Toby Alderweireld

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Jose has confirmed no signings at the press conference. It's all over. Woodward has fecked him over.
 
cyberman said:
Nobody will offer the wages to a CB that we do.
I don't know if that's a good thing!
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PSG and Bayern might need a new CB. He probably won't start there, unlike here when he would be the leader of the defense. Bayern probably also won't offer the same wages as us.

Don't see other big clubs being interested on him.
 
I'm still convinced we'll sign him before the deadline late tonight. Most likely pay over the odds too - The United Way!
 
Sandikan said:
You can't have a binding agreement a year ahead
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City had agreement with Sanchez for months
I think we already have an agreement with Toby and I can even see us re negotiating in the winter window
 
Trizy said:
I'm still convinced we'll sign him before the deadline late tonight. Most likely pay over the odds too - The United Way!
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By 'late tonight' I'm guessing you mean at around 4pm because the window shuts at 5pm!

I'm becoming pessimistic now, I think we're a bit more likely to sign Maguire than Toby (which I'd also love), but no signings looks like the most likely scenario.
 
GDaly95 said:
By 'late tonight' I'm guessing you mean at around 4pm because the window shuts at 5pm!

I'm becoming pessimistic now, I think we're a bit more likely to sign Maguire than Toby (which I'd also love), but no signings looks like the most likely scenario.
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Jose just said at the pre-match conference.....no signings. We aint signing anyone.
 
GDaly95 said:
By 'late tonight' I'm guessing you mean at around 4pm because the window shuts at 5pm!

I'm becoming pessimistic now, I think we're a bit more likely to sign Maguire than Toby (which I'd also love), but no signings looks like the most likely scenario.
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Shit, didn't think it was that early.

At least the positive is we'll be put out of our misery early.
 
WPMUFC said:
Jose just said at the pre-match conference.....no signings. We aint signing anyone.
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He was always going to say something to that effect, and he didn't even say it conclusively. It'd be ridiculous for him to say anything else, there is nothing to gain and a lot to lose from saying we expect a signing by the deadline.

Nevertheless, it looks likely to be over.
 
GDaly95 said:
Because saying 'the information I have' allows him to remove himself from the statement completely. 'There won't be anymore signings' would've been conclusive.
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Still pretty conclusive as it stands.
 
So can we get Alderweireld in January for £25m or do we have to wait until the summer?
 
Levy is playing poker, he wants rid as much as we want him, would be criminal to turn down 40m only for him to walk next season.
 
You either do business with Uncle Scrooge at the last minute or don't at all. That's the perils of negotiating for a Spurs player.
 
Said all along no Martial, No Toby.

Toby will be sold abroad before the end of the month and he will get the money he wants and he will accept as he won't want to spend one of his last 3 years at the top of his game on the bench.

No way back for him at Tottenham now as explained before
 
Nick. said:
So can we get Alderweireld in January for £25m or do we have to wait until the summer?
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You have to wait.

Cathy Ferguson said:
Levy will be stuck with an unhappy player who can leave for 25m next summer. Why not accept 40-45m now? Spurs have plenty of CBs.
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How come United being stuck with an unhappy player seems not be an issue?
 
Nick. said:
So can we get Alderweireld in January for £25m or do we have to wait until the summer?
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Would have to wait until the summer, and as I believe it the last 2 weeks of that window. He would be available for free next summer but Spurs will trigger the year extension which also activates that clause.
 
I'd be surprised if we don't sell him to you today but I think the issue is, we really really want Martial and United are simply refusing to sell to us and because of that, we are refusing to sell you Toby. Levy is playing the game to see how desperate you really are, and if that desperation to get that CB will finally see you agree to sell us Martial as the hours tick down.

Levy knows Mourinho really want Toby and I think is happy to see Martial go the other way but your board don't want to sell Martial to us. Something has to give.

Personally I'd be very very upset if we sold Toby and didn't get Martial, not because of Toby going, but because we didn't get Martial. He's the one signing I really wanted this summer. Also because it would mean United ultimately got one over on us.
 
Primativ said:
I'd be surprised if we don't sell him to you today but I think the issue is, we really really want Martial and United are simply refusing to sell to us and because of that, we are refusing to sell you Toby. Levy is playing the game to see how desperate you really are, and if that desperation to get that CB will finally see you agree to sell us Martial as the hours tick down.

Levy knows Mourinho really want Toby and I think is happy to see Martial go the other way but your board don't want to sell Martial to us. Something has to give.

Personally I'd be very very upset if we sold Toby and didn't get Martial, not because of Toby going, but because we didn't get Martial. He's the one signing I really wanted this summer. Also because it would mean United ultimately got one over on us.
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Maybe the decision to wait until January window for Toby? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I've read somewhere that his release clause can be triggered in the January window.
 
I don't understand this, Utd do not want to sell Martial to anybody.
Why do the press and Spurs fans act as if he's for sale but we're just being stubborn?
Spurs wouldn't look near us if Tobys clause wasn't in play yet we're supposed to offer a player that isn't for sale because Spurs are in a shit position?
They're not trading cards.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Martial's transfer value will not go off a cliff during the season. Toby's will.
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is Martial contract not up at the end of the season ? or do we have a year option as well, thing is if we don't get Toby this summer I don't think we will go back for him next year even at the reduced price.
 
cyberman said:
I don't understand this, Utd do not want to sell Martial to anybody.
Why do the press and Spurs fans act as if he's for sale but we're just being stubborn?
Spurs wouldn't look near us if Tobys clause wasn't in play yet we're supposed to offer a player that isn't for sale because Spurs are in a shit position?
They're not trading cards.
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Probably because our manager said anyone who wants to leave can leave?
 
Twam said:
Levy is playing poker, he wants rid as much as we want him, would be criminal to turn down 40m only for him to walk next season.
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Its the bigger game though- if we accept it now and in the future you (or another club) want one of our players and wait it out we will accept a lower fee. The players know they wont have to see their contract out etc.

Yes we lose the £15M but if it stops the same thing in the future its worthwhile (he cant walk next season for free) - I would be looking internally for blame as we told you the price and have not moved, your lot should have found another option or just paid up.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Martial's transfer value will not go off a cliff during the season. Toby's will.
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We are still guaranteed £25M we bought him for a whole lot less. Plus that wasn’t the point you were making about an unhappy player.

cyberman said:
I don't understand this, Utd do not want to sell Martial to anybody.
Why do the press and Spurs fans act as if he's for sale but we're just being stubborn?
Spurs wouldn't look near us if Tobys clause wasn't in play yet we're supposed to offer a player that isn't for sale because Spurs are in a shit position?
They're not trading cards.
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I don’t get your point, if you won’t sell a player to us, who wants out, why should we to you?
 
Ekeke said:
Probably because our manager said anyone who wants to leave can leave?
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If thats what they're hanging their hat on then more fool them.
Did he even say that publicly or is that from The Sun?
 
Sanche7 said:
City had agreement with Sanchez for months
I think we already have an agreement with Toby and I can even see us re negotiating in the winter window
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Yeah great example mate...sanchez.
Where did he end up?
 
InLevyITrust said:
We are still guaranteed £25M we bought him for a whole lot less. Plus that wasn’t the point you were making about an unhappy player.



I don’t get your point, if you won’t sell a player to us, who wants out, why should we to you?
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Because Toby is on the market, Martial isn't.
 
Primativ said:
I'd be surprised if we don't sell him to you today but I think the issue is, we really really want Martial and United are simply refusing to sell to us and because of that, we are refusing to sell you Toby. Levy is playing the game to see how desperate you really are, and if that desperation to get that CB will finally see you agree to sell us Martial as the hours tick down.

Levy knows Mourinho really want Toby and I think is happy to see Martial go the other way but your board don't want to sell Martial to us. Something has to give.

Personally I'd be very very upset if we sold Toby and didn't get Martial, not because of Toby going, but because we didn't get Martial. He's the one signing I really wanted this summer. Also because it would mean United ultimately got one over on us.
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Is the plan to play Martial where Delle ali plays?
 
Happy we're not bending over backwards for Levy. A new CB should never have been our priority position any way so not too fussed about not getting him.
 
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