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After 14 long hours, we finally arrived in Europe. We touched down in Glasgow, and, unfortunately, the rest of tour was a blur. I had extreme ear pain for the first few hours following the flight, and I figured my body was having a hard time adjusting to being in the air that long. Needless to say, I wasn't in the best mood. All I wanted was to get my bags, get to my room, and go to sleep. It was finally time to get off the plane. I was retrieving my bag from the overhead storage compartment when one of the boys, a guy who had been with the company for nearly two decades and was cool with everyone, approached me. He leaned in close and asked me to do him a "favor." He never made eye contact with me. He just stared straight ahead. In a very low, suspicious tone, he said, "JTG, I need you to hold this for me." I looked down, and there in his hand he held what appeared to be about an eighth of weed. I thought to myself, Of all the guys on the roster, why me?! How the hell do I get out of this? I tried telling him I wasn't comfortable and was unfamiliar with the procedure. He ignored me, and instead instructed me to stuff the package inside my underwear, under my nuts. Now, why anyone would want to smoke weed that had been under someone's nuts after a 14-hour flight is beyond me, but, I digress. At this point two other wrestlers began to chime in, applying more pressure to the situation. "Come on Jay. This is your chance to get over with the boys." "You can hit it with us later." "Come on! Don't be that guy!" I always thought peer pressure was a just myth. But it's real, people. Hella real! Then out of nowhere, like some sort of super hero, one of the veterans, a real English gentleman, swooped in and saved the day. As soon as he saw me in distress, he swiftly came to my rescue. "Leave the young man alone. You guys brought your own stuff in so you need to figure it out yourselves. This is his first tour and you're already trying to get him into trouble. Leave him out of it." And just like that, they backed off. He then pulled me aside and said, "I know you were in a tough position. Those guys were not looking out for your best interest. I hate to see young talent such as yourself being taken advantage of. I couldn't just stand there and say nothing. You'll be out of a job and under the jail, and they'll continue wrestling, acting like nothing ever happened." I knew he was 100% right.


Before I became a WWE Superstar, I made a promise to myself. I said to myself, "Self, no matter what happens in my career as a professional wrestler, don't ever, ever, ever ever become a jobber." Jobbers just magically show up in the ring after a commercial break and get their asses handed to them. My plan if this was ever to happen to me was to leave the company, plain and simple. I planned to leave, go somewhere else,, make a name for myself, and comeback. JTG was too talented and charismatic to be an enhancement talent. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind losing, and I don't mind making another superstar look good when it's their time to shine. That is business. But when it becomes my sole purpose in life to lose, then it's a problem. If you followed my career, you're probably asking why I didn't leave then? The answer is simple: life happened. I had a family. I had a baby on the way, and I could not make that sacrifice at the time.

The first time I sensed myself going down Jobber Ave, I spoke up immediately. In doing so, I believe I pissed off the wrong people. It was during a Smackdown taping that I found out early I was working one of the company's up-and-coming rising stars. I knew I was losing, but I was excited to work with this individual. I had a lot of respect for what he did in the ring, and I was looking forward to making him look good. When your putting someone over strong in a match, there is percentage formula agents like to use to structure things. In this particular match, I was told to split it thirty percent in my favor, and seventy percent in his. The point of this particular match was to build his character and strengthen his current storyline. Now here is the issue. We had all day to plan out a match in which we both came out looking like stars, and we also furthered his character's development. But when it came time to put the match together, my opponent avoided me all day. When I did catch up with him (which was several times through out the day) he brushed me off and said, "Just listen to me out there." That was a red flag. As we got closer and closer to our match, I still had no idea what we were doing. We had a couple of minutes of TV time, so I definitely wanted to talk it over.

Before I knew it the match before us was coming to a close and I still knew nothing. I had enough and I went looking for him. When I found him I said "what are you going to do to make me look good before you cut me off and beat me?" His reply was, "This match is all me. You're not getting any offense. Just try to fight back if you can." I looked at him like he was crazy and said, "I'm going to make you look good but there is no way I'm going out there and just letting you beat me up for five minutes." He said, "That's what Vince wants." I looked at him like he was full of shit. "Vince wants you to squash me?" "If you don't believe me, ask him." So I did. I marched up to Gorilla Position, where Vince sits and watches the entire show, and asked him out loud so my opponent could hear me. "Vince, is this a squash match? Am I suppose to just go out there and get beat up for the entire match and lose? That's what he said," and I pointed at my opponent. Vince looked at me, baffled, and took his head set off. He said "No, this is not a squash match." He looked at my opponent and told him, "Give him a shine spot, cut him off, and hit your finisher." My opponent looked pissed. He rolled his eyes and said, "Alright, whatever." I'm not calling my opponent a liar. But if he was telling the truth, I made Vince change his mind quick because I wasn't having it! When the bell rang, we pretty much had a shitty match. The lack of communication that it takes to have a good match was very noticeable to the trained eye. Both of us did a great job not selling each others punches and kicks. He didn't care to do good business, and so I didn't care to make him look good. When I took his finish, I didn't sell it like I would have sold it. I just kinda reacted to it. I guess he didn't like that. So, out of nowhere, and with no warning, he puts on his second finisher, a submission move. I think to myself, Woooooord! This mothafucka tryin' to play me, huh? Okay, let’s play. In order for him to win I had to tap out. Guess what I did? I stayed in that submission hold nice and long, until it was really uncomfortable and awkward. He literally yelled at me out loud twice to tap out. It was so awkward WWE had to edit it and switch the camera shots around to shave of a few seconds.

When we got to the back, all hell broke loose. My opponent decided to yell at me in front of the rest of the boys, and I gave in. We had a huge shouting match in front of everyone. I'll take some responsibility and say I was wrong for feeding into the shouting match. In retrospect, what I should have done was say, "You're upset? Let's go deal with this somewhere else, privately, like men. Take that however you want to take it." Anyhow, he wound up apologizing to me because the whole situation was handled unprofessionally. We shook hands and killed whatever tension we had. To this day, he and I are civil. We are not the best of friends, but we are cool, so to speak, but we do have mutual respect for each other. Looking back on that night, I might have earned some respect from my peers for standing up for myself. But I definitely got some heat from the agents, supervisors, and office who now viewed me as difficult to work with.


the match in question in the final story
 
I cant believe the Damien Sandow gimmick at the moment, it's so bad I feel embarrassed watching it.
 
Thanks for those @gormless

Im still trying to figure out who the wrestler is that lost his "side chick" to JTG.
 
If they had 6 they could have Cesaro/Kidd v Harper/Rowan v Lucha Dragons vs New Day vs Kidd/Cesaro vs PTP or Ascension or Primo/Epico (Or whatever they're calling themselves now). It could either be a clusterfeck or an absolute belter.

The tag matches especially multiple team ones recently have been fantastic. Having Cesaro/Kidd vs Kidd/Cesaro would be quite something :P
 
The tag matches especially multiple team ones recently have been fantastic. Having Cesaro/Kidd vs Kidd/Cesaro would be quite something :P
That's how much they need to be in the match.
 
Thanks for posting the extracts from the book! Interesting to read.
 
Spoiler regarding (maybe) winner of the IC title

Sheamus Being Advertised as IC Champ
For what it’s worth, The Quicken Loans Center website is advertising Sheamus as the WWE Intercontinental Champion for the June 15th WWE live event.

It'll be him or Ziggler, who else can it be? After the new and horrible hair do, he's getting a serious push. So yeah, Sheamus.
 
First of all what the actual feck are they doing with Sandow?

Second of all did you guys know that we have 2 PPVs this month? Payback on sunday and the elimination chamber as a wwe network exclusive on May 31st?

And thirdly, ROH Vs New Japan is also this month which should be amazing. @phelans shorts anyway that we can watch this, you're the man in the know when it comes to NJPW.

EDIT: just read through the thread and see the chamber is already being discussed, it must have been announced on a bit of raw that i fast forwarded.
 
They should put the IC title on Roman Reigns if they want it to be serious again. Put it on Ziggler or Sheamus and it just becomes forgotten again
 
First of all what the actual feck are they doing with Sandow?

Second of all did you guys know that we have 2 PPVs this month? Payback on sunday and the elimination chamber as a wwe network exclusive on May 31st?

And thirdly, ROH Vs New Japan is also this month which should be amazing. @phelans shorts anyway that we can watch this, you're the man in the know when it comes to NJPW.

EDIT: just read through the thread and see the chamber is already being discussed, it must have been announced on a bit of raw that i fast forwarded.

These shows have really good cards and I believe the two so far have been good (especially considering how many guys are desperate to avoid injury with Best of the Super Juniors and moreso the G1 coming in the next month or two, including a few ROH guys who are being taken on for the tour I hear). They (some shows at least, I don't know any details) are supposedly going online via ROH but ROH are historically bad at this stuff, so it will probably be a few weeks until they are actually available, just about when everyone has lost interest going off last time.
 
These shows have really good cards and I believe the two so far have been good (especially considering how many guys are desperate to avoid injury with Best of the Super Juniors and moreso the G1 coming in the next month or two, including a few ROH guys who are being taken on for the tour I hear). They (some shows at least, I don't know any details) are supposedly going online via ROH but ROH are historically bad at this stuff, so it will probably be a few weeks until they are actually available, just about when everyone has lost interest going off last time.
Jeez just went on the ROH site to check it out, it really is a mess, I just remembered why i download ROH episodes.
 
They should put the IC title on Roman Reigns if they want it to be serious again. Put it on Ziggler or Sheamus and it just becomes forgotten again

Not a bad shout. It would be nice to see him build up as IC champ, have some good matches with guys who can go, whilst still being around the main event. Then possibly having IC champ vs World Champ.
 
Too late. He needs to be in the title mix now. Him, Ambrose and Orton vs Authority will be :drool:

Yeah, but that can play part of the bigger story. He doesnt win at Payback, (or gets pinned), Authority come out on Raw and say Rollins had two shots and blew it and will not get another chance again until he proves himself. He does it by winning IC title, and they put challengers against him to stop him from being able to go for the title. It can be done where hes IC champ (defending not just holding it like Sheamus and Ambrose held the US title lol).
Doubt it will be though.
 
They should put the IC title on Roman Reigns if they want it to be serious again. Put it on Ziggler or Sheamus and it just becomes forgotten again

Don't mind that idea. He should have been in this mid-card spot before going straight to the main event anyway.
 
Yeah, but that can play part of the bigger story. He doesnt win at Payback, (or gets pinned), Authority come out on Raw and say Rollins had two shots and blew it and will not get another chance again until he proves himself. He does it by winning IC title, and they put challengers against him to stop him from being able to go for the title. It can be done where hes IC champ (defending not just holding it like Sheamus and Ambrose held the US title lol).
Doubt it will be though.

Interesting storyline. Definitely has potential.

Personally, I still like the Shield storyline Reign/Ambrose vs Rollins. Will they get some payback for Rollins backstabbing? Don't like Orton in the mix though.

Tbh, the more I think of it, I think they should give the IC to Orton. Which coming wrestler can kill the legend killer? Would rejuvenate the belt far more than Reigns imo.
 
Yeah. We need a replacement for Bryan. Who's a popular star that needs to be out of title picture? Only Orton remains.

It would be quite something if they did that, both held the titles for a long time, and then united it in a ladder match. Given they both did it for the world title, I think it would be interesting.

Thing is, WWE have got some good things going. Im enjoying the tagteam scene right now. The US title has been getting good coverage (though Cena vs Rusev needs to be done as you know nobody will win the open challenge whilst they are still advertising Cena vs Rusev for the US title at the PPV).
The womens scene is getting more coverage than before, add Paige into the mix and then hopefully Charlotte soon.
The midcard with Ziggler/Wade/Neville/Sheamus has been good, add in the IC title not too bad.
World title scene has been fresh with the addition of Ambrose to it which made the most sense (I think the show in Montreal gave it more focus, hope we get more shows like that).
 
Still can't get my head around how they plan to make rather than lose money on this network thing in the long term.

They made more money in the past by just having a more appealing product...in that it dragged the teenagey kids in, in their droves. Even then though I can't get my head around it being sustainable unless they're not planning to pull anything from the television networks...and if that's the case what's really the point?

The only thing I can really compare it to in terms of a model that works, is if they ran it similar to something like MUTV, where it was just a side revenue run at almost no cost, rather than something they pour loads of resource into and end up being dependent on.

Phelan will no doubt come in here and inform me why I'm wrong but the numbers just don't add up very well to me.
 
Does the Network cost that much to run though? They own and produce everything on it while 99% of the content is all the classic stuff that requires no effort in maintaining.
 
Still can't get my head around how they plan to make rather than lose money on this network thing in the long term.

They made more money in the past by just having a more appealing product...in that it dragged the teenagey kids in, in their droves. Even then though I can't get my head around it being sustainable unless they're not planning to pull anything from the television networks...and if that's the case what's really the point?

The only thing I can really compare it to in terms of a model that works, is if they ran it similar to something like MUTV, where it was just a side revenue run at almost no cost, rather than something they pour loads of resource into and end up being dependent on.

Phelan will no doubt come in here and inform me why I'm wrong but the numbers just don't add up very well to me.
Tbh, NXT and PPVs make it a fecking bargain for anyone with an interest. The long term goal should be marketing NXT basically. The library is great, but you can binge and drop the network after a month.
 
Does the Network cost that much to run though? They own and produce everything on it while 99% of the content is all the classic stuff that requires no effort in maintaining.

Basically yeah, they had a tonne of one off costs last year but now it costs next to nothing. If anything they aren't putting enough into it to make some more of the fantastic specials they've done.

Anyway, this weeks Lucha Underground was so so fecking good. Dario Cueto is the best evil boss since 90's Vince McMahon. He managed to steal the show in what was a decent main event, despite being on the screen for no time at all.
 
Basically yeah, they had a tonne of one off costs last year but now it costs next to nothing. If anything they aren't putting enough into it to make some more of the fantastic specials they've done.

Anyway, this weeks Lucha Underground was so so fecking good. Dario Cueto is the best evil boss since 90's Vince McMahon. He managed to steal the show in what was a decent main event, despite being on the screen for no time at all.
I want to get back into LU, stopped watching along the way somewhere. Where do I start?
 
Errr... I'd say the start of the trios tournament, so the April 1st episode, would be the easiest place to start. It's been a pretty consistently great run so the 4/5 hours should be pretty easy to get through.
Lovely stuff.
 
Not a clue pal, not looked into it yet but I have been told to go out of my way to watch it.
I have just discovered that a well known wrestling torrent site is available for registrations, which i think is disgusting, i have obviously reported the fact that it is on there already, disgusting.
 
@phelans shorts
After Drago loses to Puma and leaves the temple, did he get blown up or turn into a dragon. Both of these seem plausible from my limited viewing so far.
 
Just watching some old WCW stuff on Sky Sports 3. It's a tag match, Stunning Steve Austin & Rick Rude (with Madusa in their corner) v Barry Windham and Dustin Rhodes. That's 5 hall of famers there.

Austin looks so strange with hair. And compared to wrestling now it's slow as feck.