Today's Grand Prix

for me the extra stops would be the most sensible and looking busy i was refering to racing for fun in the future not about the current race,i wouldn't want any deaths or accidents and keane 16,although it is solely michelin's fault but the normal man will think it is ferrari's so hence teams indirectly blaming ferrari,in most articles you see ferrari getting a mention for disagreeing with modifying turn 13
 
pjaya said:
Frankly putting a chicane may not be safer as most teams (including the Bridgestone) will have an additional concern on brakes.

and i quote Rubeno comment again
"I mean, if I had changed one of the corners in Bahrain, my tire would have finished, it wouldn't be in such a problem and I probably would have finished even on the podium. So why would we have to agree to that? People think, okay, you put in a chicane, but we haven't tested with that chicane so that could have been even more dangerous. If you take a different line and people spin to the other side, crash into the side wall, how can we do it? It's silly."

That's a little different than having to pull out 7 teams because the tire would have given up after 10 laps.
 
Looking Busy said:
The FIA needed to take a more common sense approach, if it had been any other team but Ferrari that objected to the Chicane they probably would have done it.
The suggestion of putting the chicane in but the michelin team race for no points would have been the most sensible solution. BAR said they would have accepted that and the spectators would have got a race. Without fans attending the races the sport will fold overnight. How many sponsors would hang around in a sport that is watched by no-one.

It should never have got to the stage it did yesterday, and I'm referring more to a gradual erosion of all racing principles over a long time rather than just the duration of the weekend just gone. The above course of action was a non-starter in anyones book. You say that without fans the sport would fold, and thats dead right, which leads me to ask why practically every change in the rules over the last decade or so, has been detrimental to the positive advancement of that philosophy. The hierarchy need to have a long hard look at themselves (actually they've been around far too long as it is) and ask who's responsible for the mess the sport is in.....and it's not Michelin, they may have well been the straw that broke the camel's back, but blaming them is shortsighted IMO....if blame is your game.

Give them a control tyre (a very fashionable view today), let them change the tyres as much as they want, have them fill the cars with fuel with no allowable refuelling and let them shag off and race each other around the circuit for as long as they want.
 
Reflectorboy said:
for me the extra stops would be the most sensible and looking busy i was refering to racing for fun in the future not about the current race,i wouldn't want any deaths or accidents and keane 16,although it is solely michelin's fault but the normal man will think it is ferrari's so hence teams indirectly blaming ferrari,in most articles you see ferrari getting a mention for disagreeing with modifying turn 13

Ferrari are not to blame for yesterday, Michelin are not to blame for the prolonged malaise we have been witnessing. Bottom line, the FIA sanction the Championship, the health of it falls on their shoulders.
 
The bottom line is Michelin turned up for the race weekend with a tire that wasn't appropiate for the job. As one of the F1's approved tire suppliers they are contractually bound to fulfill their commitment. They failed, they are to blame.
The FIA set the rules at the start of each season, Michelin must have known that there could be a problem with Indy, you can't tell me that a company that supplies 70% of the F1 teams with their tires that they don't know the different demands for each circuit. This championship has been the best for years and that has been ruined by their mistake.
 
miley_bob said:
:lol: unlucky. Wat were the fans around you like? Bet your absoultely pissed off. How many cnuts were throwing stuff on the track.

Almost everyone around me was seriously pissed. I didn't see anyone throwing stuff onto the track but there were a few chants for for "refunds" and something else I couldnt make out. Lot's of jeering though at the podium after the race.

It was very disappointing because the decibel level on the warm up lap when the 20 cars went by the front straight was something I probably will never forget. What a shame it was only for one lap.

One positive was that I witnessed Narain getting the first points ever for an Indian driver in an F1 race. Have to say though that those might be all he gets ever ...