment over the last Fergie years all the more baffling. 'No value in the market' yet the massive wages we're overpaying to players who have never justified it is pretty staggering.
 
Don't forget Fellaini. And our chuckle brothers Valencia and Young. How they managed to stay, I'd never know.
Crazy how Shinji, Chico and Welbeck have left but the deadwood have managed to survive.
 


Don't get the club's stance. Why keep Clev on the wage bill when he's likely to leave on a free next summer? May as well have Everton pick up the tab for the next year, rather than pay him not to play for us and lose him on a free anyway.
 
No doubt Villa are in the right. We seem to have abandoned the idea of a wage structure at all and Bayern deserves so much respect after our debacle this summer.

No one was saying Villa weren't in the right to be clear - the issue is Cleverley and his absolute focus on getting as much money as possible.

He's so preoccupied with getting a high wage and signing on fee that he's prepared to piss away a season at United without first team football and run his contract down.
 
Don't get the club's stance. Why keep Clev on the wage bill when he's likely to leave on a free next summer? May as well have Everton pick up the tab for the next year, rather than pay him not to play for us and lose him on a free anyway.

Eh?

We want a fee for him. Simple really.
 
Don't get the club's stance. Why keep Clev on the wage bill when he's likely to leave on a free next summer? May as well have Everton pick up the tab for the next year, rather than pay him not to play for us and lose him on a free anyway.
They probably wanted us to pay half his wages or something. Anyway we might need him now.
 
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