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Bray Wyatt will win the title IMO.
I can't see it, there's huge talk of whoever winning it being Brock Lesnar's opponent at Summerslam.
I think Cena will win it. In Bryan's absence I think they'll look to someone trusted to act as a transitional champion either until Bryan comes back, or until Lesnar takes it. Cena fits the bill perfectly unfortunately.
I think Cena will win it. In Bryan's absence I think they'll look to someone trusted to act as a transitional champion either until Bryan comes back, or until Lesnar takes it. Cena fits the bill perfectly unfortunately.
Huge talk?
That's first I've heard of it, mainly because it makes no sense at all so they'd never do it.
In what way does Brock wrestling at Summerslam not make sense?
Brock wrestling at Summerslam makes a lot of sense.
Brock wrestling the champion at Summerslam makes not one iota of sense.
I don't see how him doing anything else makes sense. He inserted himself as the number one contender and then defeated the streak.
The title is the only thing that makes sense for him to go after. You wouldn't demand a title shot, beat the Undertaker and then return for meaningless matches with no incentive. I think JR mentioned it a few months ago as well how he expects Brock to take the title and go on a dominant run with it. Justin Labar has mentioned it as well. It's the only thing that makes sense because it's the natural progression from his achievements so far.
Unless there's a feasible reason for why he suddenly doesn't want to be champion anymore when he was demanding a title shot before Mania.
Fake Kane, Fake Undertaker, Fake Diesel, why not Fake Brock?Whoops!
Could be CM Punk in a sumo suit.
JR is stuck in 1972, I wouldn't listen to a word he says. As for Labar, two words, Bleacher Report.
Take yourself out of the storyline for a moment, Brock's contract has limited dates. The champion has to be there most weeks, for that reason Brock working through Summerslam to Wrestlemania is a non-starter. Given the budget cuts WWE are currently going through are they really going to pay Brock the millions he'd request to do almost weekly shows?
Now for the storyline. There's all sorts of ways they can work around it, Brock certainly won't win the title in his next match, it would make no sense. They'd have him destroy someone impressive on the sight of it, like they did with Big Show at Elimination Chamber. Common sense. My guess is it would be Kane, who is due some time off.
Brock should go in to Wrestlemania as the champion who's destroying people left right and centre, but that is not conductive with putting the belt on him at Summerslam.
Dunno what you two are talking about, The Ascension will win every belt going at WM31.
NXT cuts due this month *fingers crossed*
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You know how that thing actually started? Fans trying to entertain themselves during their matches. True story.
That's a bold statement, mind the pun. I only mentioned Labar as he has legit contacts within WWE, is on first name basis with some of the wrestlers and has worked with WWE and attends promotions with the likes of Bret Hart etc. It's more credible than your random blogger, but still obviously a journalist. Paul Scholes now writes for Paddy Power but it doesn't make him less credible, although his choice of partnership is unfortunate.
He may not win the title in his next match, but there's no reason why he can't go for it. There are all sorts of angles they can approach it from. Cesaro wins at MITB, Brock appears unhappy and challenges him at Summerslam, Cesaro successfully defends and gets a huge rub, Brock returns at RR and wins giving Cesaro a nice run, Brock holds it RR to WM and drops it to the RR winner Reigns.
There are a few different scenarios they can go down, but I absolutely believe that the main event of WM31 will be Reigns vs whoever, and at some point Brock is going to be champion. We've already seen with The Rock how the schedule doesn't really matter when push comes to shove in the WWE. If anything it would add legitimate heat to Brock and go hand in hand with the fact that he took the streak.
The alternative is that Brock could take it at Summerslam from whoever wins it at MITB and then drops it to a returning Bryan at N.O.C. There's all kinds of ways you can make his dates work.
I know. Poor....other guy, has no redeeming qualities.
This is pretty good.
Are they any good in the ring?
Brock losing before Mania would completely nullify his win over Taker. He needs to be dominant and unstoppable going in to 31.
Brock won't be there every week no matter, but you need him there more often than not with the belt. Heyman can plug for every other week of a build, but you need Brock there, looking dominant for it to mean something.
Viktor?
He's the better of the two by far, says more about Konor than anything though that.
On the flip side, I don't think a dominant Brock for a month because of his dates is credible or makes sense. For that kind of build up it needs to be done over time.
How about Brock looks like beating Cesaro as champion at Summerslam which makes him look dominant but Reigns interferes and causes a DQ and Cesaro retains, Brock says 'I'm gonna deal with you later you cnut, once I've sorted out Cesaro.' Brock goes away, comes back before the RR where he runs through the locker room, wins the belt at RR and then Reigns wins the RR and comes out on the titantron 'let's finish our business' and it sets up the road to WM.
Okay that's not going to happen, ever. But it would grab my interest. What I don't want is for Brock to turn up a few weeks out. We saw in the build up to the Whyatts vs The Shield how the crowd salivate at the slow build up.
I'm saying start Brock's serious run at TLC, that's four months...
Since you said originally that Brock vs Cesaro at WM, who would you have him face at Summerslam and what reason would make sense for the match?
It would need to be someone not particularly regular, that would be willing to do the job.
Rock is always an option for a role like that if he's willing (would probably be even more willing if it was your Roman Reigns idea mind), Austin said pretty recently on his podcast with Heyman that Brock is the only match that he'd consider, who knows there may even have been contact. Batista should be back by Summerslam as well. The Beast vs The Animal could be an all time classic in the Big Guys Twatting Each Other division. Hell Cena is an option.
Why would any of them come back to be destroyed by lesnar?
One way to book his return is for him to screw someone out of the title at MITB or the briefcase. Have him absolutely destroy the guy and then have a rematch at the next PPV.
Then have him win the title at summerslam and you go on from there.
Rock/ Austin need the money? And didnt batista got annoyed due to WWE not paying him?
And the wwe is cost cutting as well.
I've been through why giving him the belt at Summerslam is a bad idea. Keep up.
Well Batista is under contract, and I'm fairly certain that Rock has one match left on his last deal that he returned on.
As for Austin, he has said that he's interested in having that match, and of course he'd put Brock over.
Give it to him at RR(whenever he can perform full time). I dont follow wrestling that closely so wasnt aware that there is that big a gap between SS and wrestlemania.
If the rock/austin do a match it will be at wrestlemania, not summerslam. And there is a difference between putting brock over and getting destroyed by him which you would need to start a monster heel push. Plus austin would probably get a rematch in that case and get his win back.
Summerslam is the number 2 show, they'd be more than happy to work that.
Neither would want a rematch to "get their win back", why would they?
Going over a legend is akin to destroying an upper mid card guy. They'd probably get little offence in on Brock anyway.
Austin because he is very careful about his reputation and I doubt he would like this to be known as his last match. He refused to put brock over ten years ago if i remember correctly.
The rock lost last time as well to cena and I doubt he would be happy with two losses in a row.
When was the last time they bought a star like those two back for just one match and used it on SS?
Well when was the last time they brought anyone back for a one off? They rarely do.
Wrestlers go out on their back, it's what you do. The Austin Brock thing was to do with having it on a Raw rather than headlining a PPV.
Exactly.
Austin is already out and he has paid his dues. If he does come back ever, you can bet it wont just be for a straight up loss.
Why wouldn't he?
He's out, and he's openly said the only match that interests him would be Brock. What's he got to gain by beating Brock? As you say, he's out, so what good would it do for him to win?
He's not the egomaniac you're making him out to be.
I thought Austin wanted to wrestle Punk.
Austin said he only wanted Brock, on a podcast *with* Heyman. Wouldn't take it as gospel.
I'd imagine there are a few he'd consider, under some very specific stipulations and situations. It'd have to be extremely tempting.
I'd imagine there are a few he'd consider, under some very specific stipulations and situations. It'd have to be extremely tempting.
I like it. Not too sold on Rollins's.
Bray Wyatt is so amazing on the mic it's unreal.
I still think that the best talker in business is HHH. No one comes close to him on the mic. Also, has he ever botched a line?
Punk was excellent. The Rock was gold, as was Y2J.
I still think that the best talker in business is HHH. No one comes close to him on the mic. Also, has he ever botched a line?
Punk was excellent. The Rock was gold, as was Y2J.
Yeah Triple H is so underrated in many aspects.
I want a cape like Barrett's. I'd wear it everyday.
Not sure he's majorly underrated, but he is hate by many for no apparent reason. Good wrestler, excellent talker, clearly loves the business. Has had countless great matches, could name a daft amount of his matches I like especially 2000-2001.
I think Triple H is great. Even that "reign of terror" that everyone moans about in 2003/2004 I enjoyed, because I'm a big fan of heels holding the title for ages. It makes the face taking it off them a better moment when it eventually happens.
I believe he's played a huge part in NXT being so good at the moment.
I believe he's played a huge part in NXT being so good at the moment.